Protonmail hack

[Starrysky]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to share that my protonmail was hacked a couple days ago and I didn't notice until after donating. The scammer emailed me back afterwards saying they had accidentally doubled my order and if i wanted to keep the extra i could just donate a little more and all would be well. Luckily I had read the previous posts here on dbg about this so I instantly knew not to send anything else and it was a scammer I was actually conversing with, not the vendor.

I also had two emails supposedly from DBG admin in my inbox saying a vendor had direct messaged me on the site with links to the message, they looked legit but i know not to ever click links so I came here to the site to check and there were no messages from that vendor here. Said Vendor later confirmed they had never contacted me.

Please be careful and take time to keep an eye out for anything that seems off or out of place. There's a few things I could have picked up on I realize now if I was paying closer attention. Also, don't freak out and delete everything in your inbox if you think you've been hacked. I did this not thinking and then realized I had deleted any information that would have helped us figure out more details about how it happened.

Ive switched to tuta mail now. Never touching proton again. the more I learn about them the more i see they're full of it.

I hope this helps someone not make the same mistakes. Everyone stay safe out there!

 

[The Crow]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to share that my protonmail was hacked a couple days ago and I didn't notice until after donating. The scammer emailed me back afterwards saying they had accidentally doubled my order and if i wanted to keep the extra i could just donate a little more and all would be well. Luckily I had read the previous posts here on dbg about this so I instantly knew not to send anything else and it was a scammer I was actually conversing with, not the vendor.

I also had two emails supposedly from DBG admin in my inbox saying a vendor had direct messaged me on the site with links to the message, they looked legit but i know not to ever click links so I came here to the site to check and there were no messages from that vendor here. Said Vendor later confirmed they had never contacted me.

Please be careful and take time to keep an eye out for anything that seems off or out of place. There's a few things I could have picked up on I realize now if I was paying closer attention. Also, don't freak out and delete everything in your inbox if you think you've been hacked. I did this not thinking and then realized I had deleted any information that would have helped us figure out more details about how it happened.

Ive switched to tuta mail now. Never touching proton again. the more I learn about them the more i see they're full of it.

I hope this helps someone not make the same mistakes. Everyone stay safe out there!

This EXACT same thing happened to me, Unfortunately I didn't know and got scammed. So Very Thankful you posted this, I suppose I'll be needing to apologize to the Vendor. Going to get a new email as we speak. Blessings

 

[Starrysky]

Oh man, I'm so sorry you went through this too! It's a bitch and really feels so violating. Not just because of the money but the privacy invasion. Scammers suck. I hope things look up for you in this situation and things work out with your vendor. Stay safe!

 

[bitwise]

I was a target of a phishing campaign on Protonmail just today... I received an email appearing to come from Protonmail asking me to click on a button to verify my Protonmail address. Upon further inspection I noticed it was actually sent from some fake address (e.g., email@avxi-yz.com), obviously NOT associated with Proton.

 

[Gracie5]

This is not new. It’s been happening since last summer.
Please see this thread:
Thread 'Warning to all members and vendors'
https://drugbuyersguide.info/threads/warning-to-all-members-and-vendors.10401/

 

[The Crow]

This is not new. It’s been happening since last summer.
Please see this thread:
Thread 'Warning to all members and vendors'
https://drugbuyersguide.info/threads/warning-to-all-members-and-vendors.10401/

I hate to come in here and bother you but I used 2 different vendors and got scammed. So I got new emails and I don't post here on the vendors I use, I was told this helps scammers figure out who you are using. So I have been very careful. I've been debating on what to do as I need to find a new vendor but I need to speak up about how to deal with the scam. I have been using 2 different vendors, one is having issues and I started using the other more. I made a rather large order, I don't use protonmail but they do. I made my donation and then I just waited for the tracking. They did not send the tracking so I inquired. I asked about my order and they said hang on I'll get back to you. I don't think it should have been easy to forget, it took them a few hours and how they could forget when they came back and said I had repeatedly asked for a refund. I did not ask for a refund. So they said I must have been hacked and they gave the refund and it was not their fault. They said if I had a problem take it up with the Admins on DBG. I'm very upset.

I see others warning that if you get emails from your vendor to check so you don't get scammed, like if you get scammed and you do not check the vendor it's your fault. So I'm trying to see how this is my fault, I don't see how I could have gotten hacked and I do not think it was right for the vendor to do a refund. If that is actually true. It was a lot of money and I can't imagine them wanting to lose it. I have taken every precaution with my emails, I do not leave reviews on here and I feel bad about that but I lost too much money. I guess it comes down to whose fault is it? Anymore a Vendor can say this kind of thing and we are out of luck. I just throw up my hands and say Ok well the Vendor says this happened so I just loose the money and have no meds.

I just thought it is a very bad problem and the Vendors are on here, the one I used told me to go the Admin before I said anything about DBG etc. I said I thought it was a half and half to blame. They said no and that was it. I'd appreciate any advice or thoughts about what can be done about this. I know better than to believe the "I sent a double order so can you send this amount to this BTC Address" I have asked vendors to message on here to confirm the orders and after a couple they say their is no reason to. If this vendor had sent me a message on here then he would have known. He also has another email address to contact me and did not do so. He said he never remembered getting it. I'd appreciate any advice or even prevention on this happening again. It has to stop. I feel like a recluse due to avoiding being scammed. Thank you for your time.

 

[Gracie5]

I hate to come in here and bother you but I used 2 different vendors and got scammed. So I got new emails and I don't post here on the vendors I use, I was told this helps scammers figure out who you are using. So I have been very careful. I've been debating on what to do as I need to find a new vendor but I need to speak up about how to deal with the scam. I have been using 2 different vendors, one is having issues and I started using the other more. I made a rather large order, I don't use protonmail but they do. I made my donation and then I just waited for the tracking. They did not send the tracking so I inquired. I asked about my order and they said hang on I'll get back to you. I don't think it should have been easy to forget, it took them a few hours and how they could forget when they came back and said I had repeatedly asked for a refund. I did not ask for a refund. So they said I must have been hacked and they gave the refund and it was not their fault. They said if I had a problem take it up with the Admins on DBG. I'm very upset.

I see others warning that if you get emails from your vendor to check so you don't get scammed, like if you get scammed and you do not check the vendor it's your fault. So I'm trying to see how this is my fault, I don't see how I could have gotten hacked and I do not think it was right for the vendor to do a refund. If that is actually true. It was a lot of money and I can't imagine them wanting to lose it. I have taken every precaution with my emails, I do not leave reviews on here and I feel bad about that but I lost too much money. I guess it comes down to whose fault is it? Anymore a Vendor can say this kind of thing and we are out of luck. I just throw up my hands and say Ok well the Vendor says this happened so I just loose the money and have no meds.

I just thought it is a very bad problem and the Vendors are on here, the one I used told me to go the Admin before I said anything about DBG etc. I said I thought it was a half and half to blame. They said no and that was it. I'd appreciate any advice or thoughts about what can be done about this. I know better than to believe the "I sent a double order so can you send this amount to this BTC Address" I have asked vendors to message on here to confirm the orders and after a couple they say their is no reason to. If this vendor had sent me a message on here then he would have known. He also has another email address to contact me and did not do so. He said he never remembered getting it. I'd appreciate any advice or even prevention on this happening again. It has to stop. I feel like a recluse due to avoiding being scammed. Thank you for your time.

No one has implied anyone is at fault. There are several scenarios that the hacker uses, and vendors have largely gone above and beyond to help clients.
Not all vendors are still here. This began a year ago and there are multiple warnings in the site.
I’m not sure what you are implying. I’m sorry you were hacked. That means that either you or your vendor had contact with a hacked individual. As I said, there are several scenarios used and no proof it’s one individual. This has happened in the past as well, which is documented in the main warning, that’s from the end of last summer.
Most members and vendors have been affected.
I don’t know which vendor you are referring to, nor what is being implied.
Perhaps a DM might better explain what is needed.

@Admin

 

[The Crow]

No one has implied anyone is at fault. There are several scenarios that the hacker uses, and vendors have largely gone above and beyond to help clients.
Not all vendors are still here. This began a year ago and there are multiple warnings in the site.
I’m not sure what you are implying. I’m sorry you were hacked. That means that either you or your vendor had contact with a hacked individual. As I said, there are several scenarios used and no proof it’s one individual. This has happened in the past as well, which is documented in the main warning, that’s from the end of last summer.
Most members and vendors have been affected.
I don’t know which vendor you are referring to, nor what is being implied.
Perhaps a DM might better explain what is needed.

@Admin

Thank you for your reply, I can't DM you. I don't know how hacking works but if he claims he got emails from me that I did not see then we both got hacked right? And I see this happened to somebody esle and nothing was done. They said the Vendor never takes any blame or helps at all. My nerves are shot. I have gotten a new email. I didn't have protonmail before. He does. I ordered from another Vendor with good reviews, it says 24 to 48 shipping and I paid Overnight. A week later and he answered last night saying he'd been sick. I'm sorry to complain but all this money going out and I'm going to be getting seizures, my Neurologist won't increase my dosage. Thank you for all you do.

 

[LW815]

Thank you for your reply, I can't DM you. I don't know how hacking works but if he claims he got emails from me that I did not see then we both got hacked right? And I see this happened to somebody esle and nothing was done. They said the Vendor never takes any blame or helps at all. My nerves are shot. I have gotten a new email. I didn't have protonmail before. He does. I ordered from another Vendor with good reviews, it says 24 to 48 shipping and I paid Overnight. A week later and he answered last night saying he'd been sick. I'm sorry to complain but all this money going out and I'm going to be getting seizures, my Neurologist won't increase my dosage. Thank you for all you do.

If you weren’t using pr0ton or another encrypted service that very well may have been your problem(reason you got compromised). Sending from an unencrypted email is a bad idea for many reasons, but besides l£gal reasons your own security is #1. An unencrypted email means anybody who is interested and has the(pretty simple) means to do so can intercept what you’re sending and from the sounds of it your email got found out, compromised, and used against you to get somebody to send your funds sent to an author back to them under the guise it was you. It’s been quite a while and a lot of things have changed but I used to know a lot about IT and my teacher was always big on emphasizing the fact that nothing you do online is safe unless you take the proper precautions yourself to ensure you are. Emails, even encrypted ones, are fairly easy to compromise and inject yourself into without the actual owner of the address ever knowing you were there. If you signed up for this site with a regular address and use that same one to communicate I’d say with almost 100% certainty that’s how this all happened. And if that is the case nobody is really at fault here, other than yourself(I’m not blaming you for it happening, though) and you can’t hold it against anybody. Shitty and unfortunate, and losing a large sum for sure fucking sucks but there really isn’t anything anybody can do about it if it’s your own security(or lack of) that caused it to happen.

I’d highly suggest reading up on and implementing some online safety features and end-to-end encryption email/messaging services and learn how to check your own network for unrecognized traffic, and depending on if you can detect anything possibly ask your ISP about changing your IP. I doubt it’s that deep, though. Whatever device you used I would stop using, get a secure email and a good! reputable VPN(avoid free ones, and despite using pr0ton mail I’d advise against their VPN) and make sure all of your accounts have strong passwords and it should prevent it from happening again.

 

[Gracie5]

Thank you for your reply, I can't DM you. I don't know how hacking works but if he claims he got emails from me that I did not see then we both got hacked right? And I see this happened to somebody esle and nothing was done. They said the Vendor never takes any blame or helps at all. My nerves are shot. I have gotten a new email. I didn't have protonmail before. He does. I ordered from another Vendor with good reviews, it says 24 to 48 shipping and I paid Overnight. A week later and he answered last night saying he'd been sick. I'm sorry to complain but all this money going out and I'm going to be getting seizures, my Neurologist won't increase my dosage. Thank you for all you do.

I’m sorry things are starting out so roughly. They will turn around. There’s a big learning curve and then you have to deal with outside issues that are no fault of yours.
You have to be a donating member to DM. Donating does open more doors, typically much faster doors.
Here’s how to donate:

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Thread 'How to donate to the forum.'

May 26, 2017

Unfortunately I'm not able anymore to answer the many emails i receive how to donate to the forum.

PayPal has frozen our account after some members found it necessary to do a charge back for $10

So do not ask anymore for PayPal or any other credit card payment it will not happen.

The only option on this moment is Bitcoins. Please do not ask anymore for other options.

Good site to buy Bitcoins in Europe

https://bit4coin.net/

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[The Crow]

If you weren’t using pr0ton or another encrypted service that very well may have been your problem(reason you got compromised). Sending from an unencrypted email is a bad idea for many reasons, but besides l£gal reasons your own security is #1. An unencrypted email means anybody who is interested and has the(pretty simple) means to do so can intercept what you’re sending and from the sounds of it your email got found out, compromised, and used against you to get somebody to send your funds sent to an author back to them under the guise it was you. It’s been quite a while and a lot of things have changed but I used to know a lot about IT and my teacher was always big on emphasizing the fact that nothing you do online is safe unless you take the proper precautions yourself to ensure you are. Emails, even encrypted ones, are fairly easy to compromise and inject yourself into without the actual owner ofwell the address ever knowing you were there. If you signed up for this site with a regular address and use that same one to communicate I’d say with almost 100% certainty that’s how this all happened. And if that is the case nobody is really at fault here, other than yourself(I’m not blaming you for it happening, though) and you can’t hold it against anybody. Shitty and unfortunate, and losing a large sum for sure fucking sucks but there really isn’t anything anybody can do about it if it’s your own security(or lack of) that caused it to happen.

I’d highly suggest reading up on and implementing some online safety features and end-to-end encryption email/messaging services and learn how to check your own network for unrecognized traffic, and depending on if you can detect anything possibly ask your ISP about changing your IP. I doubt it’s that deep, though. Whatever device you used I would stop using, get a secure email and a good! reputable VPN(avoid free ones, and despite using pr0ton mail I’d advise against their VPN) and make sure all of your accounts have strong passwords and it should prevent it from happening again.

I do not think you read it very well I look new on here cause i took a new username kiddo, I dont post out of prevention, I been doing this 20 years and they call it the protonmail hack and you claim that may have been one of the reasons...... not having protonmail. Please refrain from giving me advice or responding I have seen your other posts too. I am not interested Good Luck in Life

 

[The Crow]

I’m sorry things are starting out so roughly. They will turn around. There’s a big learning curve and then you have to deal with outside issues that are no fault of yours.
You have to be a donating member to DM. Donating does open more doors, typically much faster doors.
Here’s how to donate:

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Thread 'How to donate to the forum.'

May 26, 2017

Unfortunately I'm not able anymore to answer the many emails i receive how to donate to the forum.

PayPal has frozen our account after some members found it necessary to do a charge back for $10

So do not ask anymore for PayPal or any other credit card payment it will not happen.

The only option on this moment is Bitcoins. Please do not ask anymore for other options.

Good site to buy Bitcoins in Europe

https://bit4coin.net/

How to donate via Bitcoin

Bitcoin (BTC) is a decentralised digital currency that can be transferred almost instantly and securely between...

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I am not new to this I got a new username/email to prevent scams My point is no matter who gets hacked the vendor never has to pay, just the buyer

 

[Mammasboi123]

Thank you for your reply, I can't DM you. I don't know how hacking works but if he claims he got emails from me that I did not see then we both got hacked right? And I see this happened to somebody esle and nothing was done. They said the Vendor never takes any blame or helps at all. My nerves are shot. I have gotten a new email. I didn't have protonmail before. He does. I ordered from another Vendor with good reviews, it says 24 to 48 shipping and I paid Overnight. A week later and he answered last night saying he'd been sick. I'm sorry to complain but all this money going out and I'm going to be getting seizures, my Neurologist won't increase my dosage. Thank you for all you do.

I am not new to this I got a new username/email to prevent scams My point is no matter who gets hacked the vendor never has to pay, just the buyer

Read up on the thread that Gracie pointed you to. It will explain most of what’s been happening with scammers using misleading Display Names or very close email addresses to mimic real vendors and to trick individuals into sending them $$.

No vendor’s email has been “hacked” AFAIK. Whether or not your email was “hacked”, only you can know for certain (in reality your password was likely phished).

Unfortunately, the only person who can keep you from being scammed is YOU.
No one on DBG, or any other platform, can stop you from conversing with a scammer. All we can do as a community is to give each other warnings and helpful tips to identify red flags that are almost always utilized by a scammer.

There’s also things you can do to minimize the chances of a scammer knowing your email address like you mentioned. But at the end of the day, it’s our responsibility to do our own due diligence before sending $ to another person.

-MB

 

[LW815]

I do not think you read it very well I look new on here cause i took a new username kiddo, I dont post out of prevention, I been doing this 20 years and they call it the protonmail hack and you claim that may have been one of the reasons...... not having protonmail. Please refrain from giving me advice or responding I have seen your other posts too. I am not interested Good Luck in Life

Dude I already knew who you were, Jax1989, and each time I’ve commented useful information to your arrogant, uninformed posts you proceed to attack me like I’m slandering you when I’m trying to help. But fuck that, let your dumbass continue to get scammed. Yes it’s called the protonmail hack, which isn’t a hack, and it’s only targeted for proton because all the “hackers” originate from this forum or others like it and know it’s the most common email used. The only relation it has to proton mail and hacking is
dumbasses like you that click random phishing links and get their email compromised, then come on here crying that protonmail was hacked. But no, YOU were ‘hacked’ by, pure and simple, your own stupidity. The fact that you do or don’t have a protonmail account is somewhat besides the point, I only mentioned it because you said you DIDNT use one before and I pointed out that your sent emails wouldn’t be encrypted, unless you’re using another end-to-end encrypted email service, which I doubt because I can’t detect any intelligence radiating off of you. But while you’re clung to the name “protonmail hack”, it isn’t the only possible platform that can be infiltrated. I’m guessing y@hoo, gm@il or whatever your original email platform used was a much easier target. And based off your super-duper-sly, completely unidentifiable alias that definitely isn’t complaining about the same exact issue that a user named Jax1989 was having with a very specific person and case, I can only imagine how hard of a target you would be given that you definitely 100% cover your tracks. And no, Jax, before you say some other wild, dumb shit I’m not the one who “hacked” you. Just pointing out that by 100% random encounter from just interacting on the forum that I happened upon your original issue, that you for some reason posted in a completely unrelated authors thread. Then out of boredom some time later was scrolling through new posts and saw what you’d posted in here, on your new account, and immediately made the connection between the two accounts. Not sure if you actually think it was even mildly difficult to put 2+2 together there, but it wasn’t. Not even a little bit. And you literally laid all the information out in case any interested party wasn’t already 100% you were who they were watching, like this is some super secret club that isn’t 1000000% the hunting grounds of the ‘hacker’ you fell victim to.

I could make the same claim about hotmail when I have to call my grandmas bank to freeze her account and do a full wipe on her PC 4-8x a year when she clicks on the same phishing link that she proceeds to enter her bank account information in every time. The great hotmail hack of 2003-2025 holy shit how is it still ongoing? Because people are stupid and can’t identify a malicious link. You can’t expect an author to pay you back when your own lack of security, intelligence, technical literacy and overall safety features are 100% at fault. YOUR email was compromised, used against you to trick the author to send your money to their wallet, and left without a trace. As far as the vendor knows, he sent the money to you. Nobody knows who this 3rd party is and without investigating the block chain yourself nobody is going to know where the money went. Even if you had the know how to track it, I’d be willing to bet that it immediately got tumbled at least a few times and you wouldn’t be able to trace it if you wanted to.

I gave you sound advice, which after your previous insults to me you 100% didn’t even deserve but I’m not a dick and I believe everybody should know how to use the internet at least somewhat safely, especially in this manner, because I don’t like seeing shit like this happen to people. But based off your arrogance and hostility toward somebody simply trying to help you prevent it from happening again, I fully believe that you’re just a massive douche who’s getting a triple dose of well-deserved karma thrown at you for treating people(who already had no reason to help you after your last outburst) like shit for no reason.

And please don’t make Sons of Anarchy referenced threats at me again. We’re about the same age, that shit was laughable and cringy to say the least. You don’t know me and have no idea what I do. But I know that any “biker badasses” that quote their favorite show as SOA and still talk about it daily years after it ended that I’ve gotten into a real brawl with didn’t pack the punches(or heat) they claimed. And surprisingly none of them had a gang to back them up, which makes it somewhat unfair when to pull up 40 deep just to see one guy on a shitty, hand sprayed Harley that looks like it got ran over by a tractor trailer. Doesn’t even have a pi£ce on him. Makes me sad enough to put the .4O back under the seat.

Was the tractor trailer joke too soon? The show ended years ago. Stop making it your identity, it’s weird and you probably can’t even fight. And your shitty Walmart Knife you carry on your hip isn’t even full-tang, the handle and blade are connected by a shitty piece of metal coated by plastic inside the handle and it easily snaps with light force. You’re in your mid-30s, buy a real knife.

 

[jax1982]

I am not new to this I got a new username/email to prevent scams My point is no matter who gets hacked the vendor never has to pay, just the buyer

Read up on the thread that Gracie pointed you to. It will explain most of what’s been happening with scammers using misleading Display Names or very close email addresses to mimic real vendors and to trick individuals into sending them $$.

No vendor’s email has been “hacked” AFAIK. Whether or not your email was “hacked”, only you can know for certain (in reality your password was likely phished).

Unfortunately, the only person who can keep you from being scammed is YOU.
No one on DBG, or any other platform, can stop you from conversing with a scammer. All we can do as a community is to give each other warnings and helpful tips to identify red flags that are almost always utilized by a scammer.

There’s also things you can do to minimize the chances of a scammer knowing your email address like you mentioned. But at the end of the day, it’s our responsibility to do our own due diligence before sending $ to another person.

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Ok I'm going to help this conversation, BIG C has been a DBG friend for years as we share a love of The Crow. As was pointed out Big C knows DBG, just looks new in the effort to avoid scammers and is low on meds and was never much of a talker.

(Oh and C, I am ROFL as Yes some people should stay out of things and not give advice, that person is everywhere and they never truly leave an actual review)
Gracie & Mamma you are both very kind. Thank you for trying to give a bit of simple encouragement. I'm always trying to keep feelings and opinions to a minimum, try to stick to facts.

So I know C is low on meds and having trouble explaining, we had a chat after we used the same vendor who gave our money to scammers, can't quite agree that is all our fault, before that C got a new username here and new encrypted emails after the first scammers slipped into the email right at the end of a transaction with A FALSE BTC ADDRESS and the actual vendor was not paid. C's super careful, as am I I gotta say Mamma you got some great points but we couldn't stop a vendor from giving scammers our money after he got requests for refunds FROM THEM.
HE didn't do his homework, didn't check with us as mine was basically Hi I am paying, I paid, sent details on the order, reciept, and he claims five minutes later he gets an email that it was a mistake and I want a refund. Seriously? He had 2 email addys, didn't use the MAIN ONE and he says it was brief and so am I. There's alot more obvious mistakes etc, the biggest order I'd ever placed with him and now he has customers getting requests from his email asking if they wan to order.

Due to a long hospital stay from a cluster f*ck of all the wrong meds, I was away & unaware, until the right meds were given for injuries from the Coast Guard 20 years ago And then a driver not seeing my man and I on a Beautiful, Custom Harley 15 years ago, So I've had to do the constant search for reliable meds. I hadn't been on here for awhile I had an awesome vendor who didn't take new customers,
then I had a good doc for a bit who had to go on leave with Terminal Cancer, then I get this young jerk who I can tell does not want to write my list of controlled substances. He said you don't really need this many every month do you, and I am blunt so I screwed up and said "No but I fill them and stock up because of the current witch hunt and new regulations, you never know"

He looked shocked, he was maybe 25. He said I'm cutting the amounts in half. Such an idiot I had to explain my head injuries gave me terrible seizures if I did not take that amount of benzo medicine as prescribed. I was like and I'm sure you know withdrawals from the Benzo/Seizure Meds would give me other seizures. (He even wanted to give me less Lidocaine Patches!!) It was bad enuf I was on the same dosage for 15 years, cause "Oh My it's addictive" (eye roll) and I had been on them everyday for over 20yrs. So like hint doc, read my file!!

The previous doc had to explain The Stronger Benzo, the X bars were to try to put me to sleep when I got
horrific Migraines, Migraines that are/were so bad that there are over 10 areas in my brain that are damaged from the migraines over the years. And the pain puts my BP thru the roof, A Neurologist I had for a bit would give me Morphine tablets. These worked better for my migraines than my other pain meds,The only "cure" was to sleep. I stocked those Morphine tablets up too. And I had taken one of those tablets a month or so prior to getting my new doc.

Being on controlled substances I had to take my pee drug tests and my original doc ignored the Morphine that showed up in my tests once in awhile despite it being a 2 year old prescription, she didn't care that I'd saved some. It seems they should be happier you weren't abusing them.

For instance I took Kpins 3 times a day for Seizures, I can NOT fill the prescription until the day before I am going to run out. And they can't transfer the script. So if I didn't have extra meds I wouldn't be able to travel or go camping if it was the day I was going to need my refill for my seizure meds. Sorry I had to share. No last minute plans if it's near refill day. It's all ridiculous.

So my next visit my new doc says he can't write my scripts because I broke my contract I had 2 controlled substance violations One with that previous drug test and "abusing" meds by getting refills when I wasn't out of the meds. And the idiot I have 20 years on a Benzo he suggests 2 mild seizure meds that didn't work for me, it was in my file. I was like I'll get the Benzo's from my Neurologist, he's VERY experienced. And I couldn't help saying "you may save lives, but I was younger than you when I DID save lives but I risked my own life to do it" I'm not normally cocky but....

So not being on here for awhile I came back on and it didn't take long to lose a couple thousand dollars to scams. So I got careful and used various vendors with no issue until the refund thing. I only have the vendors explanation.
Being Careful I've sent DM's to Vendor's on here to double check..I have precautions and they can take them also. A couple on here have great systems to eliminate scams. I wanted to help Big C to explain and also kinda get past the thinking that it's just a new member? Experienced and used to always be helpful but now Big C won't even leave reviews to prevent scams. And much more, The Point being made on scams it was partly a statement about a Vendor having to being held accountable for their actions. Sort of a comparison Back in the day if a shipment was seized it was just part of doing business this way
and most vendors would re-ship at least half. A lot of the Vendors did not practice enough stealth and I feel that the customer shouldn't be alone in that loss of meds and money. I feel as Big C does, this is not just a customer being sloppy so Oh Well they are just Screwed with Ongoing Scams, Vendors need to step up also. Take Care All I did keep my long explanation mostly facts. I've seen a lot of opinions we need more solutions. Peace!

 

[jax1982]

Dude I already knew who you were, Jax1989, and each time I’ve commented useful information to your arrogant, uninformed posts you proceed to attack me like I’m slandering you when I’m trying to help. But fuck that, let your dumbass continue to get scammed. Yes it’s called the protonmail hack, which isn’t a hack, and it’s only targeted for proton because all the “hackers” originate from this forum or others like it and know it’s the most common email used. The only relation it has to proton mail and hacking is
dumbasses like you that click random phishing links and get their email compromised, then come on here crying that protonmail was hacked. But no, YOU were ‘hacked’ by, pure and simple, your own stupidity. The fact that you do or don’t have a protonmail account is somewhat besides the point, I only mentioned it because you said you DIDNT use one before and I pointed out that your sent emails wouldn’t be encrypted, unless you’re using another end-to-end encrypted email service, which I doubt because I can’t detect any intelligence radiating off of you. But while you’re clung to the name “protonmail hack”, it isn’t the only possible platform that can be infiltrated. I’m guessing y@hoo, gm@il or whatever your original email platform used was a much easier target. And based off your super-duper-sly, completely unidentifiable alias that definitely isn’t complaining about the same exact issue that a user named Jax1989 was having with a very specific person and case, I can only imagine how hard of a target you would be given that you definitely 100% cover your tracks. And no, Jax, before you say some other wild, dumb shit I’m not the one who “hacked” you. Just pointing out that by 100% random encounter from just interacting on the forum that I happened upon your original issue, that you for some reason posted in a completely unrelated authors thread. Then out of boredom some time later was scrolling through new posts and saw what you’d posted in here, on your new account, and immediately made the connection between the two accounts. Not sure if you actually think it was even mildly difficult to put 2+2 together there, but it wasn’t. Not even a little bit. And you literally laid all the information out in case any interested party wasn’t already 100% you were who they were watching, like this is some super secret club that isn’t 1000000% the hunting grounds of the ‘hacker’ you fell victim to.

I could make the same claim about hotmail when I have to call my grandmas bank to freeze her account and do a full wipe on her PC 4-8x a year when she clicks on the same phishing link that she proceeds to enter her bank account information in every time. The great hotmail hack of 2003-2025 holy shit how is it still ongoing? Because people are stupid and can’t identify a malicious link. You can’t expect an author to pay you back when your own lack of security, intelligence, technical literacy and overall safety features are 100% at fault. YOUR email was compromised, used against you to trick the author to send your money to their wallet, and left without a trace. As far as the vendor knows, he sent the money to you. Nobody knows who this 3rd party is and without investigating the block chain yourself nobody is going to know where the money went. Even if you had the know how to track it, I’d be willing to bet that it immediately got tumbled at least a few times and you wouldn’t be able to trace it if you wanted to.

I gave you sound advice, which after your previous insults to me you 100% didn’t even deserve but I’m not a dick and I believe everybody should know how to use the internet at least somewhat safely, especially in this manner, because I don’t like seeing shit like this happen to people. But based off your arrogance and hostility toward somebody simply trying to help you prevent it from happening again, I fully believe that you’re just a massive douche who’s getting a triple dose of well-deserved karma thrown at you for treating people(who already had no reason to help you after your last outburst) like shit for no reason.

And please don’t make Sons of Anarchy referenced threats at me again. We’re about the same age, that shit was laughable and cringy to say the least. You don’t know me and have no idea what I do. But I know that any “biker badasses” that quote their favorite show as SOA and still talk about it daily years after it ended that I’ve gotten into a real brawl with didn’t pack the punches(or heat) they claimed. And surprisingly none of them had a gang to back them up, which makes it somewhat unfair when to pull up 40 deep just to see one guy on a shitty, hand sprayed Harley that looks like it got ran over by a tractor trailer. Doesn’t even have a pi£ce on him. Makes me sad enough to put the .4O back under the seat.

Was the tractor trailer joke too soon? The show ended years ago. Stop making it your identity, it’s weird and you probably can’t even fight. And your shitty Walmart Knife you carry on your hip isn’t even full-tang, the handle and blade are connected by a shitty piece of m etal coated by plastic inside the handle and it easily snaps with light force. You’re in your mid-30s, buy a real knife.

Goodness Darlin, You sure are worked up. I wrote a simple reply to 2 other people about myself and a friend. No reason to throw a tantrum. Now Big C may have hurt your feelings or me leaving you out, this is why Big C asked you to stay away. You have chaotic rants, I don't have the time to read this nor do I care to. I see nonsense, SOA, A Real Knife? Simmer Down Detective Camel Toe.

Wait, you got my name wrong lol. But that's ok you just forget it altogether hon! Anyway I nicely made a comment awhile ago about us using different vendors and you not bumping into me, well at this point stalking me. Your posts don't make sense, they are jumbled and there's nothing important. I have left reviews for 3 vendors recently, I never see facts, you actually giving hard facts about Vendors. That's why we don't want your jumbled nonsense. I knew Big C would not like your style and was blunt with you. You need another hobby, try writing poems. And just one last thing, I mean it from the bottom of my Heart, if you Ever address Me again, Do It In Person, Truly.

 

[LW815]

Goodness Darlin, You sure are worked up. I wrote a simple reply to 2 other people about myself and a friend. No reason to throw a tantrum. Now Big C may have hurt your feelings or me leaving you out, this is why Big C asked you to stay away. You have chaotic rants, I don't have the time to read this nor do I care to. I see SOA, A Real Knife? Simmer Down Detective Camel Toe, Lol and you got my name wrong. Anyway I nicely made a comment awhile ago about well at this point stalking me. Your posts don't make sense, they are jumbled and there's nothing important. I have left reviews

Buddy do you think I’m a female or something? Is the reason your responses are so dumb is because all the blood floods to your dick when you see my pfp? It’s a random screenshot from TikTok I took by mistake on my old phone, thought it was hilarious given the content and made it my pic. You’ve referenced me multiple times as “Harley Quinn” and like to call me darling. I’m a dude. A large one, at that. Sorry to ruin your fantasy of talking down to a woman on the internet, I feel bad for your wife. My memory may be shit enough to not remember the exact number in your name but I was close enough to get you to log back in and pretend that “Big C” as you call it is somebody other than you. And it’s good enough to remember you making weird Harley Quinn and Joker references after posting your nonsensical rant in Rocky’s thread when your issue was with Alex. Btw, all I said then was that you were in the wrong thread, and you again got hostile about it. Maybe hostile isn’t the right word - passive aggressive?

You say my posts are jumbled messes of useless information but also say you won’t and don’t have time to read them. Even in the last one where I was essentially shit talking you the whole time I still provided useful information despite knowing I shouldn’t waste my breath on you cause it just falls on deaf, ignorant ears. You clearly have some issues so I still tried to politely respond originally with info you needed to hear, but you don’t care enough to listen because it’s not a solution on how to get your money back from an unknown scammer that tricked an author into sending your funds to him via access to your own email account. The answer is nothing can be done, unless the author finds it in the goodness of his heart to pay you out of his own pocket. Or, like I also said, you can manage to track where the coins went on the blockchain. But I know you don’t know how to do so, and I doubt you could even figure out which tr@ns@ct¡on eyeD/hash was associated with the original coin sent, if you even know what that means.

Long story short, your own lack of technical knowledge is the sole reason behind you losing your money, and nothing can be done about it. There’s warnings all over the site that you clearly didn’t see(more likely didn’t care/“have time” to read) and my attempts at further explaining how and why it happened and tips on preventing future reoccurrences were met with “be gone with you” because you’re holding onto a a beef with no grounds because I told you Rocky’s thread wasn’t the place to shit talk an unrelated author and another member who was simply spreading useful information about preventing scams. Maybe if you’d actually read the scam prevention tips and took your head out of the final 3 feet of your large intestine you wouldn’t be in this position.

But sure, I’m clearly stalking you, let’s go with that. Not like you posted in 2 threads that pop up in my notifications because I frequent them, one of which started your drama with me where I was just trying to prevent a shit storm from happening in somebody’s thread that had nothing to do with your issue, where you also attacked another member who likely doesn’t even know who the fuck you are. Also not like we’re on a (mostly) public forum that I obviously frequent and post on often, usually in the wee hours of the morning when most people are asleep so when I hit the ‘new posts’ button and find your dumbass posting the same shit under a different name I find it comical yet still tried to help.

You say my posts make no sense, I say you lack the intelligence or brain power to read a few coherent paragraphs. Yet for some reason decide to post your entire life story and medical history that nobody needs to know, cares about, is relevant in any way, and also a good way to identify you irl based off all the information you gave. You say you don’t post often to be “preventative” but then wrote an autobiography nobody asked for and posted it publicly for everybody to see. Not that there’s a ton of information there, but there’s enough to go on if somebody was interested.

Also just want to throw out that I know that Alex is upstanding and honest. I had a minor issue with one order where I was sent some mags of questionable legitimacy and didn’t email him about them for weeks as that’s how long it took before my girlfriend read one and became unwell, and he issued a refund for the small incorrect portion we’d received with no proof other than my own word. Convo went something like “hey, what are these? They definitely don’t seem like the reading material they’re supposed to be as my girl is a seasoned, daily reader of this msg and has never had a react like this - she’s very unwell. (A) - I’m sorry, I haven’t received this complaint before. (He then confused and thought it was about a previous order) but once we were on the same page he offered condolences and said the supplier must’ve gave him a bad batch. It took some digging, but found a pic of the same thing on drvgsd@t@ from 2023 in the area my magazine originated from that tested + for Eff and Four-/AN_peepee. He offered a refund no other questions asked before even showing him the results I found, at first in the form of discounts on future purchase but after an exchange where I mentioned I likely wouldn’t take the risk again and would go elsewhere and needed it that day preferably for another order he promptly sent back the portion for the bad magazines. For many reasons I knew it was a bad idea, so never really expected a yes regardless, but I offered to send him back the questionable ones and he politely declined and just sent my money. Which was then sent to and held up for 2-3 weeks by DolorCero, who is now on the black list I believe, but miraculously I was one of the few he refunded being going full MIA.

I haven’t been around here long and I’m new to the online world of small time articles and novellas and comics and all but no stranger to any of it in general, a little more than 2/3 of my life has consistent of this area one way or another. It’s simple, I got with the times and I’m technically inclined enough to make this work well and I read people and situations well enough that I’ve avoided losing anything whatsoever thus far. To rat brain it for you - me no losey money even though I’m new. with that I’ll bid you adieu, I see no point in continuing to beat a dead horse. I just have a lot of (paid) free time so spend a lot of time browsing the forum. While I’m no staff member and never claim to be, I try to help where I can - which includes your case but you can’t help somebody who doesn’t listen so attempt over. I’ll happily leave any unfoundedly hostile or insulting responses left unanswered if do choose to continue talking. Have the life you deserve. Can’t imagine it’d be good.

 

[The Crow]

Dude I already knew who you were, Jax1989, and each time I’ve commented useful information to your arrogant, uninformed posts you proceed to attack me like I’m slandering you when I’m trying to help. But fuck that, let your dumbass continue to get scammed. Yes it’s called the protonmail hack, which isn’t a hack, and it’s only targeted for proton because all the “hackers” originate from this forum or others like it and know it’s the most common email used. The only relation it has to proton mail and hacking is
dumbasses like you that click random phishing links and get their email compromised, then come on here crying that protonmail was hacked. But no, YOU were ‘hacked’ by, pure and simple, your own stupidity. The fact that you do or don’t have a protonmail account is somewhat besides the point, I only mentioned it because you said you DIDNT use one before and I pointed out that your sent emails wouldn’t be encrypted, unless you’re using another end-to-end encrypted email service, which I doubt because I can’t detect any intelligence radiating off of you. But while you’re clung to the name “protonmail hack”, it isn’t the only possible platform that can be infiltrated. I’m guessing y@hoo, gm@il or whatever your original email platform used was a much easier target. And based off your super-duper-sly, completely unidentifiable alias that definitely isn’t complaining about the same exact issue that a user named Jax1989 was having with a very specific person and case, I can only imagine how hard of a target you would be given that you definitely 100% cover your tracks. And no, Jax, before you say some other wild, dumb shit I’m not the one who “hacked” you. Just pointing out that by 100% random encounter from just interacting on the forum that I happened

First off Thanks Jax for clearing that up, I've made sacrifices to stop the scams. Starting over, I have not donated because I want that vendor in password protected. I would never ask you for his email. But I did finally find it so there should be zero scam with Q. I hope all is the same. I was grumpy earlier I apologize to @Gracie5 and @Mammasboi123 I was on here in the beginning. I am old, I have PTSD, chronic pain, my tolerance to my benzo prescription is bad, Getting Seizures now and the VA is not helping.

Now for my rant on this Amazing Lady, a strong, kind ,humble, honorable Warrior, still skilledin so many ways, I will not let these insults and slander go unanswered. I did pick my user name for this Wounded Warrior who kept this old man focused on the good of my time as a Navy Seal. Worrying about her husband, Also A Navy Seal started our chats, speaking of chats I didn't get to tell Jax we got the same scam but not from the same vendor. Although seeing her post finally gave me courage to speak up. We both had horrible seizures and she got me a life withoutso many limitations due to my PTSD.

One time she casually gave the name of her team when in the Coast Guard , she basically said I'm a Navy Seal. Only 2 of these Elite Teams existed. I knew of the Amazing Few since they often deployed from Naval Ships I knew all about her role as an Elite Member She jumped from a Helicopter,the Jayhawk, evenutally flew it, repaired, a newer chopper back in her days lol there was a lot to learn so that and her love of The Crow back then earned her the Chopper Hopper nickname CrowJax. This woman, this team who fought Piracy, Search & Rescue, Maritime Return Assault & Close Quarters Combat. She's a Veteran who fights pain everyday, she didn't have to tell me she'd saved lives. The CrowJax helps others on here and actually contributes. She's not afraid to speak up when a Vendor goes downhill. I have my Favorite Vendor and a fellow Veteran always ready to help me. So Life is Good, just need to block this pesky fly, can't get it to go away, Seriously how do you block somebody, It's ridiculous.