Stimulants that don’t show

Most of them  will not if you give 2 to 3 days to wash out and keep using.  I know I used Butylone  night before going to Lab to do the standard 12 panel test. For job pre analysis and to my surprise Nothing.  Night before downed 250 MG and went to 

Strip Club. Felt all washed out next morning and to my surprise --all Negative readings.😊

 
Got enough for Personal us as will need for 5 to 10 years . However you can get 4-MEC or Methylone ( BK-MDMA) ..... I am very interested!!!!!😁

 
Old thread but it's something I'm curious about. Of course it depends on how many panels they're testing for but it seems they're much better at finding close relatives. Obviously the usual stim suspects are a fail but I have no idea what else is on the wanted list.

I had friends that were taking loads of ritilin and getting tested for court no problem. That was almost 10 years ago and things change fast but that group of goods is probably safe. I wonder about cathies and the other groups, how close they are to amphs and what they metabolize into. They probably don't have the time or $$ to bother with a lot of it.

On the other hand. One time I'd done a xanxax bar. Tested over 100 hours, 5 days later, and they picked up a few nanos of 'metabolites of desinger benzo'. Whatever that is. When they tried to zero in on what it was it vanished. We had a laugh over it, it was for a med clinic not a job or court and they love me but I wasn't happy. I already knew none of the xanx in my area is the real deal unless you pick it up at the pharmacy, it was still odd. The worry is that some types like clonopin and valerie can stick around for 2-4 weeks and these outlaw ones could be unpredictable. Stick around in the same way. Obviously water soluable is better but it also means it doesn't work for long.
 
I know this is an ancient thread, but in case anyone reads still: Cyclazadone isn't terrible in a pinch. Depending on liver metabolism, I guess there's a 1 in 10000 chance it could be a false positive, but I've not experienced that.

It's basically like an aminorex, and if I remember, it's sort of related to pemoline, but was 3 or 4x more potent with its dopaminergic nature.

It's a nice little functional stim, I usually take it oral ROA. Anyone not a heavy stim user would be best served at 10-15 mg to start. I'll usually sit at 40, maybe 50. Just make sure you aren't doing it every day, and if you're going to be remotely frequenting it, take TUDCA, milk thistle, NAC... Really just general amph liver protect protocol.
 
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  1. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @eswen444 might be a little more difficult and involve a little more planning, as well as price increases on certain items, but all of those will still be available, trust.
  2. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan i’m sure they made good money off of it and took the shit off the shelves, but I bet you it’s still available if you ask for it upon request especially if they know your regular buyer. I, like you, just bought kilos online to save money back in the day. I would only buy your shit from the smoke shops if I was that desperate.
  3. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan like I said before I’m a recovering opiate addict so I choose not to touch the shit at all but I’ve been to smoke shops because I buy disposable vape products and other accessories, but every smoke shop I’ve been to over the last few years have had kratom “front and center” and easy to see. About 2/3 years ago 7oh products began appearing and it got completely out of control. I remember telling one of the owners of my regular shop that 7oh it’s not gonna end well
  4. E @ eswen444: *or post here. Holy spelling problems....but also for everyones info what im told is as of 8/1/2026 7oh, MIT, MGM, and other concentrates will be scheduled 1. Its an emergency schedule which lasts TWO YEARS and they can request an additional if needed. I feel horrible for all the homie/homettes who have to deal with this.
  5. E @ eswen444: @MorfineOrfan do you have a link to the chems the DEA blans to emergency schedule? If so please pm it to me or lost here. From what im told from my corporate over seers everything BUT raw leaf, and capsuled leaf will be removed from shelves 7/31/26
  6. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: We made it to another Friday ladies and gents. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend, be safe out there.
  7. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z i have no clue what the supply and demand is like for brick and mortar shops, i havnt been in a smokeshope in 15-20years and back then none of them had or even knew what kratom was. Ive always bought kratom from vendors online, back in tge day we would use babel fish translator to haggle with vendors on kilo prices lol. But you dont need to worry mit will always be available if leaf is.
  8. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @nameofuser11 its not just 7/mgm/psuedo and sr, the dea has a huge list of compounds its banning with this ban. Odsmt is one, all the orphines and a ton more.
  9. MrFuszy @ MrFuszy: Lole onion sites?
  10. MrFuszy @ MrFuszy: @eiffraffca what ya mean
  11. R @ Riffraffca: Has anyone used and markets on the Dark Web?
  12. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @nameofuser11 Lol, happens to the best of us my friend. I think plain leaf will remain pretty easy to access, and prices shouldn’t fluctuate too much. Read up on how to use btc if you don’t know already. It’s not rocket science :)
  13. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: I donated and I forgot how to get the password. I am a moron. Don't worry I have no plans on becoming a vendor with my stupidity
  14. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: @st1ckyf1ng4z you're right of course. But being able to purchase with a debit card on a clearnet site with quality labs and low prices will be gone.
  15. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: Especially if they’re using mitragynine as the parent alk to make substitutes. I think it will affect plain leaf too at the very least it will not be as available as it’s been.
  16. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan @nameofuser11 That’s wild. But basic supply/demand tho, right? In my area all the leaf has been pulled off shelves,
  17. J @ j00ciiez: It sucks they're banning sr17. It seems to be a holy grail for many ppl.
  18. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: To clarify plain leaf kratom is not a part of this ban. Mitragynine might be fine. 7, psuedo,mgm15 and sr1708 are what are on the table to be banned most likely but hopefully just regulated.
  19. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z and yes , there are already indole alkoloids with tweaked scaffolding ready to take the place of 7/mgm, all with mitragynine as their parent alkoloid. The game of wack a mole starts the minute 7 is officially banned. Its 2013 K2 all over
  20. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan Also, it’s just a matter of time before another alternative pops up on the market anyway….
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