Spachems.net - Opinions?

[Guwap]

cicose by the way, you show a photo of an order from chemical planet, which is also a legitimate supplier from which I have ordered more than once. Stop embarrassing yourself, please! Somebody make him stop spamming there, please... 

 

[Cicose]

This is clearly your company or something like that ,if you were just a client you would accept that it is possible that i get inactive substance especially if you lost "20.000" .But you are plain hiding them ,im the only one that showed a receipt here ,a prood that i actually buyed it so its clear you can call all your friends to comment on here i will post on every other forum for the world to see the truth...if they are soo ok they would send me a refund or something ,but they actually have goons like you that will dismiss everything i say

 

[rcnishko]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH The provider you show as evidence of scam  is also legitimate.

Why do you give them as an example of a scam?

You really are not with all your mind.

I have already said that you can get inactive products from them, but the reason is not from shop.

7add, 7abf, 7adb, jwh 210 etc. are completely inactive in many places and different shops. Whoever sells them to you will be inactive because that's how they work because of the new laws in China.

In this case, you ordered products that I know very well, you lied many times, which proved to be the case and I don't need to trust you any more.

I know of a total of over 50 deliveries, none of which have been like yours.

I'm sorry, but look for the problem somewhere other than the provider. Just the chance to lie so many times in the beginning, and now to believe you is no.

 

[chintox]

@chintox

According to the information I have, this is the substance before the final adb butinaca is obtained and synthesized. It should be active, but weaker than adb butinaca. There is a final chemical process, after which pure adb-butinaca is obtained. I'm waiting for a good amount to test it in this version, and if I'm not very happy I will try to complete syntheses to adb butinaca. Their price for 1 kg or even more is quite acceptable, and if you want precise instructions on how to complete the synthesis, you can get them after buying a sufficient amount of the product. (At least 100 grams will be needed for each experiment to complete the synthesis). Indeed, the instructions look very good and easy, and laboratory instruments are nothing complicated and anyone can buy them. There are 1.2 chemicals that everyone should find on their own market, but they are easily legal and at least in Europe.

Once I get adb inaca, I will test it in this form and if I am satisfied even with a lower mixing ratio, I will tell you.

If I'm not happy, I'll try to finish the synthesis and then we'll probably get the old adb butinaca, which is great.

For now, I can't say more, because everything is just a theory. I'll keep you posted, but these guys are definitely trying to keep us from good products.

Yo thanks really interesting as they can do a lot of it. Do you have the detailled process to end up with butinaca starting with the inaca ?? 
that could be a great solution against the ban of it.

Do you know if they could make a kit with the Chemical as tgc does for 5f adb ? 

 

[rcnishko]

Yo thanks really interesting as they can do a lot of it. Do you have the detailled process to end up with butinaca starting with the inaca ?? 
that could be a great solution against the ban of it.

Do you know if they could make a kit with the Chemical as tgc does for 5f adb ? 

@chintox

I was not offered anything extra by them. They sent me detailed instructions by e-mail how to complete the synthesis. I want to first understand what quality is without finishing, because there is a chance to be enought active.

Wholesale supplies are from China, but there are so many scammers out there that I don't want risk it. At the moment I am waiting for a bigger order from spachems and I will find out if there will be happiness or not i will update there about that 

 

[Guwap]

@chintox

I was not offered anything extra by them. They sent me detailed instructions by e-mail how to complete the synthesis. I want to first understand what quality is without finishing, because there is a chance to be enought active.

Wholesale supplies are from China, but there are so many scammers out there that I don't want risk it. At the moment I am waiting for a bigger order from spachems and I will find out if there will be happiness or not i will update there about that 

I know exactly who the Chinese suppliers are, but they are selective scammers and you better not risk directly with them, but use the services of suppliers such as tgcrc or spachems. Such organizations have agreements and do not cheat on each other!

I will follow the post because I am very interested in the quality of the precursors and whether they would really work without being completed ?!

 

[chintox]

@chintox

I was not offered anything extra by them. They sent me detailed instructions by e-mail how to complete the synthesis. I want to first understand what quality is without finishing, because there is a chance to be enought active.

Wholesale supplies are from China, but there are so many scammers out there that I don't want risk it. At the moment I am waiting for a bigger order from spachems and I will find out if there will be happiness or not i will update there about that 

I talked with them, they effectively do kits.

I just ordered 1kg of adb, im waiting for the tracking for both product and chems kit.

ill keep you updated during next week.

 

[rcnishko]

I talked with them, they effectively do kits.

I just ordered 1kg of adb, im waiting for the tracking for both product and chems kit.

ill keep you updated during next week.

@chintox First I will wait for the precursor to arrive. I want to test without finalizing the process. If I am not satisfied then I will supply the other substances for testing. I hope that you may not even need to complete it and it will work even in this form. We will see... DMF AND BROMBUTANE are easily located in the country where I live, I will not need to supply additional chemicals. Fluid delivery is much more dangerous and the chance of it arriving unscathed is lower. Please keep us informed of the supply of auxiliary chemicals as well as the precursor, hopefully the Chinese will not be exposed again.

 

[Guwap]

They also uploaded an update to their online store. We already have an option to buy 500 grams of adbb Precursor. In another forum and I read that even the precursor can work without finishing synthesis. Another online store sold out a good amount of the precursor. Fingers crossed, boys, to work in raw form, if not, I keep my fingers crossed that one of you will be able to complete the synthesis and delight us here in the forum with a treat of ;p Please let me know when you receive tracking numbers. I'm also on the verge of trying to buy a half kilo, so many months have passed without anything good from China... That's too good news now. And price is very good.

 

[fortknight34]

cicose Don't worry, I work with Spachems and Chemical Planet and we almost bought all their cannabinoids available Don't buy to have more for us haha

 

[Cicose]

My order from chemical planet never arrived i have the emails to prove my point....im just upset that you glorify these guys so much when they send me curry ,im frustrated man and you keep hating me ...im the only one who showed a actual receipt from them you only "said you ordered" and i know chemical planet its goos but after the ban my order never arrived so...

 

[idkwhy]

Either way this vendor would be a douche bag if they gave out PI of a customer to someone else. So  the ones that keep bashing dude are the owners/scammers IMO. And if they are not the owners than who could trust Spachems when they giving out a customers email convo and tracking and other details to just anyone or another customer.Suspect.

 

[rcnishko]

@idkwhy

When the client shares outright lies and manipulations, there are no problems.

When these lies and manipulations are proven - there are problems.

Why does he have the right to damage the authority of a good trader that I shared with you + authority of me, and the trader and me has no right to defend ourselves?

These photos completely prove a few lies of the client and I think he has been warned enough times both by email from spachems and by me there.

1. He said that he had not received any updates, any inquiries or information about the products and was very dissatisfied. - we saw this is a PROVEN a lower lie.

2. He lied that he had lost 500 euros, and then said 6,000 euros - a base lie.

3. as proof of fraud shared a photo from chemical planet, which are also reliable suppliers with whom I have worked without problems. - Another base lie! X3

4. Lied about the number and type of products he received, despite the fact that there is specific information and inscriptions. X4

5. lied about the quality of the products, because already enough people share here information specifically about their synthetic cannabinoids. (I can't prove it, but I think the comments here prove it)

Should I ask with so many lies and spam in this forum and topic, does the particular person deserve not to share evidence in favor of the injured party (supplier)?

As before I released the photos, as soon as I released them, he was again asked to delete all the false allegations that I have evidence of as fraud. He Don't do it, then in order to defend my name in this forum and this good seller that i share with you, of course, I will share the information in defense of my words.

I do not think that the specific defensive reaction means that they share such information about everyone. This one definitely deserved it in my opinion and I couldn't help but intervene

After all, whoever asks them for such photos and information is unlikely to receive it. I was one of the first people to trust the particular trader, I helped them a lot and gave a lot of advice. As I have said several times, we are in almost daily contact, but I am not doing anything wrong, and I am trying to help others get out of the hole of the missing good cannabinoids. This trader is saving my life last months, now i will help them with THE TRUTH!!!

 

[Cicose]

@idkwhy

When the client shares outright lies and manipulations, there are no problems.

When these lies and manipulations are proven - there are problems.

Why does he have the right to damage the authority of a good trader that I shared with you + authority of me, and the trader and me has no right to defend ourselves?

These photos completely prove a few lies of the client and I think he has been warned enough times both by email from spachems and by me there.

1. He said that he had not received any updates, any inquiries or information about the products and was very dissatisfied. - we saw this is a PROVEN a lower lie.

2. He lied that he had lost 500 euros, and then said 6,000 euros - a base lie.

3. as proof of fraud shared a photo from chemical planet, which are also reliable suppliers with whom I have worked without problems. - Another base lie! X3

4. Lied about the number and type of products he received, despite the fact that there is specific information and inscriptions. X4

5. lied about the quality of the products, because already enough people share here information specifically about their synthetic cannabinoids. (I can't prove it, but I think the comments here prove it)

Should I ask with so many lies and spam in this forum and topic, does the particular person deserve not to share evidence in favor of the injured party (supplier)?

As before I released the photos, as soon as I released them, he was again asked to delete all the false allegations that I have evidence of as fraud. He Don't do it, then in order to defend my name in this forum and this good seller that i share with you, of course, I will share the information in defense of my words.

I do not think that the specific defensive reaction means that they share such information about everyone. This one definitely deserved it in my opinion and I couldn't help but intervene

After all, whoever asks them for such photos and information is unlikely to receive it. I was one of the first people to trust the particular trader, I helped them a lot and gave a lot of advice. As I have said several times, we are in almost daily contact, but I am not doing anything wrong, and I am trying to help others get out of the hole of the missing good cannabinoids. This trader is saving my life last months, now i will help them with THE TRUTH!!!

I said i lost 500 on this shipment ,you saw the email, the other emails were in my spam  (why ? When all the mails were in my inbox ) , i didnt say anything wrong about chemical planet  but you can ask them my 2000 euro package never arrived so i can say i got scammed ,and the quality was subpar ,i work with bot acetone and isopropilic alchool and it was just sand ,and VERY WEIRD im the only one who posted my order!!! You and only 3 said they were good but no evidence ?!?! So ,why the rage ??? I didnt receive anything back if they were so proffesional ,they were the only one that did that

 

[rcnishko]

@Cicose

My friend, I don't want to argue with anyone in this forum. everyone has the right to leave a review and opinion for a specific supplier. You have that right too. I expressed my arguments and even intervened in the situation, which I do not regret. But I stop here, I stand by my words, as you do. It is good to have two-way opinions, and yet everyone can judge for themselves.

Be very healthy and let's share experiences with other suppliers, as spachems will soon also be without stocks of ready-made noids.

We also need other suppliers with ready-made products, this will be best done by helping and sharing, so see your PM, I promised you a special link for a DW forum in another topic.

Sorry for reacting so aggressively, I just really lost too much money because of scammers and I'm not lying that I'm very happy with the spachems. I have no idea why this happened to you, I really haven't heard of another such case from all my acquaintances.

 

[rcnishko]

Has anyone tried their deliveries to the United States? I have a friend there to whom I want to recommend the store, but I have no information on how they deliver to the United States. Please if any of you guys have ordered, share your experience.

 

[rcnishko]

Has anyone tried their deliveries to the United States? I have a friend there to whom I want to recommend the store, but I have no information on how they deliver to the United States. Please if any of you guys have ordered, share your experience.

Successfully shipped to the United States, but most products ship to the United States without tracking.

They also do not ship to the United States most of the good cannabinoids they offer.

 

[Jun0 React0r]

Can anyone here (aside from rcnishko; no offense meant!) confirm touchdown of anything from spachems.net in recent memory? I'd love to snag some 5-meo-mipt, but my spider-sense is tingling.

 

[Guwap]

@Jun0 React0r yes, im their regular customer last months 

 

[rcnishko]

new adbb batch, they are comming back, im waiting for sample and will share my opinion