My biggest concern

Ringo

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Hello everyone,

I think the members here have a wide variety of political views. I am not joining discussions about politics, because I think it only leads to unnecessary stress. 

But here is my biggest concern. Usually the two major parties in the USA hold opposing views on a subject, and laws get tighter and looser depending what party has the most power. 

There's one exception: drugs. I don't mean medical marijuana. But both parties want to implement more control and more regulations. Maybe for different reasons, but the result is the same: the laws only get stricter. Here both parties work together and pull the load in the same direction. Also both parties want more control over our money transactions, our purchases and expenses, etc.

I personally think it's not going to end well: in some states even people with terminal cancer have problems getting adequate pain management. There're talks about scheduling Gabapentin, which will cause even more unnecessary suffering. Scheduling tramadol was stupid enough, but Gabapentin with its low toxicity and a great safety profile? 

I think both elephants and donkeys are pulling us to a deep pool of pain. Because they don't use the same healthcare services we do. Because overdose deaths are easily calculated and give a basis to demonize opioids, and other meds too, just in case. Because shorter lives, lower functionality, raising alcohol consumption among patients suffering from chronic pain are much more difficult to present as numbers and graphs. Because no numbers or graphs can reflect suffering.

 
I totally agree with you on all points.  Our wonderful government is trying to exert more and more control over us; basically, our elected officials were voted in to represent, not rule!  This whole "opioids epidemic" was created in order to control us more.  Go to the cdc website and really check the stats. The stats they use when talking about all the deaths from opiod overdoses include heroin and illegal, synthetic drugs.  Take those away and were left with a very small percentage of deaths from legal, prescribed drugs.  The end result is media attention to a made up epidemic, more government control, and people in pain unable to get the drugs they need.  Thanks Congress for making my life miserable.

 
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  1. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: I donated and I forgot how to get the password. I am a moron. Don't worry I have no plans on becoming a vendor with my stupidity
  2. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: @st1ckyf1ng4z you're right of course. But being able to purchase with a debit card on a clearnet site with quality labs and low prices will be gone.
  3. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: Especially if they’re using mitragynine as the parent alk to make substitutes. I think it will affect plain leaf too at the very least it will not be as available as it’s been.
  4. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan @nameofuser11 That’s wild. But basic supply/demand tho, right? In my area all the leaf has been pulled off shelves,
  5. J @ j00ciiez: It sucks they're banning sr17. It seems to be a holy grail for many ppl.
  6. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: To clarify plain leaf kratom is not a part of this ban. Mitragynine might be fine. 7, psuedo,mgm15 and sr1708 are what are on the table to be banned most likely but hopefully just regulated.
  7. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z and yes , there are already indole alkoloids with tweaked scaffolding ready to take the place of 7/mgm, all with mitragynine as their parent alkoloid. The game of wack a mole starts the minute 7 is officially banned. Its 2013 K2 all over
  8. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan Also, it’s just a matter of time before another alternative pops up on the market anyway….
  9. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan I couldn’t agree more, bro. It’s fucked up. I recognize prices will rise, but it will always be available…. Stock up now while you can at least if you’re preferred read is opiates. As an ex-fentanyl addict I won’t ever touch any of that shit again. I remember when I started to see 7oh pop up, I knew it was going to end like this but I can understand getting rid of 7oh/mgm-15/16. With that being said, they should leave plain leaf alone!
  10. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z oh trust, i know that, im helping a pretty big vendor transition, to here and dnm , but prices are going to rise bc of risk. But availability is only part of this whole kratom alks situation. We have a serious problem with society. Last year alcohol killed 178,000 people, last year all other drugs combined killed 69,973 Out of those 38,084 were from opiate/opioids and out of those 0 were killed by 7oh. With these numbers we can see the problem with banning 7oh
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