Kratom and Teeth

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eBagger

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I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.
 
eBagger said:
I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.
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Can't comment on your question about kr@t0m and t££th, but to access approved v£ñd0r$ you need to d0ñäté to the f0rüm. Wish you the best with your teeth and with getting clean!
 
Are you thinking there’s a correlation between poor dental health and Kratom?
 
eBagger said:
I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.
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Dude if you've been at 1mg a day of bupe or less for a year, just rip the bandaid off. Dont just switch to something else that you'll need to get off of. Youre already at such a low dose, respectively. Switching to kratom will likely cause you to go in the opposite direction. Take melatonin for a week to help you sleep during the initial phase. If its really that bad, ask your doctor for a short script of traz0done or something to help you sleep. If youre trying to get off everything, Kratom isnt the answer. Just my opinion.

I went through a similar thing a few years back only I went from f3nt to bupe and that was painful af. So when I finally got off bupe it was nothing because I remembered the painful switch from f to bupe. Just rip the bandaid bro you can do it.
 
eBagger said:
I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.
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First, excellent for you getting your bupe taper down! Thats not easy and thats the hard part imo. I did the exact same thing- its not easy but its a very wise choice and takes guts to stick with it despite all the doctors and other people who want to keep you on subs and medicated as a permanent solutio. It shouldn't be. Subs can be very tough to get off besides physical it is a whole system designed to get you on them for life. I'm coming up on a year off subs. I used kratom before with great success but if you get into extracts like pseudo, MGM15 and 7OH, those can definitely be addictive. Heed the warning but they are fun also. Plain leaf kratom is not addictive imo and I've used it A LOT and discontinued cold turkey after over 6 months straight with little to no sides. Extracts mentioned are a whole nother experience and considerations for addiction and withdrawal considerations.

What i recommend is becoming a sponsor (donate to the admin/contact per the post on becoming a member) and once approved go to the RC section and the one with an A (as well as others) have an RC called SR-17018 (there are others in SR series i am unfamiliar with personally using to get off subs as I am personally expeifenced with successfully using SR-17018 to finish a taper and completely get off subs with little to no sides). SR17018 is something very valuable to have on hand for getting off subs, opis, zenes, kratom extracts (i do not believe plain leaf kratom causes withdrawal but i see plenty of people claim it). My recommendation would be kratom (wonderland botanicals is a great vendor imho) and acquire a supply of a few grms of the SR17018. Anyone who does any amount of opiods or kratom extracts regularly should have this chem. I have helped multiple friends who were badly addicted avoid extreme withdrawal having this available. Kratom helps some and you can take the SR alongside kratom. If you are only 1mg of bupe, youve already done most of the heavy lifting and just need a bump across the finish line. And here's the part where it's harder- youre not going to want to be sober for life. Especally if you were smart enough to taper. Kratom and its extracts are excellent alternatives to traditional opiods and very successful in helping people quit all types of opiods for good. For me, daily kratom replaced daily oxy and my bank account and body are doing much better under those conditions.

Reportedly (and in my experience), there is no withdrawal or euphoria from dosing SR-17018. It is said to also reset your opiod receptors which can be both good and bad so be aware of this potential (kratom will definitely jack up your opiod tolerance). It's maybe a little relaxing but primarily you'll notice any type of withdrawal symptoms gone within 20 min. Typical dose is 20mg-100mg range for relief of opi related withdrawal depending on symptoms and short or long acting opiod- for bupe its very long acting. If taking with kratom, Id recommend taking the SR first and then the kratom. I would do about a week of daily SR and a couple shots of kratom (plain leaf) dialy, maybe 2-3 times a day.

For just 1mg of bupe getting off, you will be more than covered and it will be relatively painless. You can do it. You could do it by itself if you had to. Not everyone has the capability to even taper.
 
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