LSD: Share What You’ve Learned

[billtreehaust]

nvm, just give it a moment for me to get my opal banner approved lol

 

[billtreehaust]

so I just had a pack land from somebody new for some excellent—THE best—or just as good as any fluff I’ve had, and this really supports my theory on vendors labeling their L with a per dose potency.

I’m not trying to criticize vendors for doing this. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, most of them are just repeating what they have been told from their source. All I’m trying to do give advice (which I can’t prove) , but a little common sense goes a long way here: don’t pay extra money for L that supposedly is stronger than another.

PM me for some excellent “120ug” fluff that I guarantee you is just as good, if not better than any 150, 220, whatever they are saying it is. And here’s the kicker, it took 3 days to get it.

I PMd you

 

[Natalensis]

I’m goin to donate here shortly. Now that my finances are freed up a bit I’ll be able to
its not on his menu it’s something I asked for and they provided. SK stim king

@Protien_toast - Ever since you told me about SK, I’ve been asking other vendors via email if they have L that’s not on their list.

I just got a reply from a well -established vendor who replied they have 100ug gels @ 200/sheet. (I didn’t ask about smaller amounts)

But this would be interesting opportunity to solidify my theory about advertising the potency.

I’d try them myself, but I just ordered another sheet from the source I told you guys about.

If anyone is interested shoot me another PM.

I like what we got going here in this thread!

 

[Natalensis]

New vendor Apollo Squad is doing reasonably priced samples. The L is not on his sample list, but I asked him about the 100ug L, he replied that he would do 25 tabs for 50 - shipping included. He also called it NP - extremely interesting.

I was going to do it, but man, I’m WAY over my budget this week. Still thinking about it though.

Here’s another opportunity to test my theory on potency labels.

 

[globby]

New vendor Apollo Squad is doing reasonably priced samples. The L is not on his sample list, but I asked him about the 100ug L, he replied that he would do 25 tabs for 50 - shipping included. He also called it NP - extremely interesting.

I was going to do it, but man, I’m WAY over my budget this week. Still thinking about it though.

Here’s another opportunity to test my theory on potency labels.

It'll be nice to hear if anyone gets their samples quick.

 

[Natalensis]

Finally decided to give Apollo a chance on the 100ug.

It feels like a decent gamble. And new vendors typically always come through with sample orders.

 

[xenxra]

- Please weigh in.
- Please share what you’ve learned.
- Please post your theories.

based on my experience using batches from more sources than i can count over 15 years or so, i would estimate a lot of higher-dosed paper tabs are averaging around 80-90ug these days. gammagoblin's WoW tabs were tested by a plethora of people at energy control and found to be 98ug of the advertised 100ug and based on my experience and reading most other people's, these are regarded as some of the strongest tabs they've ever had unless you account for higher-dosed tabs from the same source - frequently being compared to Woodstock era supply. blueviking 150 tabs felt like 70ug if i were to compare them to GG WoW as a baseline, for example. i notice that the potency seems to be a lot more reliable when sourcing gel tabs and the reliability increases when moving to microdots, then vials. i really think the established guidelines for recreational dosing of LSD are heavily skewed as an extension of the lack of broader population testing coupled with it's notoriously awful stability unless you basically bury it underground in a tundra.

 

[Heman]

Is it ok to ask, how does LappLisas offerings measure up? (I know they don't ship to US but still ...)

 

[Natalensis]

based on my experience using batches from more sources than i can count over 15 years or so, i would estimate a lot of higher-dosed paper tabs are averaging around 80-90ug these days. gammagoblin's WoW tabs were tested by a plethora of people at energy control and found to be 98ug of the advertised 100ug and based on my experience and reading most other people's, these are regarded as some of the strongest tabs they've ever had unless you account for higher-dosed tabs from the same source - frequently being compared to Woodstock era supply. blueviking 150 tabs felt like 70ug if i were to compare them to GG WoW as a baseline, for example. i notice that the potency seems to be a lot more reliable when sourcing gel tabs and the reliability increases when moving to microdots, then vials. i really think the established guidelines for recreational dosing of LSD are heavily skewed as an extension of the lack of broader population testing coupled with it's notoriously awful stability unless you basically bury it underground in a tundra.

This more or less lines up with my theory- it all was transferred from Crystal, to (whatever) at the same intended standard dose), what affects potency is how it’s stored or handled afterwards.

Very detailed and informative- thank you!

 

[Natalensis]

Storing LSD at room temperature with NO PRECAUTIONS taken to protect the acid:

• Blotter paper will usually retain its potency for 4-6 weeks
• Liquid LSD stored in a clear dropper should remain potent for 4–6 weeks
• Liquid LSD stored in an amber dropper should remain potent for 3–6 months
• Microdots will often retain potency for 6–8 weeks
• Sugar cubes naturally resist moisture and can last about 6-8 weeks

These timelines are based on the acid being exposed to ambient UV light, heat, and moisture. Source: Tripsitter

 

[Natalensis]

So here’s my rhetorical question:

How many vendors know the above facts and are storing it properly?

Or how about person they acquired it from?

Or who about the person who transported it last? If you expose lsd that was packaged properly but that package was placed in a spot that exposes it to temperatures high enough - it could literally destroy most all of the potency in a single day.
If left in a parked car parked car during the summer for a single day, just as an example.

 

[Natalensis]

Apoll0 is legit. Artwork is like nothing I’ve ever seen.
Google for an image of the description of how they have worded the L blotter in the sample section - first time I’ve ever seen it. “Hoffman Hexagonal”

 

[Tinyfishnemo]

Apoll0 is legit. Artwork is like nothing I’ve ever seen.
Google for an image of the description of how they have worded the L blotter in the sample section - first time I’ve ever seen it. “Hoffman Hexagonal”

Have you tried it yet?

 

[Natalensis]

Yes I have- it’s the same stuff that’s everywhere. After a bit more detailef research, a full six sided sheet would be 600 doses.

 

[Natalensis]

The market is flooded right now, and even with the quality being on point in everything I’ve tried, the prices should be going down.

There’s not like a bunch of people manufacturing it, as you would assume - competing for business, etc.. that’s the way all drugs work? No, not this one. Not necessarily.

I’ll give you guys my theory if you want to hear it. I just gotta copy and paste it out of a pm I sent to someone.

 

[Natalensis]

Have you tried it yet?

Yes - solid dose

 

[billtreehaust]

Storing LSD at room temperature with NO PRECAUTIONS taken to protect the acid:

• Blotter paper will usually retain its potency for 4-6 weeks
• Liquid LSD stored in a clear dropper should remain potent for 4–6 weeks
• Liquid LSD stored in an amber dropper should remain potent for 3–6 months
• Microdots will often retain potency for 6–8 weeks
• Sugar cubes naturally resist moisture and can last about 6-8 weeks

These timelines are based on the acid being exposed to ambient UV light, heat, and moisture. Source: Tripsitter

I read the full article and am wondering what you reckon about the estimated shelf life if stored at room temperature, in a dark dry place, in an airtight container and wrapped in tin foil. Frankly I'm not too big a fan of the idea of storing it in a freezer for concerns of others accidentally discovering it when digging around for a bar of ice cream.

 

[Blake11]

Have you tried it yet?

I took one this morning it was strong felt stronger than. 1 hit

 

[Blake11]

I read the full article and am wondering what you reckon about the estimated shelf life if stored at room temperature, in a dark dry place, in an airtight container and wrapped in tin foil. Frankly I'm not too big a fan of the idea of storing it in a freezer for concerns of others accidentally discovering it when digging around for a bar of ice cream.

Light an air an heat are your enemies When trying to not get your LSD to degrade

 

[Blake11]

Yes I have- it’s the same stuff that’s everywhere. After a bit more detailef research, a full six sided sheet would be 600 doses.

So that would make him one third stronger now there’s normally 900 if there’s 600 of these in their 1/3 stronger than they would be if they were 900 it’s simple math I felt stronger than one most definitely stronger than one I need to eat more of it before I can see whether I believe it’s np or not….