Wtf are the Ⓜ30s with "0D5MT + M0rph analogue"???

[ReeDaKyng]

A few months ago, when my plug ran out of the classic F-pressed 30s, he switched to this new "formula".

Allegedly, it is 0D5MT + an unknown M0rph1n3 analogue.

These have the same markings as the regular 30s but are thicker and unmistakeable, a more baby blue as opposed to teal, and crumble very easily.

A quarter up the nose was about the same potency as ~15% of a classic 30. Longer legs (2 - 3 hours) but way less euphoria, significantly more nausea, and completely lacked the warmth, itching, itc. of classic 0-pees.

Yet, they completely alleviated any WDs from the regular 30s.

Anyone have an idea wtf this "analogue" is? I suspect ISO or other z3n3s, but curious if anyone has insight.

 

[LW815]

Ď£r/M0řph¡n aka the toad po¡sõn, which is much stronger than the ‘original’ but I’d guess the use very light amounts so people don’t croak

Made myself laugh

 

[ReeDaKyng]

Ď£r/M0řph¡n aka the toad po¡sõn, which is much stronger than the ‘original’ but I’d guess the use very light amounts so people don’t croak

Made myself laugh

Uhhh wtf. How do you know that?? Isn’t that like super rare and also not cost effective at all to manufacture?

Not saying you cappin but just surprised

 

[rhodium]

Ď£r/M0řph¡n aka the toad po¡sõn, which is much stronger than the ‘original’ but I’d guess the use very light amounts so people don’t croak

Made myself laugh

Lol dermorphin isnt orally active

OP: the vendor himself doesnt have a clue because hes dropshipping them

 

[LW815]

Lol dermorphin isnt orally active

OP: the vendor himself doesnt have a clue because hes dropshipping them

The source that told me was extremely credible, I may have remembered the name wrong/got it mixed up though, I definitely said it with more confidence than I should’ve.

But does not orally active = not other RÓÁ active? OP mentioned the ol’ snoot and the bløœz are widely known for being thrown on some ReýnoIdș, so if its not active PM but can be or fò¡l’n’boil it would make sense why they’d mix the two. 0/D$MŤ is pretty shit lŅ and tbh a complete waste when put near heat but great when eaten. If the other has the complete opposite attributes it would kinda make sense to put them together in a přěşš cause it would make two otherwise unwanted compounds at least tolerable for the demographic looking to get more than just what Oh Dias MT has to offer as a ‘durt tee thur dee ‘

 

[ReeDaKyng]

Lol dermorphin isnt orally active

OP: the vendor himself doesnt have a clue because hes dropshipping them

Thanks. Reddit mentioned des0morfine maybe, but I find it weird because it felt so…cold. And also, why mix with 0d5mT instead of just deso…

Any idea?

 

[ReeDaKyng]

The source that told me was extremely credible, I may have remembered the name wrong/got it mixed up though, I definitely said it with more confidence than I should’ve.

But does not orally active = not other RÓÁ active? OP mentioned the ol’ snoot and the bløœz are widely known for being thrown on some ReýnoIdș, so if its not active PM but can be or fò¡l’n’boil it would make sense why they’d mix the two. 0/D$MŤ is pretty shit lŅ and tbh a complete waste when put near heat but great when eaten. If the other has the complete opposite attributes it would kinda make sense to put them together in a přěşš cause it would make two otherwise unwanted compounds at least tolerable for the demographic looking to get more than just what Oh Dias MT has to offer as a ‘durt tee thur dee ‘

The thing that confuses me is that when I started these blues I was on a heavy daily dose of 70h and I couldn’t even feel 80mg of oxygen at once. How tf did I feel the ODesEmT so hard? I would’ve thought the 70h would kill any other opi, esp a weak in like 0desmt

 

[LW815]

The thing that confuses me is that when I started these blues I was on a heavy daily dose of 70h and I couldn’t even feel 80mg of oxygen at once. How tf did I feel the ODesEmT so hard? I would’ve thought the 70h would kill any other opi, esp a weak in like 0desmt

I find O ‘breaks through’ most traditional óhpıs as well as maintenance, or at least Subway. I first started taking O after finally quitting my sandwich diet, can’t remember exact timeframe but wanna say about 1-2 months. In which time I’d tried some breathing exercise myself with very little effect up to 30-35pgs. Got my first O book and somewhere around 40-50pgs blew me away. It was almost like I’d never done anything else before.

O is definitely ‘weaker’ compared to others but IMO people underestimate it due to the actual weakness of the parent compound. Which when substituting O with its parent I found it takes around 600pg at once to even come close to 100pg of the former, and that was more being generous/placebo in anticipation of what I was hoping for if that tells you anything. That page count would leave a good portion of the population seizing out before they got any enjoyment out of reading.

 

[ReeDaKyng]

I find O ‘breaks through’ most traditional óhpıs as well as maintenance, or at least Subway. I first started taking O after finally quitting my sandwich diet, can’t remember exact timeframe but wanna say about 1-2 months. In which time I’d tried some breathing exercise myself with very little effect up to 30-35pgs. Got my first O book and somewhere around 40-50pgs blew me away. It was almost like I’d never done anything else before.

O is definitely ‘weaker’ compared to others but IMO people underestimate it due to the actual weakness of the parent compound. Which when substituting O with its parent I found it takes around 600pg at once to even come close to 100pg of the former, and that was more being generous/placebo in anticipation of what I was hoping for if that tells you anything. That page count would leave a good portion of the population seizing out before they got any enjoyment out of reading.

Sigh...it really sucks man. I LOVED oxygen before I was forced to switch to the newer inferior novels. But after a few years of 70h, F3n+, and these shitty fake oxygens with 0d5mT/morf analogue, I can't feel oxygen at all. Like at best it kind of alleviates WD, but absolutely no euphoria from reading this great story. So sad...

Really hoping the new oxygens I'm getting from DBG will hit the spot. Anyone have insight into how the Rocks-i-c0d0ne compares to the 3ndoc0d1ls from MX?

 

[LW815]

Sigh...it really sucks man. I LOVED oxygen before I was forced to switch to the newer inferior novels. But after a few years of 70h, F3n+, and these shitty fake oxygens with 0d5mT/morf analogue, I can't feel oxygen at all. Like at best it kind of alleviates WD, but absolutely no euphoria from reading this great story. So sad...

Really hoping the new oxygens I'm getting from DBG will hit the spot. Anyone have insight into how the Rocks-i-c0d0ne compares to the 3ndoc0d1ls from MX?

Tbh it sounds like you need a break, which believe me I know can be next to impossible when accustomed to these types of books. My best advise is to look into starting with a small (2pg if it’ll hold you) amount of Śuþs and rapidly lower the amount until you’re off and use b£nz0ș/prêgáb and maybe very, very light amounts of Křǎt0m(not 7 o//h) if necessary to stay off for a little bit.

Once I was on just O for a bit I was able to feel the oxygen in my lungs again, admittedly in higher dózeș than I had hoped for but it was felt just fine. But due to the donation point difference it was far more reasonable to go with the former, but now that that’s turning into a very ‘top shelf’ item itself I’m not sure it’s worth the difference anymore. Though I’ll say ~10 uses for 8-0 doll hairs is better than 1-2 when it comes to O vs oxygen.

 

[ReeDaKyng]

Tbh it sounds like you need a break, which believe me I know can be next to impossible when accustomed to these types of books. My best advise is to look into starting with a small (2pg if it’ll hold you) amount of Śuþs and rapidly lower the amount until you’re off and use b£nz0ș/prêgáb and maybe very, very light amounts of Křǎt0m(not 7 o//h) if necessary to stay off for a little bit.

Once I was on just O for a bit I was able to feel the oxygen in my lungs again, admittedly in higher dózeș than I had hoped for but it was felt just fine. But due to the donation point difference it was far more reasonable to go with the former, but now that that’s turning into a very ‘top shelf’ item itself I’m not sure it’s worth the difference anymore. Though I’ll say ~10 uses for 8-0 doll hairs is better than 1-2 when it comes to O vs oxygen.

Thing is I did have a break....Took 2 weeks off with essar17 (and before that I had tapered down daily 7 reading to only ~100 pages). No reading whatsoever during those 2 weeks, and no oxygen nor confetti for ~1 month before that. I still barely felt 40 pages of oxygen after.

Idk...maybe my plug (not DBG) just got some shitty ass End0c0d1ls...

 

[dragnetopher]

Thing is I did have a break....Took 2 weeks off with essar17 (and before that I had tapered down daily 7 reading to only ~100 pages). No reading whatsoever during those 2 weeks, and no oxygen nor confetti for ~1 month before that. I still barely felt 40 pages of oxygen after.

Idk...maybe my plug (not DBG) just got some shitty ass End0c0d1ls...

Welcome to using opioids… no matter what, the euphoria lessens with every use. Tolerance works in strange ways with this class of drug. Physical tolerance can reset, but the mental+emotional reaction doesn’t follow the same rules. Also, 40mg isn’t that much. Initially 10-20mg of hydrocodone would have me in a euphoric nod. 5 weeks later, using only twice a week I required 120mg for the euphoria I was so familiar with.

And YES even with $Ř-17, long breaks, tolerance resets, it literally doesn’t matter. Your consciousness itself adapts to the excitement and euphoric aspect of the experience.

Sure, some days with the right stuff at the right dose, you’ll get nice facsimile of that “euphoric” feeling, but it’s never what it used to be.

The first time you kissed a girl was probably pretty exciting, right? All those endorphins flowing, felt like heaven. Now that’s nothing to get worked up over in the slightest. Similar idea with opioids. Side note, “endorphin” is short for endogenous morphine

 

[ReeDaKyng]

Welcome to using opioids… no matter what, the euphoria lessens with every use. Tolerance works in strange ways with this class of drug. Physical tolerance can reset, but the mental+emotional reaction doesn’t follow the same rules. Also, 40mg isn’t that much. Initially 10-20mg of hydrocodone would have me in a euphoric nod. 5 weeks later, using only twice a week I required 120mg for the euphoria I was so familiar with.

And YES even with $Ř-17, long breaks, tolerance resets, it literally doesn’t matter. Your consciousness itself adapts to the excitement and euphoric aspect of the experience.

Sure, some days with the right stuff at the right dose, you’ll get nice facsimile of that “euphoric” feeling, but it’s never what it used to be.

The first time you kissed a girl was probably pretty exciting, right? All those endorphins flowing, felt like heaven. Now that’s nothing to get worked up over in the slightest. Similar idea with opioids. Side note, “endorphin” is short for endogenous morphine

The craziest experience for me though was poppy pod tea...

Now when I got my hands on it, I was in heavy addiction using 1 fenny blue daily, insufflated along with sevenoh. Couldn't feel a single bit of 90mg of end0c0i1 oxygen...

But then that week I got my hands on some dried poppy pods. Blended up about ~8 - 10 of them, ranging in size from a golf ball to a tennis ball (more on the smaller side). Blended and simmered in regular water for 30 minutes while stirring. Then filtered the plan matter out and chugged the full bottle of tea (~1 liter).

I damn near overdosed...

I shit you not...I have not been this close to OD since I started doing opioids ever. Not even fenny blues when I first started got me to this point. Had a near 24-hour long euphoric, itchy high and missed like 5 meeting for work lmao.

But how the fuck did that happen???? You're telling me the weak af morphine, codeine, and thebaine from fucking dried decorative poppy pods overpowered my fent+7ho tolerance???

How is that possible???

 

[Halif]

How is that possible???

I'm not sure how it is possible, but it is well-known that opium can hit harder than the sum of its parts would suggest. It's fascinating that papaver somniferum has been around for such a big chunk of human history; and yet, while the various alkaloids have been mapped and studied extensively, there are still a lot of aspects of how those alkaloids function that isn't well-understood.

Personally, as a fan of opiates, I'd put opium at the top of the list for best opiate (or opioid) and for drugs in general. It can be a bit annoying to get the dose right (especially when using seeds or pods to make tea) because the variance in potency can be vert surprising. A lot of care and patience is required.

Also, larger doses of opium / opium tea can be hard on the guts. There can also be a significant histamine response. So.... yeah. Plenty of us have probably had that experience where you're all hyped about going into relaxation land, but you end up hives on your neck and chest, intense itching (why does it have to be around the crotch?!), and powerful nausea, asking yourself "Why didn't I take two antihistamine tablets?!".

Still, when it all comes together you get the best (in my opinion) opiate experience. It's warm, it feels gentle in a sense but definitely not weak. And the legs on it! I remember one of the first good doses of opium I got that hit right: I was feeling within 15 minutes, was stoned by 40 minutes, and at 90 minutes in I was saying "How is this still increasing?!". It reached full power by the two hour mark, and basically just sat there at that power level for a good 4 or 5 hours before it even showed hints of gradually starting to wear off.

Ah, you've got me waxing lyrical now about good ol' days with nature's gift to those in pain.

 

[dragnetopher]

The craziest experience for me though was poppy pod tea...

Now when I got my hands on it, I was in heavy addiction using 1 fenny blue daily, insufflated along with sevenoh. Couldn't feel a single bit of 90mg of end0c0i1 oxygen...

But then that week I got my hands on some dried poppy pods. Blended up about ~8 - 10 of them, ranging in size from a golf ball to a tennis ball (more on the smaller side). Blended and simmered in regular water for 30 minutes while stirring. Then filtered the plan matter out and chugged the full bottle of tea (~1 liter).

I damn near overdosed...

I shit you not...I have not been this close to OD since I started doing opioids ever. Not even fenny blues when I first started got me to this point. Had a near 24-hour long euphoric, itchy high and missed like 5 meeting for work lmao.

But how the fuck did that happen???? You're telling me the weak af morphine, codeine, and thebaine from fucking dried decorative poppy pods overpowered my fent+7ho tolerance???

How is that possible???

Just proves how underdosed all of those pressed pills are. Just because one does street f3nt doesn’t really mean much. Especially not when it’s just a single press.

Also, using 7-°h blocks other opioids, just so you know. It’s a weak high compared to its absolutely absurd binding affinity. So your habit was essentially just 7-°h at that point.

Anyway, this isn’t 2016 anymore, so no f3nt related product is dosed like it used to be. The cartels quickly learned that the LD50 of f3nt being just 2mg (honestly less than the eye can reliably even judge) isn’t a suggestion, it’s a rule.

Now, a decade later, they’ve been able to reduce the dose so much that a first timer isn’t at risk of dying, and seasoned users have to buy more.

I was a DNM f3nt user before it replaced everything on the street. I’ve had experience with 96%+ purity, fine crystal f3nt HCl. A single 0.1g bag was 100 doses for the most seasoned h3r01n addict. Because that’s what real f3nt is actually like. Cancer patients don’t even get 1mg doses.

When I had to resort to “raw” street f3nt straight off the brick, you have no idea how disappointed I was. They don’t even let it leave the production labs before it’s cut to less than 10% purity, honestly even less. Because 10% purity would be providing 10mg per 0.1g bag, which is far too much.

And I honestly believe most of those pressies are dosed at 0.25mg these days. They never did a single thing for me, having the tolerance to proper f3nt that I did.

All that to say that I’m not surprised that you had such an experience from the tea at all. That was quite irresponsible, to be honest.

Never assume your tolerance when all you use is street stuff+unregulated, non-lab tested “legal highs”.

Doesn’t sound like your tolerance was that high at all in reality. Not surprised in the slightest. Who knows how many mg of all those various alkaloids you actually consumed? There are countless tales of inexperienced tea users having the same experience, with some of them dying.

You chugged the whole liter, of course it was an extremely powerful experience. Be glad you didn’t end up in the obituaries.

 

[sporidicus]

Ď£r/M0řph¡n aka the toad po¡sõn, which is much stronger than the ‘original’ but I’d guess the use very light amounts so people don’t croak

Made myself laugh

Are you positive? I find it much more likely that it was one of the Orphines that have been popping up, but I've seen derm so….could be I guess?

 

[LW815]

Are you positive? I find it much more likely that it was one of the Orphines that have been popping up, but I've seen derm so….could be I guess?

after hearing it’s not orally active from rhodium(who I’d believe is credible, also I searched it after) and remembering m—-ine an@Ioğ could mean shit like bror/şpiribror/chIor/cychIor/whatever tbh that makes far more sense. Like I said the person who told me was extremely credible as well, I just have a shit memory OR they’d heard of other př£şśiès containing it and we weren’t on the same page. I tend to have a lot of discussions while reading a million miles a minute or watching galaxies form in front of me and everywhere in between. Not ‘dumb’ per say but not always cognitively present if ya know what I mean lol