kratom with sub (bupe)

I'm on suboxone I would like to know more about this. I've used kratom before too come off of sub but I ended up back on it. I was sick of having too dose so much much kratom.

 
From my own experience it dose not send me into acute withdrawal, like if i did a full mu opi then took bupe early, but I dont get that sedated feeling just the jittery speedy thing that kratom does. If im off bupe and take a massive amount of kratom 30 ish grams I get a tiny bit of the warm and fuzzy slow opi type feeling. IF that makes any sense. 

 
From my experience, whenever I run out of my turkey subs.. the next day/afternoon I take Kratom and feel good, get a buzz from it and no WD. And everyday the Kratom gets more potent as the turkey sub leaves your body. And I also go back and forth because Kratom is hard to take multiple times a day everyday! oh I prefer Bali Kratom.

 
It blocks most of the alkaloids in Kratom, but not all. Kratom is complicated and unique, it acts primarily on opiate receptors but also acts as a stimulant. The majority of the receptors that Kratom would act on are blocked my Suboxone, but not all of them. I've taken Kratom and Suboxone together, but only when I was on a very small amount of Suboxone. Anything more than a few mg of Bupe and I don't even feel any need or desire to take Kratom --- it's not even a thought in my mind.

I have noticed, however, that you can take Suboxone very shortly after taking Kratom (a few hours later, if not even sooner) without experiencing any precipitated withdrawals like you would have from standard opiates. 

 
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