Kratom and Teeth

[eBagger]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

 

[jjjjjjjjj]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

Can't comment on your question about kr@t0m and t££th, but to access approved v£ñd0r$ you need to d0ñäté to the f0rüm. Wish you the best with your teeth and with getting clean!

 

[Blake11]

Are you thinking there’s a correlation between poor dental health and Kratom?

 

[fyjclol]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

Dude if you've been at 1mg a day of bupe or less for a year, just rip the bandaid off. Dont just switch to something else that you'll need to get off of. Youre already at such a low dose, respectively. Switching to kratom will likely cause you to go in the opposite direction. Take melatonin for a week to help you sleep during the initial phase. If its really that bad, ask your doctor for a short script of traz0done or something to help you sleep. If youre trying to get off everything, Kratom isnt the answer. Just my opinion.

I went through a similar thing a few years back only I went from f3nt to bupe and that was painful af. So when I finally got off bupe it was nothing because I remembered the painful switch from f to bupe. Just rip the bandaid bro you can do it.

 

[novedexrex]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

First, excellent for you getting your bupe taper down! Thats not easy and thats the hard part imo. I did the exact same thing- its not easy but its a very wise choice and takes guts to stick with it despite all the doctors and other people who want to keep you on subs and medicated as a permanent solutio. It shouldn't be. Subs can be very tough to get off besides physical it is a whole system designed to get you on them for life. I'm coming up on a year off subs. I used kratom before with great success but if you get into extracts like pseudo, MGM15 and 7OH, those can definitely be addictive. Heed the warning but they are fun also. Plain leaf kratom is not addictive imo and I've used it A LOT and discontinued cold turkey after over 6 months straight with little to no sides. Extracts mentioned are a whole nother experience and considerations for addiction and withdrawal considerations.

What i recommend is becoming a sponsor (donate to the admin/contact per the post on becoming a member) and once approved go to the RC section and the one with an A (as well as others) have an RC called SR-17018 (there are others in SR series i am unfamiliar with personally using to get off subs as I am personally expeifenced with successfully using SR-17018 to finish a taper and completely get off subs with little to no sides). SR17018 is something very valuable to have on hand for getting off subs, opis, zenes, kratom extracts (i do not believe plain leaf kratom causes withdrawal but i see plenty of people claim it). My recommendation would be kratom (wonderland botanicals is a great vendor imho) and acquire a supply of a few grms of the SR17018. Anyone who does any amount of opiods or kratom extracts regularly should have this chem. I have helped multiple friends who were badly addicted avoid extreme withdrawal having this available. Kratom helps some and you can take the SR alongside kratom. If you are only 1mg of bupe, youve already done most of the heavy lifting and just need a bump across the finish line. And here's the part where it's harder- youre not going to want to be sober for life. Especally if you were smart enough to taper. Kratom and its extracts are excellent alternatives to traditional opiods and very successful in helping people quit all types of opiods for good. For me, daily kratom replaced daily oxy and my bank account and body are doing much better under those conditions.

Reportedly (and in my experience), there is no withdrawal or euphoria from dosing SR-17018. It is said to also reset your opiod receptors which can be both good and bad so be aware of this potential (kratom will definitely jack up your opiod tolerance). It's maybe a little relaxing but primarily you'll notice any type of withdrawal symptoms gone within 20 min. Typical dose is 20mg-100mg range for relief of opi related withdrawal depending on symptoms and short or long acting opiod- for bupe its very long acting. If taking with kratom, Id recommend taking the SR first and then the kratom. I would do about a week of daily SR and a couple shots of kratom (plain leaf) dialy, maybe 2-3 times a day.

For just 1mg of bupe getting off, you will be more than covered and it will be relatively painless. You can do it. You could do it by itself if you had to. Not everyone has the capability to even taper.

 

[turndontburn]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

Pseudoindoxyl kicks tooth pain ass instantly for me

 

[Dikilala]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

I was on Suboxone for only a month. I was on 32mg for about 3 weeks. Went from 32mg to 16mg to 8mg to 4mg and hopped off at 2mg and then I got on kratom and it helped a lot. Had to take 15g every few hours or so though. I’m on 7.5g now. I was still shitting my pants needing to wear adult diapers but kratom really helped. I was on methadone for 3 years and it was hell. Had to do ibogaine to get off of it. For me, I do not want to be stuck on long acting like methadone or Suboxone, I felt like I was enslaved by those 2 meds. I don’t mind being on kratom. I was on it for 8 years and was flourishing in life. That’s just me though. Don’t mess with 7oh, that’s where I fucked up and ended up on suboxone. Kratom powder only. Due to legal troubles, I might need to kick Kratom cold turkey. But the withdrawals are nothing compared to methadone or Suboxone. Doctors keep trying to put me back on Suboxone. I said no so many times. Due to 7oh, many people think kratom and 7oh are basically the same thing. Me being from Southeast Asia, 7oh is making kratom look bad. I’m stuck out here in the US due to legal troubles and can’t go back home to the Philippines until everything gets sorted out. That is one reason why i cannot get on Suboxone, there is no Suboxone or opioids in the Philippines.

 

[lexxbell]

not entirely sure what you’re asking. but kratom never had an effect on my teeth outside of helping with dental pain. i’ve got genetically bad teeth and i’ve found kratom, and to a further (and more addictive) extent, 7-OH to help with tooth pain. not surprising given it has opioid like effects

if you’re wondering the kratom caused the pain, i doubt it. i’d imagine you just got used to the bupe as well as the tooth pain. the tooth pain was prolly still there but just blended into the background. then when you dropped the bupe, even being on kratom, your body chemistry had to readjust sensitivity to pain that you were used to medicating. obvi i’m not a dentist and idk your situation but i feel like the pain was probably already there, or at least it was developing. then, when your opioid and pain receptors had to readjust to swapping from bupe to kratom, they resensitized causing you to become acutely aware of the pain and issue

that sounds like it makes sense but idk don’t take my word for it idk what i’m talking about im just a girl

 

[dontdropit]

I've been on bupe over a decade and I'm ready to get off of it. I've tapered to taking like, less than 1mg a day for the past year, even <.5mg, its just the final jump I have a problem with, insomnia being a problem in general, when withdrawing it exacerbates and I can't go weeks without sleep like I did when I initially got clean the first time.

I used a method before switching to a short acting opiate (10mg oxy IR) for 3 months (after a car accident I was prescribed them) and when I jumped from those it was a piece of cake, maybe a week of discomfort and I quickly started feeling normal again.

So I can't obtain a decent supply of a short acting opiate this time, so I figured I'd try kratom. And much to surprise, it was a smooth transition. I waited ~30 hrs when I started feeling crappy, downed 3g's for white maeng da krataom, and it allowed me to sleep and took away much of the discomfort. So my plan was to take kratom for a month or two while the zubsolv gets out of my system, and then endure the much shorter withdrawal of kratom.

I need to get 2 teeth extracted (I'll be getting them taken out next week) but I noticed after a successful week off of zubsolv, my teeth were "aggravated" and caused like jaw pain as if I'd have eaten a bunch of candy.

Unfortunately I had to postpone my plan and started back on low dose zubsolv, I'm going to try again after I get my teeth extracted, but it felt like it might have been overall aggravant (not a word apparently). I've read mixed cases when researching this, if anyone cares to share personal experience.

Also, I've been a member of these forums for like ~10 years now, and I'm still not allowed in the accepted vendor section. What are the criteria to be allowed in? Is it a post count? Preciate it.

All I know is suboxone (I'm not sure but I'm assuming zubsolv is using a similar inactive/active ingredients) causes EXTREME cases of cavities, tooth decay and actual tooth loss. I am moving from suboxone back to kratom. I have only been on 2 months, but at 16mg/day. Now I'm tapering and then moving to kratom. It is extremely strange for me because I'm 40, in my mod 20's I found from a friend and eventually got a Dr to prescribe suboxone to me. I only ever needed 8mg in the morning (though I got 16mg a day) and I felt sooooo good. It was the only thing that worked for my treatment resistant depression, though I said it was for opioid use disorder for insurance reasons. But now, around 20 years later, I thought it would help in the same way, turn out it does not. Not only that, kratom actually helps with my depression better. The whole thing with suboxone is it's sooooo hard to get off of once on long term, it is so dependent-creating, the side effects are more than with kratom, and the side effects that they share, kratom's are 100x less.....

So I've decided I'm gonna do a quick taper off and move back to kratom. Which is not bad for teeth. Idk why that would happen to you, but I'm sure the buprenorphine caused the tooth (or possibly majorly contributed to) issues in an overall sense....

I know this post is old, but I hope all is and went well and you're doing well.