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Also in the same boat. I’d buy a membership but I genuinely may need to save the $30 for shipping thanks to bare minimums from alleged suppliers.
 
I don’t like the zenes my researchers say it burns nasally but I need something like f3nt I’m a member also
 
I don’t like the zenes my researchers say it burns nasally but I need something like f3nt I’m a member also
I don’t know what you/they did, but that does not line up with my experiences at all.

Zenes are so potent and dosed so fucking low that there’s literally no way they can burn that badly. They’re not the same as xylazine (tranq) at all, which does burn.

There’s also multiple different kinds of them available, all dosed at less than 10mg, even if you’re using 5g of street F a day. Even injected I never experienced burning.

They aren’t something even the most extreme junkie can just snort a line of.

Source: been regularly using various nitazenes via multiple ROAs for multiple years.

You could try spirobrorphine, it’s not a zene and is around pure F potency (a few mg for even the most tolerant street user). That’s a hard one to locate though.
 
I don’t know what you/they did, but that does not line up with my experiences at all.

Zenes are so potent and dosed so fucking low that there’s literally no way they can burn that badly. They’re not the same as xylazine (tranq) at all, which does burn.

There’s also multiple different kinds of them available, all dosed at less than 10mg, even if you’re using 5g of street F a day. Even injected I never experienced burning.

They aren’t something even the most extreme junkie can just snort a line of.

Source: been regularly using various nitazenes via multiple ROAs for multiple years.

You could try spirobrorphine, it’s not a zene and is around pure F potency (a few mg for even the most tolerant street user). That’s a hard one to locate though.
Ok thanks
 
I don’t know what you/they did, but that does not line up with my experiences at all.

Zenes are so potent and dosed so fucking low that there’s literally no way they can burn that badly. They’re not the same as xylazine (tranq) at all, which does burn.

There’s also multiple different kinds of them available, all dosed at less than 10mg, even if you’re using 5g of street F a day. Even injected I never experienced burning.

They aren’t something even the most extreme junkie can just snort a line of.

Source: been regularly using various nitazenes via multiple ROAs for multiple years.

You could try spirobrorphine, it’s not a zene and is around pure F potency (a few mg for even the most tolerant street user). That’s a hard one to locate though.
When i bought xylazine It numbed my toung but that was HCl they reg does burn ppl tho
 
Having spent years being chemically dependent on opiates/opioids to function, I have had many a daydream about having a source of ultra-potent stuff that would keep me covered for months. I would save so much money. Have so much less stress related to scoring. And just have this sense of security for weeks or months knowing that the withdrawal monster isn't just hours away from catching me.

BUT

Aside from the extreme overdose danger of having something so potent around (not just dangerous for the user, but for anyone in your home who may come into contact with it - guests, kids, pets), the thing that gives me the most pause is this:

Untill your tolerance is jacked.

Dealing with an H addiction is bad enough. A fent addiction is nightmarish. But I cannot imagine the anxiety of having my tolerance shoot into the stratosphere while knowing that NOTHING would be able to help you when that supply runs out (unless you can source more of the same stuff that got you into that pit in the first place) - and it will run out or become unavailable one day.

I could tell myself "I won't let my use get out of hand. I will set a dose limit and never cross it" but I don't believe that for even a single second.

Fucking nitazenes.... why can't we just have some nice, warm-feeling novel opioid come out which is roughly the same strength as Oxy? Why do we have to get biological weapons instead of something actually usable? I think ODSMT is great stuff! I just would need something a bit stronger, not 10,000x stronger FFS.
 
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