Trying to find a source dor rhis or something similar - trusted vendors - currently resorting to 2MAP for research but not really liking it much the sites I use are out of stock wirh my fave. Any opiate RC shipped from USA or Canada would be great to know if . Please help here guys - tHaN‘x
@Kooter This are theories, just what I think could be the reason. So there are possibilities, the first one is the dr@g itself is toxic as it happened with BT.CP. Sometimes a structure will have an effect like causing cancer or being toxic to a particular type of cell and it's not known until testing is done. The other possibility is that a toxic impurity is being left on the final products. This one makes more sense to me since some people report doing fine with the dr@g. The classic example is MP.PP. The substance itself is fine, the problem is that if the reaction is carried out at temperatures over 30ºC MP-TP is formed, and MP-TP is incredibly toxic for dopaminergic neurons. This is a risk we take with every new chemical, the newer it is the greater the risk, and 2m@p had never been used, so it could be anything. Ac3tylF3ntanyl is ''safe'' because it uses the same synthesis as f3ntanyl except acetic anhydride is used instead of propanoic anhydride. It's always better to pick ch3micals that have some rese@rch behind them so we know they're not toxic.
@Kooter as Far as I can tell nothing people say it’s really strong but I’ve had multiple sources and it’s not I have noticed some side effects you know like in an appearance you can tell I’ve taken some kind of chemical where as with like Kratom you wouldn’t see that but I mean that’s kind of similar With most opiates you know it shows your show like a difference in appearance Sorta can tell I’ve taken something, it’s not that much like not that pronounced but that’s all I’ve noticed. Tramadol was a lot worse in terms of causing like an appearance where it looks like I have taken a chemical. I think most people just don’t know how to take it you have to mix it in water. I think they often snort it or they take the powder and eat it directly. It can’t be taken that way to get get a good effect same with ODMST. With ODMST if you make a water mixture that is too strong and not diluted enough it’ll give you like this rush where you think you’re going to have a seizure and die so the first time I tried it I thought it sucked but then I noticed when I poured more water into it (the bottle) because I have a medical condition and I needed something medical in order to go to work I noticed it actually works and it worked great so I think most people with that other one 2MAP Just aren’t taking it right because you have to put it in the water and make a diluted mixture. Too much at once will be ineffective and yeah It might give them a rush they feel like they’re gonna die, But as far as the Opiate effects , I don’t find that strong at all it’s just when taken the wrong way you get the strong kind of stimulating rush. I think that’s what it is people just don’t really know how to take it correctly in class a lot of people are probably snorting it and they comment on how much of burns and they use the term Caustic repeatedly and forums describing it. And I think people get that confused with toxic and I don’t see anything toxic about it at all I mean relatively speaking of course.
I’d say it’s safer than tramadol and more effective but it doesn’t last very long and people talk about tolerance building up fast but I don’t see it. I think it’s a lot better than any pharmaceutical I’ve taken , But I prefer ODMST.
Also I think they get it confused with a AP238 Which is a chemical similar I’ve heard you know it’s in the same class of drugs but I’ve never touched it never plan to. Just something about it I don’t wanna touch it so I think people act like they’re the same thing but they’re not. So that’s just my u no experience or whatever
@ontovzik:
When I had long term shingles, lasting two months. All he could give me was a 10 day supply of dilaudid. He looked at the ground while we were talking about it. I could tell he was ashamed but it was the legislature and the governor that tied his hands. He was very upset that non-medical political people, the media, and the scared public were controlling how he treated his patients. Someday those people will need meds and a hospital bed and they will be gone.
@ontovzik:
I had a great doctor, he had the true gift of a healer and he stayed on top of all the science. He straight up told me that for many people opiods work for managing short and long term pain.
@WTF7218:
@xenxra 😆😂. Yes, but only a few brave souls will ever find the number. You must first order a Dirty Shirley from the bartender. Then you must discreetly take the cocktail napkin from under your drink and unfold it. There you will find the map to the location of the phone number, and clues to decipher the code that it is written in.
@xenxra:
he left his phone number scribbled in a stall at the pub three blocks down
N@NYStateofMind:
I didnt really tell him but he knew I needed a new script since my dr went to jail
N@NYStateofMind:
@xenxra I was on Adderall since 15 years ago so my dr prescribed that w no problems and then when I lost my best friend my doctor rxed the valiums but
@xenxra:
@NYStateofMind my doctor's have always been pretty open minded if i can actually come in and explain the pharmacological action of the drugs im seeking instead of just telling them why i think i should be prescribed. the only time it didn't work out for me is when i was trying pharmaceuticals for depression ten years ago and suggested they let me try testosterone instead (turns out i was hypogonadal so they made a mistake denying my request at face value)
T@Testisthebest:
Even down here in Florida when the pill mill docs all switched over to Suboxone and/or retired you can still find some pretty liberal docs but you gotta know what to look for. Mine does "pain management, detox, anxiety,etc. And no insurance. My doc writes me 60 5mg Valium, 14 2mg Xanax and asked if I had ever tried adderal to get more focus at work as I told him I run my own business.
N@NYStateofMind:
@Alkazar do they know your history? Like I dont tell my doctor anything about myself except what they need to know,...I was able to get my dr to rx the highest dose of adderall along with valiums ..... if they dont know your history or there is no history I would just come out and ask what is the reason for their mistreatment.... they have no problem billing your insurance or taking a payment for the visit
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ontovzik:
When I had long term shingles, lasting two months. All he could give me was a 10 day supply of dilaudid. He looked at the ground while we were talking about it. I could tell he was ashamed but it was the legislature and the governor that tied his hands. He was very upset that non-medical political people, the media, and the scared public were controlling how he treated his patients. Someday those people will need meds and a hospital bed and they will be gone.
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WTF7218:
@xenxra 😆😂. Yes, but only a few brave souls will ever find the number. You must first order a Dirty Shirley from the bartender. Then you must discreetly take the cocktail napkin from under your drink and unfold it. There you will find the map to the location of the phone number, and clues to decipher the code that it is written in.
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xenxra:
he left his phone number scribbled in a stall at the pub three blocks down
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aBBazaBBa123:
@rockychoc How do I contact you?
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Alkazar:
@NYStateofMind I dont really have a history of abusing things, my docotr is just really stingy. I am thinking of switching.