Mgm and 7 Ban

[Boofy416]

With these substances being temporarily schedule 1 tomorrow is anyone able to take over in place of the popular online vendors? The regular places act legally and I'm sure tons of people haven't been able to stock up for the upcoming months. It's a great opportunity for someone to step in. I should be good for a few weeks but then I'll be looking for some myself so if anyone knows anyone that can get it or if there's a thread somewhere else please point me to it!

 

[Deepnorth]

I am still slightly confused why anyone would prefer emgeem with legit mags pharma are still reachable. The side effects seem to be unworth it. Now I will say…. Until now as a back up it had its place. I do wish I understood the help of SR17 but I’m late on the draw there too. Can someone with more knowledge explain how SR reduces T levels or is a good option with emgeem. Is it to avoid T levels going through the roof? Sorry if this is already greatly explained elsewhere. Also sorry my bold text kicked in lol.

I imagine though something will take the place of MIT (emgeem) quickly.

 

[baberuth]

I am still slightly confused why anyone would prefer emgeem with legit mags pharma are still reachable. The side effects seem to be unworth it. Now I will say…. Until now as a back up it had its place. I do wish I understood the help of SR17 but I’m late on the draw there too. Can someone with more knowledge explain how SR reduces T levels or is a good option with emgeem. Is it to avoid T levels going through the roof? Sorry if this is already greatly explained elsewhere. Also sorry my bold text kicked in lol.

I imagine though something will take the place of MIT (emgeem) quickly.

I'm gonna quote something I wrote in a reply to a completely different question:

"The subjective effects of mu opioid agonists are sundry, and some of these effects are linked to different pathways of mu opioid agonism. SR-17018 preferentially stimulates G protein signaling pathways. (The mu opioid receptor is a G protein coupled receptor or GCPR.) In GCPRs, agonism induces a cascade of intracellular effects - essentially a growing chain reaction (more or less) that leads to the ultimate results you feel. What's different about SR-17018? It achieves what was just described while largely ignoring beta-arrestin recruitment. Beta-arrestin is involved in desensitization to GCPR agonism and receptor internalization, among other things. This is presumably why SR-17018 yields some opioid effects (namely analgesia) without others (notably euphoria and the accruing of tolerance, at least relative to traditional opioids)."

Not a biochemist or anything so take with a grain of salt. Feel free to follow up with questions if anything is unclear!

 

[Mammasboi123]

I am still slightly confused why anyone would prefer emgeem with legit mags pharma are still reachable. The side effects seem to be unworth it. Now I will say…. Until now as a back up it had its place. I do wish I understood the help of SR17 but I’m late on the draw there too. Can someone with more knowledge explain how SR reduces T levels or is a good option with emgeem. Is it to avoid T levels going through the roof? Sorry if this is already greatly explained elsewhere. Also sorry my bold text kicked in lol.

I imagine though something will take the place of MIT (emgeem) quickly.

My understanding is that SR-17 likely does not reduce òpîoîd tolerance at any significant rate on its own. The primary driver behind the “tolerance reduction” people talk about is from the person quitting their òpîoîd DOC, or lessening their daily intake with the help of SR-17.

Essentially, SR-17 is meant to help get people off of other òpîods as painlessly as possible, and without getting them addicted to SR in the process. When a user manages to stop taking or learn their opi of choice for an extended period of time, their tolerance drops.

From personal experience, it most certainly makes opi WDs much more manageable, especially the physical WDs. When I used SR-17 to help quit a high dose ØDŚMT habit awhile back, I’d say it took away roughly 60-70% of the worst of the WD symptoms.

I can also personally attest to the fact that taking SR alongside my regular dose of òpîods did not reduce my overall tolerance to òpîods in general. It did however make it easier for me to take less than I normally would on any given day, mostly because I the cravings or WDs in between doses was not as bad. But you have to stick to a strict protocol and not deviate from it if you want to see results.

I think there’s a mix of misunderstanding and misinformation when it comes to SR-17 and its’ usefulness as a tool for tolerance reversal and withdrawal management/detox assistance. Mainly because it’s such a new drug and there just haven’t been enough proper scientific studies done on it yet to fully understand what it’s doing and how it’s doing it.

One last thing I’ll mention is that if you are interested in hearing more people’s anecdotal stories about what’s worked for them, I’ve found that the SR-17018 sùbřěddît has been extremely informative so far. This also goes for finding different SR protocols for coming off of nearly every type of opi. I’m sure you can find lots of posts about SR and eMGeeM in particular if you gave it a search on the app, @Deepnorth!

Hopefully this somewhat answered your question!

Good luck, and stay safe!

-MB

 

[baberuth]

My understanding is that SR-17 likely does not reduce òpîoîd tolerance at any significant rate on its own. The primary driver behind the “tolerance reduction” people talk about is from the person quitting their òpîoîd DOC, or lessening their daily intake with the help of SR-17.

Essentially, SR-17 is meant to help get people off of other òpîods as painlessly as possible, and without getting them addicted to SR in the process. When a user manages to stop taking or learn their opi of choice for an extended period of time, their tolerance drops.

From personal experience, it most certainly makes opi WDs much more manageable, especially the physical WDs. When I used SR-17 to help quit a high dose ØDŚMT habit awhile back, I’d say it took away roughly 60-70% of the worst of the WD symptoms.

I can also personally attest to the fact that taking SR alongside my regular dose of òpîods did not reduce my overall tolerance to òpîods in general. It did however make it easier for me to take less than I normally would on any given day, mostly because I the cravings or WDs in between doses was not as bad. But you have to stick to a strict protocol and not deviate from it if you want to see results.

I think there’s a mix of misunderstanding and misinformation when it comes to SR-17 and its’ usefulness as a tool for tolerance reversal and withdrawal management/detox assistance. Mainly because it’s such a new drug and there just haven’t been enough proper scientific studies done on it yet to fully understand what it’s doing and how it’s doing it.

One last thing I’ll mention is that if you are interested in hearing more people’s anecdotal stories about what’s worked for them, I’ve found that the SR-17018 sùbřěddît has been extremely informative so far. This also goes for finding different SR protocols for coming off of nearly every type of opi. I’m sure you can find lots of posts about SR and eMGeeM in particular if you gave it a search on the app, @Deepnorth!

Hopefully this somewhat answered your question!

Good luck, and stay safe!

-MB

This is correct. SR-17018 doesn’t reduce tolerance. It’s the discontinuation of traditional opioids that does. SR-17018 lets you obtain opioid analgesia while letting your tolerance decrease. I should have clarified that in my post. Thanks!

 

[Deepnorth]

Thank you all very much. This makes 100% sense. I think you are right that disinformation has caused for a misunderstanding of what actually takes place. So it allows you to titrate and way by providing a mediation essentially. That helps a lot. Basically a crutch to get away from a DOC a little bit easier whilst not becoming another crutch. It’s a shame that they’re messing with this but it’s a shame they are messing with anything.

 

[Terrylolol]

The ban still technically hasn't passed yet. It's still legal for the very moment speaking...