Klonopin Or Valium?

[Art_vandelay]

If you had to chose for social anxiety and over all euphoria.

 

[Smoka90]

They will both affect people differently. In my experience, I've preferred val. As far as equivalency goes, it is more effective (10mg will affect me more than 0.5mg of clonaz. Val doesn't last as long, though, and is a bit more sedating, for me.

Clonaz also makes me feel quite depressed, don't like that.

But, like I said, everyone's different.

 

[Chris1]

Anyone try Peru Valium? 10 mg. how was it?? Thanks.

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[Def_Starr]

i prefer klonopin over X@nz, now i been fighting  a 8yr addiction to x@nz , and now i can take 2mg klonopin and not go through withdrawals, and because its long action sometimes i feel the 2mg klonopin sometimes the next day going into the evening before i feel some discomfort and at which i can either take a small dose of klonopin or .5mg of x@nz, but before klonopin i had a bad problem with X@nz because of the short half life, and that caused me to be addicted in my early years before i started to take control of my x@nz intake
 

now i do 20days on 2mg klonopin, 20days off,substitute with 1mg -2mg xanax for 20days on than off, repeat , i the x@nz addiction is the worst! 

 

[Experiment_626]

i know read read read but i have im looking for 500 kpins any these sources sell bulk?

 

[bunnies]

i know read read read but i have im looking for 500 kpins any these sources sell bulk?

risky. very risky. personally, i wouldn't trust a vendor that would provide that much medication in one go.

 

[Experiment_626]

used to get more then that at atime 3 yrs ago. just now getting back into the scene, and aint getting no where fast. it's cool time. everything takes time.

 

[Phrenicz]

Hey Onzo!

Count yourself lucky that you don't have any tolerance!.. Building up a tolerance is the last thing you should be worried about... That road will just lead to big problems... You will need more and more just to get the effect that even your quarter pill is getting you at the minute.. Before you know it, you will be nailing 50 - 100 mg and it won't even help you sleep?!.. 

My advice (for what it's worth)... Stay at 1/4 of a pill... And even then use it sparingly... Especially if you aren't using it for it's anxiolytic effect?.. As before you know it, you'll have a rabid dog of a dependence, which you take wherever you go, every minute of every day!.  

Tolerance isn't a thing you should be aiming for.. It's something you should be trying to avoid like the plague!!

~P~

 

[Suzie]

Onzo, I take 1/4 of a pill also and to make sure I don't build up a tolerance I only take it a couple times a month.  I received it as a gift also years ago and I still have some left.  I have low tolerance to everything including stims so sometimes I need help to sleep and a couple of times something in life got me really upset and it was a god send to take it and have it calm me down.  I never look for euphoria from these but it's great to have a stash for when you need it.

 

[bunnies]

i wish either of these medications gave me "euphoria" but really all they seem to do for me is make me sane enough to leave my house and be a part of normal society. 

unfortunately my regular vendor has gone radio silent on me so i've been a total shut-in for 2 weeks.  even cancelled plans for people coming over to visit me.

 

[idan1120]

Neither. Xanax. Lol. I've tried the whole spectrum of benzos. Vals don't help my anxiety unless I eat 3 or 4 of them. KPins are like eating Spam when you're hungry for steak, imho. And good ol Addy Vans may as well be chalk. I may be biased because I need xanax to live. (Actually I'm the definition of biased. Lol) Alp is the only thing I've found that lets me actually deal. It is stronger, but I can deal with a few yawns and naps to live a halfway normal life.

 

[Broadway2282]

Val is king. I've tried them all and it is far superior. 

 

[Cgillen]

@Broadway2282 youd say roch is good? Thinking about roch Val/pins not sure which one tho...

 

[KAL]

V@lium def but not as a daily anxiety Med, if your taking them daily your better off with Kpins. I used to love v@l till I discovered x@n@x, then the v@ls stopped working all together. I really miss that feeling though I'd get from v@l 

 

[Broadway2282]

Val manufactured by Roche is the very best. Pin did very little for me but everyone is different on how their bodies react to pills. I will say Val has the longest half life of all the benzo's so it stays in your body the longest - which is good cause you do not have to take so many but bad if you are going to be drug tested. Can stick around in your body for 4-8 weeks after you quit and still show up on a drug test. They are addicting as most all benzo's are so be careful. Xan's just either entirely did not work at all or if I upped the dose, I was a drooling, slurring idiot who ran into walls. Val is Europhic and fast acting without becoming nonfunctional in my experience. I need to be able to speak and walk while calm and happy so Val works best for me.

 

[2earls]

I only use benzos to relax at night if I'm particularly stressed. I alternate between vals zans and klons.

I like the feeling I get from the zans the best but I sleep the best with val. I think it's because she lasts so long. Even though I like all of them, I don't have any desire to use them other than when needed. Guess it's lucky because I usually get addicted to everything.

 

[blissopifree 2]

All benzoes used daily will stop anxiety but if you can only use them in stressful situations they can and are a godsend.

I.e half to one Diaz or clonazepam before a job interview or a public speech or presentation,use them to your advantage don't let them take advantage of you as BNZs addiction is no joke and are a most evil drug as the addiction just creeps up and grabs you by the balls rrrr.

Peace and season greetings

Bliss.......

 

[KAL]

Kpins can take a week before they start working 100%, they also don't show up in drug screens which is weird but great. X@ns are best taken in small amounts or at home where your not gonna be slurring your words & acting a fool. They should really only be used for extreme panic attacks. V@ls you can function on in daily life without forgetting everything that x@ns do. For some reason Drs don't like scribing V@ls as much anymore, they rather scribe something like x@n@x. @blissopifree-2 Benz WD's is definitely no joke, probably the worst WD out of any drug. That's why I have my woman hold my kpins so I don't come up short then can't function in life till next refill.

 

[blissopifree 2]

Kal I had no idea about kpins not showing up in a drug test as I know zopiclone doesn't but never knew about the kpins.Thanks so much for that info as I'm deffo in trouble when I see my pain doc after the newyear as that will be 4 dirty samples outa 4 in a row!.

What's the other name for kpins again clonazepam or Ativan or something totally different as I'm in the UK and it's called something else In the states I'm sure?.

Peace

Bliss. .....