Psychedelics Won't Make You Crazy

[Bobaloo]

Thought I'd share this article that I found interesting and somewhat reassuring: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-08-lsd-psychedelics-linked-mental-health.html

In a study at a Norwegian University: "The authors found no link between the use of psychedelic drugs and a range of mental health problems. Instead they found some significant associations between the use of psychedelic drugs and fewer mental health problems."

So all those Grateful Dead concerts had nothing to do with it.  I'm not crazy, everybody else is.

 

[Bobaloo]

Sorry, here's the full link: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-08-lsd-psychedelics-linked-mental-health.html

 

[PITA]

So it wasn't just me thinking dropping all that acid caused my ex wife to go crazy. I guess it was me after all. If I'd known it might have helped I'd have looked for it more often. 

Seriously, I've gotten to know a chemist who knew "Owly", if anyone has heard the nickname, or has read "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, knows the name. My friend said Owly didn't know chemistry, his GF just hooked up with the professors to get them to make it after it was outlawed. Given the chance I would have been on the Merry Prankster bus myself.

 

[Tdogg616]

So it wasn't just me thinking dropping all that acid caused my ex wife to go crazy. I guess it was me after all. If I'd known it might have helped I'd have looked for it more often. 

Seriously, I've gotten to know a chemist who knew "Owly", if anyone has heard the nickname, or has read "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, knows the name. My friend said Owly didn't know chemistry, his GF just hooked up with the professors to get them to make it after it was outlawed. Given the chance I would have been on the Merry Prankster bus myself.

Its Owsley lol... I think you should read this story!  In order to handle "family" L you had to do the equivalent of 2-300 hits in raw crystal form! Basically like a DMT breakthrough at that dose only lasting wayyyy longer (your still tripped out for the rest of your life basically)... pretty much one of the craziest things ive ever heard, an amazing story to be read!

 

[headbanger]

Ask Syd Barret. He might say different.

 

[Bobaloo]

Its Owsley lol... I think you should read this story!  In order to handle "family" L you had to do the equivalent of 2-300 hits in raw crystal form! Basically like a DMT breakthrough at that dose only lasting wayyyy longer (your still tripped out for the rest of your life basically)... pretty much one of the craziest things ive ever heard, an amazing story to be read!

That was indeed an amazing story.  I think one would need a lot of courage to take that kind of journey, or a lot of faith.

 

[Tdogg616]

yeah you should check out this thread! chinacat is the one who wrote the story, truly crazy stuff! 

 

[Bobaloo]

yeah you should check out this thread! chinacat is the one who wrote the story, truly crazy stuff! 

I haven't planned my 2014 summer vacation yet.  Was thinking of a pilgrimage to either Estes Park, CO, or Seattle and the Cascades region in Washington, but after reading this am now seriously considering a trip to Eugene, OR during the 2d week of July.  It sounds like this gathering could be a very special experience.

 

[Tdogg616]

Ever been to a music festival, mainly a jam band or electronic one ? its basically the continuation of what the Grateful Dead and The Families do today... Their ,odern day woodstocks that happen every weekend of the summer.Oregon County Fair is an example however its more like a fair than music festival and its still okay to have kids around, most festival are not child friendly.

 

[Bobaloo]

Ever been to a music festival, mainly a jam band or electronic one ? its basically the continuation of what the Grateful Dead and The Families do today... Their ,odern day woodstocks that happen every weekend of the summer.Oregon County Fair is an example however its more like a fair than music festival and its still okay to have kids around, most festival are not child friendly.

I have been to a couple of those around my area.  The band wasn't bad, mostly Dead covers, some original stuff.  Mostly teens and twenty somethings, a few kids.  Plenty of partying.  I enjoyed it, tho I felt a little old for the crowd.  I figure maybe the crowd in Oregon would include more members of my generation.

 

[PITA]

Its Owsley lol... I think you should read this story!  In order to handle "family" L you had to do the equivalent of 2-300 hits in raw crystal form! Basically like a DMT breakthrough at that dose only lasting wayyyy longer (your still tripped out for the rest of your life basically)... pretty much one of the craziest things ive ever heard, an amazing story to be read!

It's been a long, long time since I read the book. I was thinking Owsley was his name and Owly was his nickname.

 But after reading parts of the article I felt kind of the same way after using KitKat. I would get it delivered a long time ago in minimums of 50 ml, sent in a water bottle, which at my suggestion they later changed to something different, just say less suspicious. Sitting at a PC watching visualizations I would do enough to reach a "K hole" and feel like several lifetimes came and went. The first time I did it (K), I thought I was riding waves of music into outer space. My buddy, who had done much less, didn't know what I meant when I was saying "Jimi is taking us too far out man!" I was relieved to come back to the sofa when he turned the music down or off. But I can say I became a true "Space Cadet", in a manner of speaking, if only for a few seconds.

IME, which with "L" was not very often, I felt it was like a "mood enhancer". Whatever mood you were in would be enhanced a hundredfold. IOW, if you were happy it would be as happy as possible, sad equaled very depressed, afraid equaled terror. I would never recommend someone doing it the first time without the aid of an experienced user. Especially with dosages being unknown from batch to batch, or even piece to piece. 

It's been a couple of years since I last had some, and it was very weak compared to that we would get even in the 80s. From what I recall in the book I think they estimated their "Acid Gas" capsules were thought to be around 350 mcg, but Ken Kesey was said to be doing massive quantities. I can't say for sure that what I recall from the book is correct, I only read it once and that was in the mid 80s. With Oldz Timers it's hard to remember my own age, so take anything I say that I took from the book with a grain of salt. It was a great book and would likely be as unbelievable to young people today as it was to me when I read it at about 20. And that was just 20 years or so removed from the time it was based.

 

[Tdogg616]

Awww yeah I love me some kit-kats /default_biggrin.png Thats really the only thing I want but its so damn hard to find, the one legit vendor I've found is out /default_sad.png

 

[PITA]

Yeah, the only legit source I know is probably the same vendor and they are out of stock. I forget my old source, but I'll look back in my email client and see if I can find his addy for you. His price was 30 per unit but that was a long time ago so I'm not even sure he is still in business or what the price is now. It wasn't medical units but was legit stuff that came out as if it was after converted to crystal form. 

I'll PM you if I find his addy and the password.  Since you mention it I'd like a little myself if he is still in business. It's the closest thing to "L" that I know, just a lot shorter acting.

 

[Tdogg616]

sweet thanks man that would be awesome! The closest thing to "L" that lasts less time is LSZ and AL-LAD, both are still legal and are ergoloids like "L". They're also just as safe from what we know. 

 

[Bobaloo]

sweet thanks man that would be awesome! The closest thing to "L" that lasts less time is LSZ and AL-LAD, both are still legal and are ergoloids like "L". They're also just as safe from what we know. 

What about shrooms?  Easy to grow your own from spores in an aquarium full of birdseed.

 

[The Shattered Soldier]

Great article. However, should be taken into consideration that the drugs ket, @ngel dust, and dxm are dissociative class drugs that can cause brain damage, depression, and Olney's Lesions. They should not be confused with psychedelic drugs and are highly neurotoxic. Please take great care in using these.

I happen to be a "Spirit Molecule" aficionado. It's an easy DIY project if you have a good tek and a great way to enter other worlds. It's too bad that the most effective main ingredient, Mimosa H R B is now illegal to import in the US. But there are other plants being vehemently researched on "The Nexus". And the product itself is so beautiful, a true work of nature's art!

 

[Jewbacca]

Great article. However, should be taken into consideration that the drugs ket, @ngel dust, and dxm are dissociative class drugs that can cause brain damage, depression, and Olney's Lesions. They should not be confused with psychedelic drugs and are highly neurotoxic. Please take great care in using these.

I happen to be a "Spirit Molecule" aficionado. It's an easy DIY project if you have a good tek and a great way to enter other worlds. It's too bad that the most effective main ingredient, Mimosa H R B is now illegal to import in the US. But there are other plants being vehemently researched on "The Nexus". And the product itself is so beautiful, a true work of nature's art!

Thank God you're posting again brother! You know how long it's been since anyone has brought up Olney's Lesions?! /default_biggrin.png

 

[PITA]

sweet thanks man that would be awesome! The closest thing to "L" that lasts less time is LSZ and AL-LAD, both are still legal and are ergoloids like "L". They're also just as safe from what we know. 

I'm not familiar with the stuff you refer to. If you don't want to share the names of the sources (as well as their real names, which probably shouldn't be shown on the open forum) please PM me. 

BTW, I sent an email to my old source. I also just opened a new topic about the place I found him at in the "Online Pharmacies" section. Maybe some others have used them, or still do, because my experience with the site was several years ago and I just reactivated my account to see what they currently had that might be unknown to others here. 

With my ordering being very limited, only 3 places that I have experience with, I'm not able to tell which places are known here and what they may have that isn't known here.

 

[underdog]

I'll just say I have seen people take larger doses of L S D or D M T and never quite come back. One became convinced he was christ, others had some delusional thoughts that had no basis in reality. Really really for out there.

It might be best to learn some meditation or yoga techniques before attempting such things, know thyself first.