Saturn Calibration

[sporidicus]

Has anyone else received their copy of the newest book regarding the NORTh? I haven't read in ages and this copy appears to have no plot, story, substance, etc. I should theoretically only need to read a small amount of pages to feel nice and ready for sleep. It seems that as others receive their copies, they are finding the same. Really disappointed and hoping this librarian can figure out a way to make things right for everyone, maybe a similar book in the same genre? @giantsquids can you please offer some insight here? I know I am not alone in my initial opinion.

 

[Indoctrination]

I did not receive effects from the NORTil either I figured it was just my opiate tolerance though.

 

[tiquanunderwood]

Hey I just received my second order from Saturn calibration, my first order went out without a hitch and that's why I had no problem ordering again. This one the product seems to be borderline inactive? The avizofone. I don't know if any others are having this issue but I'm gonna shoot you an email Saturn to see if anything can be done regarding this?

I've ordered their Av1za several times and it's always top shelf, same A+ quality I've received from other vendors. Saturn offers it way cheaper than some of the other domestic,.and ive ordered several grams from them.

I have more waiting on me once I'm back from vacation so I'm assuming it's powder and not sticky mush, or else they wouldn't have sent it out. I'll keep you posted tomorrow.

 

[giantsquids]

Has anyone else received their copy of the newest book regarding the NORTh? I haven't read in ages and this copy appears to have no plot, story, substance, etc. I should theoretically only need to read a small amount of pages to feel nice and ready for sleep. It seems that as others receive their copies, they are finding the same. Really disappointed and hoping this librarian can figure out a way to make things right for everyone, maybe a similar book in the same genre? @giantsquids can you please offer some insight here? I know I am not alone in my initial opinion.

I can't say one way or another what the issue could possibly be because so far there hasn't been any other negative feedback regarding this item from the people who have purchased from Saturn. At least not on this thread or directly sent to Saturn. I understand there are some mixed reviews going around but until the 3rd party testing comes back for this there is no way for us to know for sure if there is an issue. Based off the report from the vendor and the multiple repeat orders for this item thus far it appears that the research for many seems positive.



But I would like some more specific insight. For any of you guys who have purchased Nort from Saturn, I would really appreciate if you would email me at Lybbestre@proton.me with whatever feedback you have after conducting your research. I would like to get a better understanding of the overall opinion of this item to make a more educated decision on what happens next. Please include your order number, and whether it's positive or negative please let me know either way. Lybbestre@proton.me

Thank you guys.

 

[SnailyD]

I just put in a order for the nort, after seeing these reviews I am having second thoughts and wish I did my research I hope it turns out to be a good read

 

[F33n]

I just put in a order for the nort, after seeing these reviews I am having second thoughts and wish I did my research I hope it turns out to be a good read

It looks like it’s only one non sponsored guy complaining about it from what I can see. It’s not unusual for people to lie and say something is bunk just to get free shit.

Either way if there’s an issue I’m sure Saturn will handle it. They def aren’t going to fuck you over if there’s a problem with a product they are selling.

 

[F33n]

Has anyone else received their copy of the newest book regarding the NORTh? I haven't read in ages and this copy appears to have no plot, story, substance, etc. I should theoretically only need to read a small amount of pages to feel nice and ready for sleep. It seems that as others receive their copies, they are finding the same. Really disappointed and hoping this librarian can figure out a way to make things right for everyone, maybe a similar book in the same genre? @giantsquids can you please offer some insight here? I know I am not alone in my initial opinion.

Why are you acting like other people are having an issue with this product? For all I know it could be weak or whatever but I went through all the comments since it was offered and not a single person besides you has said anything about it being weak or inactive. Yet you said that others are saying it is? Why lie? Are you just trying to get free shit?

If you have an issue with it then tell them but don’t make up stuff like other people are also complaining about it when that def isn’t wrote anywhere in any of these comments.

 

[SnailyD]

Why are you acting like other people are having an issue with this product? For all I know it could be weak or whatever but I went through all the comments since it was offered and not a single person besides you has said anything about it being weak or inactive. Yet you said that others are saying it is? Why lie? Are you just trying to get free shit?

If you have an issue with it then tell them but don’t make up stuff like other people are also complaining about it when that def isn’t wrote anywhere in any of these comments.

Have you researched it yet? It’s going to be my first time and any pointers would be nice

 

[F33n]

Have you researched it yet? It’s going to be my first time and any pointers would be nice

No I’m limited to only using benzos. Sorry, I honestly have no idea what it even is. Just that other guy saying multiple people have been complaining when I looked through the comments I didn’t see anyone complaining so I called him out on it.

Did you use google or Reddit search? Tripsit? Make sure you do an allergy test first always obviously. Sorry I can’t be any more help.

 

[LW815]

No I’m limited to only using benzos. Sorry, I honestly have no idea what it even is. Just that other guy saying multiple people have been complaining when I looked through the comments I didn’t see anyone complaining so I called him out on it.

Did you use google or Reddit search? Tripsit? Make sure you do an allergy test first always obviously. Sorry I can’t be any more help.

I’ve been searching high and low for any real, solid, useful information on it and it’s really just not there. One user on here described their research with it and while I can’t say anything for certain his report lined up very will with the reports I’ve read about a similar, but different item. Similar only in the sense they’re in the same category of items. That user also pointed me to a r£edit thread that he claimed had a bunch of other reports and useful information within it and it was the same thread I’d been checking for anything usable for over 2 weeks - still with no firsthand experiment reports. Not sure what that was about, but it seemed pretty odd all together. With what little info exists about n0r+, the amounts used in the users research very likely would have had drastically worse results than the result he claimed. I don’t know and don’t want to accuse them of lying, but nothing really added up.

As of a few days ago I’d kind of given up searching for anything about it as nothing seemed to really exist. Definitely not a bunch, or even a few people claiming inert. Just the one guy on here, that I found anyway. I’m trying to find an alternative to my usual research as it’s currently MIA everywhere - but gave up due to lack of information that I’m comfortable using on any of the existing avenues and went back to a prior subject of study.

 

[SnailyD]

I’ve been searching high and low for any real, solid, useful information on it and it’s really just not there. One user on here described their research with it and while I can’t say anything for certain his report lined up very will with the reports I’ve read about a similar, but different item. Similar only in the sense they’re in the same category of items. That user also pointed me to a r£edit thread that he claimed had a bunch of other reports and useful information within it and it was the same thread I’d been checking for anything usable for over 2 weeks - still with no firsthand experiment reports. Not sure what that was about, but it seemed pretty odd all together. With what little info exists about n0r+, the amounts used in the users research very likely would have had drastically worse results than the result he claimed. I don’t know and don’t want to accuse them of lying, but nothing really added up.

As of a few days ago I’d kind of given up searching for anything about it as nothing seemed to really exist. Definitely not a bunch, or even a few people claiming inert. Just the one guy on here, that I found anyway. I’m trying to find an alternative to my usual research as it’s currently MIA everywhere - but gave up due to lack of information that I’m comfortable using on any of the existing avenues and went back to a prior subject of study.

Same, I’ve been trying to find anything in it and am coming up with nothing, one Reddit post said that read did 100pages and didn’t learn anything which scared me, but I’m in talks with Saturn and at the moment and will give any updates, my orders gonna be shipped out on Monday, I go on vaca on Wednesday so hopefully it get here’s before then, I will update you all then

 

[Indoctrination]

Im not saying the norti is bunk I didn't expect much because issues of tolly it's entirely possible that someone else with less years of research or those type of compounds. The avizofone also seemed not seem to work with my machines. But this could be a problem not caused by the vendor. I was just reporting back on my review. Saturn had completly great so far and offered gram of avizofone with next order or pay for shipping. So certainly not trying to have you not use Saturn as a I think the is solid vendor

 

[F33n]

I’ve been searching high and low for any real, solid, useful information on it and it’s really just not there. One user on here described their research with it and while I can’t say anything for certain his report lined up very will with the reports I’ve read about a similar, but different item. Similar only in the sense they’re in the same category of items. That user also pointed me to a r£edit thread that he claimed had a bunch of other reports and useful information within it and it was the same thread I’d been checking for anything usable for over 2 weeks - still with no firsthand experiment reports. Not sure what that was about, but it seemed pretty odd all together. With what little info exists about n0r+, the amounts used in the users research very likely would have had drastically worse results than the result he claimed. I don’t know and don’t want to accuse them of lying, but nothing really added up.

As of a few days ago I’d kind of given up searching for anything about it as nothing seemed to really exist. Definitely not a bunch, or even a few people claiming inert. Just the one guy on here, that I found anyway. I’m trying to find an alternative to my usual research as it’s currently MIA everywhere - but gave up due to lack of information that I’m comfortable using on any of the existing avenues and went back to a prior subject of study.

Weird. Is this some shit China literally just created or something?

Being the first to research something doesn’t sound fun. Honestly if I were you guys I’d wait for more info to come out so at least you know how many pages to use then try it and if it’s actually a junk chem I’m 100% sure Saturn will have your backs. They aren’t the type of company/people that are going to leave you hanging if there’s an issue with one of their products. Maybe the chem in general might just be shitty. China has been making some worthless stuff lately like tilmetamine.

Edit: so I did some research and you guys are right, literally no info besides theories that it would be good from a few years ago. There’s one Reddit thread of a guy using it but it basically was useless. Also theories that China sent out an inactive version of it (but that was one rando who said that in a dbg thread). I dunno I guess don’t buy any until you know what’s up and if you did buy some either be super careful researching it or wait for someone else to figure it out.

 

[Yaugae5121]

I can't say one way or another what the issue could possibly be because so far there hasn't been any other negative feedback regarding this item from the people who have purchased from Saturn. At least not on this thread or directly sent to Saturn. I understand there are some mixed reviews going around but until the 3rd party testing comes back for this there is no way for us to know for sure if there is an issue. Based off the report from the vendor and the multiple repeat orders for this item thus far it appears that the research for many seems positive.



But I would like some more specific insight. For any of you guys who have purchased Nort from Saturn, I would really appreciate if you would email me at Lybbestre@proton.me with whatever feedback you have after conducting your research. I would like to get a better understanding of the overall opinion of this item to make a more educated decision on what happens next. Please include your order number, and whether it's positive or negative please let me know either way. Lybbestre@proton.me

Thank you guys.

Good call man!! Yeah it happens waddya gonna do ya kno? I’ll email it now =]

 

[sporidicus]

Would like to update to say that Saturn made it right and i received a tax benefit for my donation, though they offered my choice of book. I will be checking out a title from this library when it returns in the near future. This was my first time there and I'm already super impressed even if I didn't get anything out of that book in particular.

 

[Indoctrination]

Weighing in on the nortil I was the one who posted that thread on /r/opiateRCs about the 100mg sample seemingly being inactive. Attributed it to the daily use of mmt but it seems that the Chinese fucked up or something. This plus my avizofone seemingly not working leaves me very sad. All was researched within 24 hours with seemingly no results. Saturn had offered to make it right with sending another g of avizofone but I'm worried about getting the same results.

 

[Mammasboi123]

Has anyone else received their copy of the newest book regarding the NORTh? I haven't read in ages and this copy appears to have no plot, story, substance, etc. I should theoretically only need to read a small amount of pages to feel nice and ready for sleep. It seems that as others receive their copies, they are finding the same. Really disappointed and hoping this librarian can figure out a way to make things right for everyone, maybe a similar book in the same genre? @giantsquids can you please offer some insight here? I know I am not alone in my initial opinion.

In my opinion, Saturn doesn’t owe anyone anything for the Nortil having minimal effects. This is not a Saturn Meds-specific issue. It seems to be across the board regardless of vendor.

Coming here and acting like Saturns Meds somehow is liable to refund them because they purchase a brand new batch of a brand new RC, with next to no user reports (up until VERY recently), are being completely unreasonable. There’s got to be a level of accountability that is assumed. This is not something well researched with an accepted profile of effects, like 0D$MT for example.

At the end of the day, you’re buying a brand new Research Chem. Risks like this come with the territory, plain and simple. Even results from one batch to the next can differ exponentially (ex: pre-2024 4-Me-TMP vs post-2024 ‘citrus’ 4-Me-TMP). Tolerance to other mags of the same or similar genre also come into play and make it increasingly difficult to know if it’s a batch issue, product issue, or user issue.

If someone doesn’t want to risk buying a less than stellar product, then wait a few months until there’s some consensus on the efficacy and dose range.

However. I do applaud Saturn for their customer service and being so open to hearing their clientele out and inviting feedback both positive and negative alike.

-MB