kratom with sub (bupe)

I'm on suboxone I would like to know more about this. I've used kratom before too come off of sub but I ended up back on it. I was sick of having too dose so much much kratom.

 
From my own experience it dose not send me into acute withdrawal, like if i did a full mu opi then took bupe early, but I dont get that sedated feeling just the jittery speedy thing that kratom does. If im off bupe and take a massive amount of kratom 30 ish grams I get a tiny bit of the warm and fuzzy slow opi type feeling. IF that makes any sense. 

 
From my experience, whenever I run out of my turkey subs.. the next day/afternoon I take Kratom and feel good, get a buzz from it and no WD. And everyday the Kratom gets more potent as the turkey sub leaves your body. And I also go back and forth because Kratom is hard to take multiple times a day everyday! oh I prefer Bali Kratom.

 
It blocks most of the alkaloids in Kratom, but not all. Kratom is complicated and unique, it acts primarily on opiate receptors but also acts as a stimulant. The majority of the receptors that Kratom would act on are blocked my Suboxone, but not all of them. I've taken Kratom and Suboxone together, but only when I was on a very small amount of Suboxone. Anything more than a few mg of Bupe and I don't even feel any need or desire to take Kratom --- it's not even a thought in my mind.

I have noticed, however, that you can take Suboxone very shortly after taking Kratom (a few hours later, if not even sooner) without experiencing any precipitated withdrawals like you would have from standard opiates. 

 
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  1. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @eswen444 might be a little more difficult and involve a little more planning, as well as price increases on certain items, but all of those will still be available, trust.
  2. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan i’m sure they made good money off of it and took the shit off the shelves, but I bet you it’s still available if you ask for it upon request especially if they know your regular buyer. I, like you, just bought kilos online to save money back in the day. I would only buy your shit from the smoke shops if I was that desperate.
  3. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan like I said before I’m a recovering opiate addict so I choose not to touch the shit at all but I’ve been to smoke shops because I buy disposable vape products and other accessories, but every smoke shop I’ve been to over the last few years have had kratom “front and center” and easy to see. About 2/3 years ago 7oh products began appearing and it got completely out of control. I remember telling one of the owners of my regular shop that 7oh it’s not gonna end well
  4. E @ eswen444: *or post here. Holy spelling problems....but also for everyones info what im told is as of 8/1/2026 7oh, MIT, MGM, and other concentrates will be scheduled 1. Its an emergency schedule which lasts TWO YEARS and they can request an additional if needed. I feel horrible for all the homie/homettes who have to deal with this.
  5. E @ eswen444: @MorfineOrfan do you have a link to the chems the DEA blans to emergency schedule? If so please pm it to me or lost here. From what im told from my corporate over seers everything BUT raw leaf, and capsuled leaf will be removed from shelves 7/31/26
  6. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: We made it to another Friday ladies and gents. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend, be safe out there.
  7. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z i have no clue what the supply and demand is like for brick and mortar shops, i havnt been in a smokeshope in 15-20years and back then none of them had or even knew what kratom was. Ive always bought kratom from vendors online, back in tge day we would use babel fish translator to haggle with vendors on kilo prices lol. But you dont need to worry mit will always be available if leaf is.
  8. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @nameofuser11 its not just 7/mgm/psuedo and sr, the dea has a huge list of compounds its banning with this ban. Odsmt is one, all the orphines and a ton more.
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  12. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @nameofuser11 Lol, happens to the best of us my friend. I think plain leaf will remain pretty easy to access, and prices shouldn’t fluctuate too much. Read up on how to use btc if you don’t know already. It’s not rocket science :)
  13. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: I donated and I forgot how to get the password. I am a moron. Don't worry I have no plans on becoming a vendor with my stupidity
  14. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: @st1ckyf1ng4z you're right of course. But being able to purchase with a debit card on a clearnet site with quality labs and low prices will be gone.
  15. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: Especially if they’re using mitragynine as the parent alk to make substitutes. I think it will affect plain leaf too at the very least it will not be as available as it’s been.
  16. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan @nameofuser11 That’s wild. But basic supply/demand tho, right? In my area all the leaf has been pulled off shelves,
  17. J @ j00ciiez: It sucks they're banning sr17. It seems to be a holy grail for many ppl.
  18. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: To clarify plain leaf kratom is not a part of this ban. Mitragynine might be fine. 7, psuedo,mgm15 and sr1708 are what are on the table to be banned most likely but hopefully just regulated.
  19. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z and yes , there are already indole alkoloids with tweaked scaffolding ready to take the place of 7/mgm, all with mitragynine as their parent alkoloid. The game of wack a mole starts the minute 7 is officially banned. Its 2013 K2 all over
  20. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan Also, it’s just a matter of time before another alternative pops up on the market anyway….
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