ROA for MXPCP, 2-FXiPr, 3,4-MD-PCP?

[tudeniso]

Hello, just wondering what the recommended ROA for each of these newer disso chems would be. I'm guessing oral for MXPCP and 3,4-MD-PCP, as I have heard varyingly that they are caustic. Never had any caustic chems before (worst thing I ever snorted was 2CB for example) so not sure what to do with all of that. As for 2-FXiPr, is it viable IN or rectally? Orally? I can't really tell, it seems like people are snorting it but I do want to maximize the small amount I'll have. Thank you for any advice or suggestions feel free to talk about your experiences with these dissos in general too

 

[Gulp2788]

It's fine to snuff mx and 2fx I've found. They are less caustic than O-PC but it's good to flush your rats sinuses after an hour or so though just to reduce inflammation (this really goes for anything you put into their sinuses whether it is "caustic" or not). My rats didn't have too much trouble with that ROA and actually found it to be more bioavailable in that route. Rectal is the other method I found helpful but I think bioavailability is reduced upon that route so you end up using more to get the same effect in your rats. Oral is always the safest route but again nasally seems most effective. I don't IV or IM my rats but I would imagine that's most effective but I would caution against it as we have no idea the kind of damage it could cause to their systems that way. If you are willing to test these methods I would stick with IM as IV is likely to anesthetize your rats or potential accidental euthanasia them. We don't know the LD50 and I'm not willing to sacrifice my rats to determine it I love the little buggers. That being said I have pushed the doses quite high and have determined that the effective dose is very low compared to anything dangerous so just use common sense to preserve the lives of your rats.

My rats particularly like 2fx it's a shame it's so expensive and the effective dose is quite high.

 

[tudeniso]

Thank you so much! Like you said, there ended up being no issues with the nose beyond the usual stuff when you're doing something a bit harsher IN. Didnt try any other ROAs as it was basically a complete success from the start, was very cool. Did notice that it causes some watery drip that actually was running down the face rather than down the throat, which was burning the skin around the upper lip / philtrum area, so Im recommending those trying it to have a bit of vaseline or barrier cream in that area and on the lower outsides of the nostrils just so theres some protection and then any drip can just be patted and dried with a piece of tissue or something. And honestly agreed about the dose and price thing, quite awesome and super unique (both of these were, ended up mixing which was kind of dumb bc, didnt get a sense of each individually as much). Will be getting some 3,4 soon so I will update then for a report on that as well