M30 presses (no f3nt) what is in them?

[crayt]

I’ve been told this is 0dsmt “and a m0rphine analogue”. Wtf m0rph analogs r around these days? Could it maybe be “0rphines”? Or just zns?

I saw an old thread in fake pills on this exact topic years ago but I’m curious to know if yall actually know since I can’t get a sample of this before donating alot on a bunch of pgs. Ty !

 

[alixjones2018]

Its probably 7-0H.

 

[herbaladv]

Was this from a dnm vendor or sourced here? That's the exact language I've seen for one of the more popular/long time m30 "smackers" but instead of 7oh ive seen some vendors acknowledge using odsmt while another listing with same/similar description was actuality iso (one of the strongest zenes) so the only real way to know/ verify the contents is to send one off for lab analysis.

Kykeon had stopped accepting submissions as they were moving but hot can request a free gc/ms analysis & ftir or nmr test for by requesting a submission kit from pagroundhogs.org (it comes weird unique or code on the paperwork/instructions that let you check the results) & send one full pill in.

Right now it seems to take a few days once received before preliminary results are available & takes abt 1-1.5/2 weeks from mailing away to get the final result.

The results don't mean that that might not be a hotspot in a different pill or inconsistencies and dosing within the same batch you received; but at least you will get an idea of the active ingredients along with any cuts and fillers or non opioid ingredients that might be used during the pressing process. Just make sure you don't have them stored in a container that had other drugs or chemicals in them as it might show up as a trace result in the higher specificity testing. But that's just an issue on the handling process before testing versus the likelihood of a trace unknown ingredient showing up if it was already purposely included in the mix before pressing.

The most dangerous m30s contain carfentanil or similar/stronger potency zenes which are much stronger & longer duration than fentanyl & most fentalogs as the active ingredient. The worst/most dangerous presses also have bzds and/or anesthetics like etomidate and or medetomidine/dexmedetomidine which are veterinary anesthetic sedatives and even human rx meds aka precedex (drug to lower bp/hr & respiratory rate as a side effect).

You can imagine how a press with those combinations can be dangerous in terms of OD or respiratory depression but also some ppl end up using them long term & then have dangerous w/d from all of those different drugs & w/d from non-opioid drugs (especially bzds & similar gaba-related drugs/sedatives) can actually be dangerous & trigger seizures or even stroke/ death when done CT.

The site i mentioned above for lab tests also tracks the data ppl provide like whether its from a area/zipcode or from an alternate/online source (but that's all voluntary & optional data provided with the submission notes; not based off of the place the submission kit was sent so no big brother tracking).

They have a newsletter & warning alerts that warns of patterns when there's a pattern on the data provided & a pattern in the active chemicals/adulterants in consistent & dangerous mixes or adverse events reported or narcan required (also optional data requested) & they have alot of harm reduction data resources along w/ lipstick test kits for fent, zenes, & tranq. I'm not affiliated with their site but think offering the first test for free & their patterned alerts & test kits all in one site feels like the USA version of Dancesafe.

Btw, they dont use last names on the envelope submission kit they mail to you; they just use the last initial. You just keep the bottom tearoff with the qr code & follow the instructions & send the full pill w/ w/e details you can provide comfortably in the submission form. I know they do the work properly as ive seen farmapram results that I know were sent in correctly.

 

[crayt]

Its probably 7-0H.

I would really doubt that. Cartels wouldn’t swap from f3nt thirties to put 7oh in em. It wouldn’t keep any avid emthirty user even out of WD

 

[crayt]

Was this from a dnm vendor or sourced here? That's the exact language I've seen for one of the more popular/long time m30 "smackers" but instead of 7oh ive seen some vendors acknowledge using odsmt while another listing with same/similar description was actuality iso (one of the strongest zenes) so the only real way to know/ verify the contents is to send one off for lab analysis.

Kykeon had stopped accepting submissions as they were moving but hot can request a free gc/ms analysis & ftir or nmr test for by requesting a submission kit from pagroundhogs.org (it comes weird unique or code on the paperwork/instructions that let you check the results) & send one full pill in.

Right now it seems to take a few days once received before preliminary results are available & takes abt 1-1.5/2 weeks from mailing away to get the final result.

The results don't mean that that might not be a hotspot in a different pill or inconsistencies and dosing within the same batch you received; but at least you will get an idea of the active ingredients along with any cuts and fillers or non opioid ingredients that might be used during the pressing process. Just make sure you don't have them stored in a container that had other drugs or chemicals in them as it might show up as a trace result in the higher specificity testing. But that's just an issue on the handling process before testing versus the likelihood of a trace unknown ingredient showing up if it was already purposely included in the mix before pressing.

The most dangerous m30s contain carfentanil or similar/stronger potency zenes which are much stronger & longer duration than fentanyl & most fentalogs as the active ingredient. The worst/most dangerous presses also have bzds and/or anesthetics like etomidate and or medetomidine/dexmedetomidine which are veterinary anesthetic sedatives and even human rx meds aka precedex (drug to lower bp/hr & respiratory rate as a side effect).

You can imagine how a press with those combinations can be dangerous in terms of OD or respiratory depression but also some ppl end up using them long term & then have dangerous w/d from all of those different drugs & w/d from non-opioid drugs (especially bzds & similar gaba-related drugs/sedatives) can actually be dangerous & trigger seizures or even stroke/ death when done CT.

The site i mentioned above for lab tests also tracks the data ppl provide like whether its from a area/zipcode or from an alternate/online source (but that's all voluntary & optional data provided with the submission notes; not based off of the place the submission kit was sent so no big brother tracking).

They have a newsletter & warning alerts that warns of patterns when there's a pattern on the data provided & a pattern in the active chemicals/adulterants in consistent & dangerous mixes or adverse events reported or narcan required (also optional data requested) & they have alot of harm reduction data resources along w/ lipstick test kits for fent, zenes, & tranq. I'm not affiliated with their site but think offering the first test for free & their patterned alerts & test kits all in one site feels like the USA version of Dancesafe.

Btw, they dont use last names on the envelope submission kit they mail to you; they just use the last initial. You just keep the bottom tearoff with the qr code & follow the instructions & send the full pill w/ w/e details you can provide comfortably in the submission form. I know they do the work properly as ive seen farmapram results that I know were sent in correctly.

Thank you. I wasn’t aware of that site. Is that like drugsdata .org but private ? I really wish ddata was still up and running. And this was told to me by TWO vendors on the cn. People also r getting these 0d5mt + m0prh analogs on the dm as well, from what I’ve been told.

If you go to the fake pills category, there’s another post exactly about this and ppl claim the analog is de5om0rphine but there is NO SHOT right? My guess is the person supply these meant 0rph1ne analog and NOT m0rph1ne

There’s also a good dozen posts on Reddit about these as well if u search it up. User explained effects as “cold” opposed to a warm 0pi feeling, less euphoria than fent even. And about less than half the strength of a f3nt pressed thirty. I just don’t get why cart3ls would be using 0d5mt either, it’s very weak .

About the iso press, the p3rc 10 presses going around right now are proto and/or iso to my knowledge. But how would one even accurate dose a z3n3 pressed p1ll? A single speck in each quarter? XD

I’ve never had z3nes and do not want to. Nor do I want to buy something that has an unknown “m0rph analog” . Thank you for the feedback

 

[crayt]

for anyone interested on these 0d5mT + morph Emthirty testing results thus far:

They do NOT contain 0d$mt (tr4m4d0l urine test) or an morph anal0g (opi urine test). Or f3nt (strip test).

Major (TOP) vendors are offering them as this and it’s not even their fault bc it’s just dr0pshipping after all.. But they should be checking with simple testing strips before mass selling as “0d$mt + m0rph analog” bc they are strong af. I was told #4 was stronger but boy was that wrong. Also the effect of them are pretty mid, I wouldn’t bother. No euphoria, nor did my pupils get pinned but yet I passed out each time?

I have xylaz1ne and z3n3 strips coming on Monday. My first guess is gonna be meto (given the short half life of the effect) or a short acting orph1ne anal0g.
WD comes 5 hr after a dose (I take em g em daily)

If both tests come back negative, I’ll be sending into a lab for in depth results, for the sake of the community. Unfortunately you can’t find results on dbg for emthirties/blue candies/emb0xes etc, with a simple search either which sucks since ppl use different code for the word (to my knowledge) , so idk if anyone will even see this.

Will report back on the xyla & zne tests Monday.

 

[crayt]

UPDATE:
XYLAZ1N3 test results : NEGATIVE
NITAZENE test results : POSITIVE!!

So yeah, simply put, don’t trust these od5mt m0rph analog “fent free” blu3s. Unless you’re cool with z3n3s

My guess is meto, given the short half life. But could be the gen 3 zns (iso & proto(pyne). Anyway that’s all and I hope this can help someone

My file (strip results) isn’t attaching, I’ll try to figure it out later

 

[crayt]

Bottom line - if you’re looking for safer “f3nt free”blu3s/emthurtiesss, just don’t. Ask the vendor what in them, you’ll get the response, “od5mt + m0rph analog. It is not EITHER. It’s just ZNS. Luckily no xyla though at the least lol


I have contacted several of them who sell these exact ones (bulky/thick, chalky and light blue color) p1lls. I am hoping they make the change on their menus. If not, I will keep pressing this issue to possibly save someone life. Be safe everyone

 

[TooTired]

@crayt this isn't my genre at all but wanted to drop by to say I appreciate the info and the harm reduction. may help save a life!

 

[ReeDaKyng]

Thank you. I wasn’t aware of that site. Is that like drugsdata .org but private ? I really wish ddata was still up and running. And this was told to me by TWO vendors on the cn. People also r getting these 0d5mt + m0prh analogs on the dm as well, from what I’ve been told.

If you go to the fake pills category, there’s another post exactly about this and ppl claim the analog is de5om0rphine but there is NO SHOT right? My guess is the person supply these meant 0rph1ne analog and NOT m0rph1ne

There’s also a good dozen posts on Reddit about these as well if u search it up. User explained effects as “cold” opposed to a warm 0pi feeling, less euphoria than fent even. And about less than half the strength of a f3nt pressed thirty. I just don’t get why cart3ls would be using 0d5mt either, it’s very weak .

About the iso press, the p3rc 10 presses going around right now are proto and/or iso to my knowledge. But how would one even accurate dose a z3n3 pressed p1ll? A single speck in each quarter? XD

I’ve never had z3nes and do not want to. Nor do I want to buy something that has an unknown “m0rph analog” . Thank you for the feedback

Thanks man. I was the guy on Reddit that posted about this and my review of it. Zenes fit the description perfectly.

Almosg as potent as blues, sedating, but cold and minimal euphoria sigh