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In the real world, especially in countries with weak enforcement, you get what people sometimes call "grey labs" or "black labs" —
labs that operate semi-legally or illegally, cutting corners to avoid regulations and chase pure profit.

Some key points about them:

They don't submit any applications for chemical modifications.
→ They just do it and ship it under fake or misleading labels.

No safety standards: They often skip quality control (QC), so purity can vary wildly.

No environmental rules: They dump chemical waste illegally (which is why local governments eventually crack down hard when they find them).

Tied to organized crime: In some cases, yes — like the Yakuza in Japan, or similar groups in China (Triads), Southeast Asia, Mexico, etc.

"Front" companies: They often set up fake "trading companies" as fronts to hide the lab’s real activities.

Fast, cheap, no questions asked, but risky — customs seizure, legal trouble, contaminated products, etc.



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Real-world examples:

In the early 2010s, a lot of the "legal highs" (bath salts, synthetic cannabinoids) came from labs just like this.

Some Indian and Chinese black-market labs pumped out new analogs of banned drugs faster than governments could outlaw them.

Sometimes, you'd get something "labeled" as [something] — but it would actually be something else entirely, because no one checked.



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Bottom line:
If you're working with normal suppliers, they won’t modify chemicals without the right permits because they’re licensed and want to stay in business.
If you go into the underground market, then profit > law > safety, but risk skyrockets.


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You're thinking exactly along the right lines.
If you want, I can even tell you some signs that hint when a supplier is more "grey-market" — their language and behavior gives it away pretty fast.
Would you want that? It’s useful if you’re talking to a lot of companies.
 
In the real world, especially in countries with weak enforcement, you get what people sometimes call "grey labs" or "black labs" —
labs that operate semi-legally or illegally, cutting corners to avoid regulations and chase pure profit.

Some key points about them:

They don't submit any applications for chemical modifications.
→ They just do it and ship it under fake or misleading labels.

No safety standards: They often skip quality control (QC), so purity can vary wildly.

No environmental rules: They dump chemical waste illegally (which is why local governments eventually crack down hard when they find them).

Tied to organized crime: In some cases, yes — like the Yakuza in Japan, or similar groups in China (Triads), Southeast Asia, Mexico, etc.

"Front" companies: They often set up fake "trading companies" as fronts to hide the lab’s real activities.

Fast, cheap, no questions asked, but risky — customs seizure, legal trouble, contaminated products, etc.



---

Real-world examples:

In the early 2010s, a lot of the "legal highs" (bath salts, synthetic cannabinoids) came from labs just like this.

Some Indian and Chinese black-market labs pumped out new analogs of banned drugs faster than governments could outlaw them.

Sometimes, you'd get something "labeled" as [something] — but it would actually be something else entirely, because no one checked.



---

Bottom line:
If you're working with normal suppliers, they won’t modify chemicals without the right permits because they’re licensed and want to stay in business.
If you go into the underground market, then profit > law > safety, but risk skyrockets.


---

You're thinking exactly along the right lines.
If you want, I can even tell you some signs that hint when a supplier is more "grey-market" — their language and behavior gives it away pretty fast.
Would you want that? It’s useful if you’re talking to a lot of companies.
As far as America to America shipping for example I can order stuff from India for maybe 10 different suppliers and it's all legit 100% never had a problem at all I had one package seized on at a maybe 200 and they replaced it. But yes I do agree you can't just trust any sight and think that they're going to do the right thing. The person that sent me the fakes had decent reviews and everything I think they were posing as someone else because someone emailed me and told me that so I guess the actual person is legit and this person is posing as them sending out a similar menu and basically robbling people. I've never messed with RCs.... But the problem is that they don't have the pill identifiers on them and in the US a lot of people want that so this person happened to have them even though they were pressed they looked exactly legit.... That's what got me so excited.... And imagine if I would have sold them to someone or something, then my life would have been on the line. My benzo tolerance is insane I can do 180 mg alpraz daily and still be functional. Diaz.... Forget about it I could probably do 600 to 1,000 migs a day I can take 30 and still feel nothing. And that's both Mexican brands and American brands... Same with the alpraz... So I was so disappointed I mean just put a little something in there doesn't have to be 3.5 or 4 but I mean at least put one Mig for Christ's sake..... But for me India has been a very good plug for me. I see vendors selling items for seven times the amount that I pay and I get it in 7 to 10 days. And obviously the more you buy the cheaper it is. I'm only talking about a hundred here. I think I'm going to try pure alpraz and see if that works out better price wise. But I can't get an answer from any vendor as to what percentage it is. Where is some RCs say other items they're 100% puto. But yeah if you know an RC that's us to us that has alpraz with an actual percentage I don't care if it's 50 just give me an actual number don't give me something that's 20 I think that's why they're not saying a number. Do you agree?
 
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