Mushroom Chemistry

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I am going to get into various aspects of Mushroom Chemistry to expand the concept of the Medical Mushroom Section of this Website, and I’ll get into Growing Tech also.

So I’ll Start with the kind of Simple Basics, there are 2 Main Psychoactive Mushroom Groups, how there are like the Animal and Plant Kingdoms, and it goes Down to Species, there are many Species and they fit into 2 Main Groups. The Reason they have any effect at all is because for some Reason these Mushrooms are making Chemicals similar to Things in Your Brain. The 2 Main Groups are Amanita Mushrooms, and Psilocybin Mushrooms. Amanita Mushrooms are the Alice in Wonderland Mushrooms with the White Spots on Red Caps, the ones Gnomes Live under, the ones associated with Pine Trees and the Christmas Season, Reindeer even eat them. These Mushrooms, Amanita Mushrooms, have a less Psychedelic Effect. Ibotenic Acid and Muscimol are the Molecules that give these Mushrooms their effect. There is some Chemistry behind this whereby if You take Muscimol You might actually get sick as it turns into Ibotenic Acid in Your Stomach, then You actually Urinate Ibotenic Acid and Your Body doesn’t use all of it. So there are People that eat Amanita Mushrooms, Collect their Urine, and they can drink it to get Full Effects, this Working up to 7 Times. There is a Culture that Watches Carribou, Reindeer, eat the Mushrooms, then they Collect the Urine to use, so they don’t have to get sick.

The Other Mushroom, Psilocybin, is the “Magic Mushroom” that Timothy Leary Talks about in the Merv Griffin interview, the one Sold on the Streets, they was discovered in Mexico by Modern Scientists but had been all over the World. These Mushrooms contain 4-OH-DMT, and some argue that it’s basically just DMT made Orally Active, but there are Differences. 4-Aco-DMT is Similar. And there is something Strange about the Chemistry that is done in these Mushrooms. In his Book TIHKAL, Dr. Sasha Shulgin says that he found that You could add DMT to the Young Mushroom Culture, to the Mycelium, and it would use the DMT to make 4-OH-DMT. The way he actually Worded it was that You could put in a Mickey Mouse, and it would produce a 4-OH-Mickey Mouse. So You can add any number of Things to a Mushroom Culture and it will 4-Hydroxylize it. There is also in one of his Book a List of Cacti and what they make. So Mushrooms and Cacti can actually both be used this way, and Things like Phenythlamine can be added, there are a number of Substances that could be used. This would be considered like using Precursors to make Things inside Plants, that’s what’s going on.

So now for Growing Mushrooms.

There was an Old Method called PF Tek, and many People still do this. You get Several Mason Jars, do the Sterilization (Pressure Cooker) after filling it with Substrate. You can Buy these online also. Then You get Spores in Syringes, which is Legal because You can study the Spores under a Microscope, You aren’t supposed to Grow them when You Buy them. But they are Legal to Buy because it’s for Research under a Microscope. You inoculate the Jars, and You Grow Patties.

The more Modern way of doing it is filling a Tote with Coco Coir, there is like a layer of Vermiculite, a Layer of Brown Rice Flour or seething like that, and Oat Straw, then like Vermiculite on the other side and Coco Coir around all of it on bottom and on top. So then You make a PF Tek Jar and Innoculate it, and then You Break it apart into the Oat Straw and Rice Flour. Then it Innoculates the whole Tote. And that way You grow like a Pound. The PF Tek is like 1 oz or 1/2 oz per Jar. The Coco Coir Tote is like a Lb. And once You harvest You wet the Coco Brick, You flip it over, and it Grows another Lb.

Once You are Growing You would also want to Collect Your own Spores, so You can readily start again with Your Own Spores. There are many Videos online for how to make Spore Prints. You keep everything sterile, and put it in Sterile Water in a Syringe, and that is how You keep it going.
 
There is some Chemistry behind this whereby if You take Muscimol You might actually get sick as it turns into Ibotenic Acid in Your Stomach, then You actually Urinate Ibotenic Acid and Your Body doesn’t use all of it. So there are People that eat Amanita Mushrooms, Collect their Urine, and they can drink it to get Full Effects, this Working up to 7 Times. There is a Culture that Watches Carribou, Reindeer, eat the Mushrooms, then they Collect the Urine to use, so they don’t have to get sick.
The story goes that there's a tribe in Siberia that uses the muscaria/pantherina Amanitas on a sacred festival night. (plenty of other Amanitas are deadly poisonous and will destroy your kidneys and liver in a couple of days) This tribe had no knowledge of the effects of alcohol. The shaman is the only one that eats the actual mushrooms, along with various other poisons and antidotes and deliriants that are hidden in the various forest treats he consumes. The shaman becomes possessed by the spirit of the forest. The tribesmen grab their keg cups and gather round. Collecting his sacred urine while he's seized in the throes of a visionary trip beyond the campground beyond the sun. A wonderful orgy comenses as the usual social boundaries collapse into a night of big fun for the whole tribe.

To each his own but I've never had an interest in the muscarias or shaman piss. Regular old fashioned magic shrooms have done fine by me.

These Mushrooms contain 4-OH-DMT, and some argue that it’s basically just DMT made Orally Active, but there are Differences. 4-Aco-DMT is Similar.

'Arguing' that families of chemicals are all the same in this manner is a good way to end up in a world of hurt. Or dead. The biggest reason RCs have a poor reputation in the media is because of a mistake confusing 2CBfly with 3CBromodragonfly leading to deaths and hospitalizations around the world.

Psilocin is 4-OH-DMT, Psilocybin is 4-PO-DMT. 4-Aco-DMT, 4-Pr-DMT and psilocybin are all prodrugs of Psilocin. This means your stomach turns them into psilocin in your stomach. To most people they're basically the same with small differences. Then you have 5-HO-DMT, bufotenin. Toad juice. Quote from PHIKAL, by Alexander Shulgin:

'(with 4 mg, intravenously, over a 3 minute period) “During the injection, I first felt a burning sensation in my face, then a load pressing down from above, and then a numbness of the entire body. I saw red and black spots—a vivid orange-red—moving around. Apparently my purplish face color lasted some 15 minutes, well after my visual things had disappeared.”'

Similar stories abound. Taking 5-HO-DMT safely requires more research and care than taking psilocybin or DMT. Smoking or ingesting the various chemicals in the DMT family with or without MAO inhibitors uninformed of the differences can be very dangerous. Not worth it when all the info you need is easily found on the internet.

5-MeO-DMT is a chemical that is often confused with DMT. Both are commonly smoked, both are inactive if ingested without a MAOI. Very different effects. A dose of DMT many find pleasureable will cause an effect some have compared to having their head squashed by an elephant from 5-MeO-DMT. I'm not saying any of these chemicals are bad or shouldn't be used. Educate yourself and be as safe as possible, it's obvious the governments and the media aren't interested in helping you.
 
The story goes that there's a tribe in Siberia that uses the muscaria/pantherina Amanitas on a sacred festival night. (plenty of other Amanitas are deadly poisonous and will destroy your kidneys and liver in a couple of days) This tribe had no knowledge of the effects of alcohol. The shaman is the only one that eats the actual mushrooms, along with various other poisons and antidotes and deliriants that are hidden in the various forest treats he consumes. The shaman becomes possessed by the spirit of the forest. The tribesmen grab their keg cups and gather round. Collecting his sacred urine while he's seized in the throes of a visionary trip beyond the campground beyond the sun. A wonderful orgy comenses as the usual social boundaries collapse into a night of big fun for the whole tribe.

To each his own but I've never had an interest in the muscarias or shaman piss. Regular old fashioned magic shrooms have done fine by me.



'Arguing' that families of chemicals are all the same in this manner is a good way to end up in a world of hurt. Or dead. The biggest reason RCs have a poor reputation in the media is because of a mistake confusing 2CBfly with 3CBromodragonfly leading to deaths and hospitalizations around the world.

Psilocin is 4-OH-DMT, Psilocybin is 4-PO-DMT. 4-Aco-DMT, 4-Pr-DMT and psilocybin are all prodrugs of Psilocin. This means your stomach turns them into psilocin in your stomach. To most people they're basically the same with small differences. Then you have 5-HO-DMT, bufotenin. Toad juice. Quote from PHIKAL, by Alexander Shulgin:

'(with 4 mg, intravenously, over a 3 minute period) “During the injection, I first felt a burning sensation in my face, then a load pressing down from above, and then a numbness of the entire body. I saw red and black spots—a vivid orange-red—moving around. Apparently my purplish face color lasted some 15 minutes, well after my visual things had disappeared.”'

Similar stories abound. Taking 5-HO-DMT safely requires more research and care than taking psilocybin or DMT. Smoking or ingesting the various chemicals in the DMT family with or without MAO inhibitors uninformed of the differences can be very dangerous. Not worth it when all the info you need is easily found on the internet.

5-MeO-DMT is a chemical that is often confused with DMT. Both are commonly smoked, both are inactive if ingested without a MAOI. Very different effects. A dose of DMT many find pleasureable will cause an effect some have compared to having their head squashed by an elephant from 5-MeO-DMT. I'm not saying any of these chemicals are bad or shouldn't be used. Educate yourself and be as safe as possible, it's obvious the governments and the media aren't interested in helping you.
shrooms and dmt best trip i ever had. did around xmas last year. i did dmt, mdma, lsd, and shrooms couple weeks ago. It wasn;t terrible but I couldn't function well and was taken to a club instead of a rave lol. I was rave high not going to the club and chill high i stuck out like a sore thumb.
 
shrooms and dmt best trip i ever had. did around xmas last year. i did dmt, mdma, lsd, and shrooms couple weeks ago. It wasn;t terrible but I couldn't function well and was taken to a club instead of a rave lol. I was rave high not going to the club and chill high i stuck out like a sore thumb.
don't think they liked me hitting deem cart much in there either.
 
Any nitwit can grow shrooms with a bit of research, minimal cost and fairly little effort.
 
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