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jamiva said:
Mr. Crowley, they taste legit to me, too. And they aren't 100% ineffective, just 70% or so... That's why I think they might be defective versus fake. Plus, the "K" on the pill is not a standard font, so it would be hard to counterfeit.
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So most likely just old or not stored properly.

 
Does lack of proper storage actually impact efficacy? Sorry to be naive - I read an article that the age of medication rarely causes degradation and that expiration dates really exist to limit liability of manufacturers. However, maybe poor storage conditions matter?

 
jamiva said:
Does lack of proper storage actually impact efficacy? Sorry to be naive - I read an article that the age of medication rarely causes degradation and that expiration dates really exist to limit liability of manufacturers. However, maybe poor storage conditions matter?
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I'm no expert, but intuitively it would seem to matter. I'm convinced mine aren't fakes though.

 
They're definitely not completely fake, however, the reagant test will only tell you if it is positive for op***es. I'll have the test bottle tomorrow but I think we all should be concerned that they are significantly weaker in all regards. They have the print, taste, etc. I've even tried doubling my dosage still no euphoria or lain relief. Much like a codeine or dhc effect.

 
dsshints said:
They're definitely not completely fake, however, the reagant test will only tell you if it is positive for op***es. I'll have the test bottle tomorrow but I think we all should be concerned that they are significantly weaker in all regards. They have the print, taste, etc. I've even tried doubling my dosage still no euphoria or lain relief. Much like a codeine or dhc effect.
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Have you addressed this with J?

 
Sent him a message about it last night but as stated above he said this was all that was left in stock currently which makes me think they're past shelf life. Just received my backup order from R and all is good. To my post before. The Reagant won't tell you how much purity or level tests per tab only that it determines if there is any substance at all. Be warned, only place orders with J at your own risk until he is restocked. I've had more w/d symptoms than positive effects with this last order. Significantly less bitter when dissolved orally.

 
All, IMO, there are some manufacturers that do a better job than others. Some of the makers have been shut down multiple times for QC problems and yet the F D A lets them go back up again...it's crazy. The fillers and amt of meds in them can vary a lot and even cause allergic rxn...conceivably this is not the fault of any of the vendors at all...everyone reacts differently. Be careful, do your research on manufacturers...it's helped me!

 
For anyone who has received these and are experiencing the same issues please notify J immediately. He responded with the following, "alot of costumers like this new pills but if you dont like the pills let me see if i can get and adress so you can send me back the product and try to get the pills you like". Hopefully, enough people will notify him of the bad batch so he can address this now before anymore orders are processed. I believe J will fix this as he has other issues in the years I've dealt with him

 
Ordered Monday for overnight

J said mg issue

Set for sat delivery

Still not here and no comment from j.

 
I think Sat deliveries are getting to be a big hassle with the vendors. Not that you shouldn't ask or try but it seems a person is not likely to get it on Sat. Just my thoughts.

 
Definitely not stupid, your comment made sense. I'm just beyond frustrated, as he's always been up front. I'm waiting to hear from him on Monday with explanation. I hate to have to leave him.

 
Curious how this (these) vendors compare to L, or twenty-one m#ds. I've never been able to receive on a sat. but it's usually been seen once or twice in the forum below. 

 
Ordered 9/21

delivery 9/25

with over priced "next day"...

product was, can I say OPOPOP!

solid communication, just not worth the shipping costs

 
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