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Lol, I am curious to see whether it got shipped right before this broke, or if he’s delayed responding to me until he figures it all out. In any case, seems odd. I’ll probably take a tiny sample to test things out, knowing me...
On a related note, how on earth did this happen? I imagine this was a supply mix up, but he claims to test his products. It just seems odd because the substitute chemicals seem to be expensive and not of the type you’d suspect when a supplier is being tricky and swapping chems on you. Grave mistake either way, and shame on Syntharise for not having better quality control processes in place to detect and prevent this sort of thing. I hope nobody was seriously harmed, or worse...
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Ouch, that’s no fun! Thanks for the cautionary tale and words of wisdom, I think you’re right about just letting it go. I did receive my tracking number, and it looks like this was shipped a couple of days prior to this news breaking.
I’ll come update the community here if I find anything of value to report. I’m curious to have this 3-fpm tested but do not have the time/money at the moment. Maybe best to just get rid of it and move on!
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That sucks to hear, they used to be solid as they come. I believe he will make everything right. He has done reships before free of charge.
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An update for you all since I promised one (please forgive me if this is too lengthy and difficult to read, I have difficulty writing concisely following a serious brain injury a few years ago, so I hope it's comprehensive and helpful. I'm likely done with Syntharise, and I don't want to trash a vendor lightly or unfairly, so I included enough detail so others may take from it what they may.
I did finally get my 3-fpm order delivered, and I was curious to see what the deal was after the whole fiasco with substituted chems mislabeled as 3-fpm given mine was shipped right when this scandal erupted. I received email from Syntharise on Dec 3, I think, that the 3-fpm was packed and ready to ship that same day. Less than 24 hours later, I received another email saying 3-fpm was out of stock and he'd have to postpone shipment until around 12/11 when his new supply was due. He did say to let him know if this was a problem and he'd be willing to send me the equivalent price worth of dichloroetizolam, which was an offer I was not interested in accepting. Next day comes along and I'm pleased to see an email with a tracking number, though fairly confused and feeling suspicious given the issues with the 3-fpm and his contradiction regarding his fulfillment of my order and his stock of 3-fpm. Opened the package this week and was extremely disappointed to see 100 mg dichloroetiz0lam.
This is the finale to a saga that began when I first paid for this order October 7th. I've remained extremely patient and forgiving throughout, and I don't get the sense Syntharise is malevolent or takes advantage of customers, but in my experience it's just that M. has been careless and scatter-brained, even if polite and reasonably responsive, but outcome matters more than process here and polite efforts don't keep a research lab running. It took over a week to ship after payment was wired, but that's understandable from time to time. Unfortunately the package is lost in the ether still, with no tracking updates after scanning "cleared customs" on October 18th, and no seizure letter yet but I don't expect one as I tend to get those in 2-8 weeks tops. Of course, Syntharise would not offer to reship until it was "confirmed" lost. I think that's a bit harsh given the time that's passed, but finally we came to the agreement the 3-fpm would be reshipped, roughly 40% of my total order. That is acceptable to me at the moment even if a bit of a failure to follow their own reshipping policy. Now I'm told it's packed and out the door one day, but there's no stock the next day. Then Im offered a different product that I don't want, yet was shipped to me that day anyway.
I don't trust carelessness in businesses where mistakes can be catastrophic for customers. I don't respect businesses that do not follow their own policies, and do not truthfully account for incidents in their operations and the preventative measures in force going forward. Incidents like the 3-fpm adulteration issue are hazardous but inevitable in any business no matter the lawful classification. But denying accountability and lying about the status of that product to me was distasteful. All dates and signatures from my reshipment indicate this was packed up before he updated me about having run out of stock - although I suspect the shortage is better explained by the adulterated batch - and I hope it's the case he was not sending me 3-fpm despite complaints at that point. I hope the measly amount of the already worthless dichloretizolam was actually a courtesy shipment until 3-fpm is stocked again and verified by chem analysis. I even wonder whether it is accurately labelled at all...
I did finally get my 3-fpm order delivered, and I was curious to see what the deal was after the whole fiasco with substituted chems mislabeled as 3-fpm given mine was shipped right when this scandal erupted. I received email from Syntharise on Dec 3, I think, that the 3-fpm was packed and ready to ship that same day. Less than 24 hours later, I received another email saying 3-fpm was out of stock and he'd have to postpone shipment until around 12/11 when his new supply was due. He did say to let him know if this was a problem and he'd be willing to send me the equivalent price worth of dichloroetizolam, which was an offer I was not interested in accepting. Next day comes along and I'm pleased to see an email with a tracking number, though fairly confused and feeling suspicious given the issues with the 3-fpm and his contradiction regarding his fulfillment of my order and his stock of 3-fpm. Opened the package this week and was extremely disappointed to see 100 mg dichloroetiz0lam.
This is the finale to a saga that began when I first paid for this order October 7th. I've remained extremely patient and forgiving throughout, and I don't get the sense Syntharise is malevolent or takes advantage of customers, but in my experience it's just that M. has been careless and scatter-brained, even if polite and reasonably responsive, but outcome matters more than process here and polite efforts don't keep a research lab running. It took over a week to ship after payment was wired, but that's understandable from time to time. Unfortunately the package is lost in the ether still, with no tracking updates after scanning "cleared customs" on October 18th, and no seizure letter yet but I don't expect one as I tend to get those in 2-8 weeks tops. Of course, Syntharise would not offer to reship until it was "confirmed" lost. I think that's a bit harsh given the time that's passed, but finally we came to the agreement the 3-fpm would be reshipped, roughly 40% of my total order. That is acceptable to me at the moment even if a bit of a failure to follow their own reshipping policy. Now I'm told it's packed and out the door one day, but there's no stock the next day. Then Im offered a different product that I don't want, yet was shipped to me that day anyway.
I don't trust carelessness in businesses where mistakes can be catastrophic for customers. I don't respect businesses that do not follow their own policies, and do not truthfully account for incidents in their operations and the preventative measures in force going forward. Incidents like the 3-fpm adulteration issue are hazardous but inevitable in any business no matter the lawful classification. But denying accountability and lying about the status of that product to me was distasteful. All dates and signatures from my reshipment indicate this was packed up before he updated me about having run out of stock - although I suspect the shortage is better explained by the adulterated batch - and I hope it's the case he was not sending me 3-fpm despite complaints at that point. I hope the measly amount of the already worthless dichloretizolam was actually a courtesy shipment until 3-fpm is stocked again and verified by chem analysis. I even wonder whether it is accurately labelled at all...
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Hi guys,
I'm Patrik, 43 yo boy originally from Europe, new here but over 20 years in active research, still using mainly European sources. 3-FPM I actually had few years ago from Northchems. It was ok but I still prefer pyros, enjoy them little too much to be honest.
However it's not my point today. I want to ask all of ask if may consider not to be idiots. I'm one as well. Maybe 5 years ago I was helping as advisor and tester of one vendor from Holland, wont tell the name, it's irrelevant. Sometimes I got some free snacks and TH-PVP was at home. Me, used to 100mg lines top shelf aphp, made line, thanks God just like 60mg. After snorting I remember just very little and in 36 hours I woke up in my room, at my workplace to make it even better, fucked up so much that it took me 4 hours to write short message to my company to immediately stop offering that shit and sending it to lab. This time they listedned to me and results were kinda weird cannabioid and benzo mixture. I was like 3x over lethal dosage but as you can see I'm still here.
We all know that we agree these products are for in vitro use only and I was such an idiot and didn't do the allergy test ( don't understand why it has such fucking name but it's not important ). I have no allergy to benzos, well no tolerance either, but I'm very lucky motherfu.... that I survived it and fully recovered in 3 days. On top of my idiocy I can say that I knew this product is originally from rechemco and in India or China isn't mislabelling unfortunatelly very often phenomen, I wasn't 18 yo boy but researcher with 15 years experience, advisor of growing RC vendor ....
I could continue but I think that's enough.
Please guys, don't be such stupid, always go this "allergy" test. I don't know how open I can be here but I can recognize I feel I have in nose 3mg of stimulant or 3mg of benzo but if not , just few minutes will tell.....
And I think we can skip the refund talk because for were such stupid and handled dangerous chemicals like candies could be any refund already irrelevant, guess you know what you mean.
Plus behavior as idiotic I performed will make it ban many "candies" we could responsibly enjoy and research. And situation is pretty fucked up already so why make it even worse for everybody.
i don't blame my Netherland's friends or Rechemco however pissed of i was but i can blame only myself for being an idiot.
But on my defense I must say I learned a lesson, good boy
Now time to shut up, hello to everybody and wish exciting and mainly safe research.
Peace.
Patrik
I'm Patrik, 43 yo boy originally from Europe, new here but over 20 years in active research, still using mainly European sources. 3-FPM I actually had few years ago from Northchems. It was ok but I still prefer pyros, enjoy them little too much to be honest.
However it's not my point today. I want to ask all of ask if may consider not to be idiots. I'm one as well. Maybe 5 years ago I was helping as advisor and tester of one vendor from Holland, wont tell the name, it's irrelevant. Sometimes I got some free snacks and TH-PVP was at home. Me, used to 100mg lines top shelf aphp, made line, thanks God just like 60mg. After snorting I remember just very little and in 36 hours I woke up in my room, at my workplace to make it even better, fucked up so much that it took me 4 hours to write short message to my company to immediately stop offering that shit and sending it to lab. This time they listedned to me and results were kinda weird cannabioid and benzo mixture. I was like 3x over lethal dosage but as you can see I'm still here.
We all know that we agree these products are for in vitro use only and I was such an idiot and didn't do the allergy test ( don't understand why it has such fucking name but it's not important ). I have no allergy to benzos, well no tolerance either, but I'm very lucky motherfu.... that I survived it and fully recovered in 3 days. On top of my idiocy I can say that I knew this product is originally from rechemco and in India or China isn't mislabelling unfortunatelly very often phenomen, I wasn't 18 yo boy but researcher with 15 years experience, advisor of growing RC vendor ....
I could continue but I think that's enough.
Please guys, don't be such stupid, always go this "allergy" test. I don't know how open I can be here but I can recognize I feel I have in nose 3mg of stimulant or 3mg of benzo but if not , just few minutes will tell.....
And I think we can skip the refund talk because for were such stupid and handled dangerous chemicals like candies could be any refund already irrelevant, guess you know what you mean.
Plus behavior as idiotic I performed will make it ban many "candies" we could responsibly enjoy and research. And situation is pretty fucked up already so why make it even worse for everybody.
i don't blame my Netherland's friends or Rechemco however pissed of i was but i can blame only myself for being an idiot.
But on my defense I must say I learned a lesson, good boy
Now time to shut up, hello to everybody and wish exciting and mainly safe research.
Peace.
Patrik
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@LatsDoodis I like you man. You seem like a cool dude. But your posts are long as fuck. Lol. God I’d hate to be on the phone with you. I bet your friends never get a word in when they’re talking to you do they? Lol. When you text your friends I bet you’re the kind of guy that’s like “actually it’s spelled you’re if you mean you are and they’re if you’re referring to they are “ lol. I’m just messin with you man, i love when you post.
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Oh you don’t know the half of it it! I was clear and concise until a serioud brain injury five years ago. A lot of rehabilitation and residential living skills treatment got me way better in most of the worst deficits (I couldn’t tie my shoelaces, calculate a tip, or remember my own city); It’s just the impulse control and dorsolateral prefrontal cortex changes. My girlfriend stayed next to me and paid dearly to give me a chance to recover, so she’s allowed a few words - but so have to concentrate on it. As for friends, it’s unfortunate but even good people will abandon you if the situation is too painful to accept. So now my best friends are store owners and doctors. Try being in a long car ride with me or a group text.
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I realize this is from one year ago but I apologize for not replying. Has anyone resumed shipping here? What became of this?
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Yeah, I got 20g of primo 3F from Syntharise a month or two ago. And it was either legit 3F, or I metabolize benzos in a very, very strange way ;-)
I actually traded emails with mike following the original 3F debacle, and we discussed his analytical methods, and he explained some upgrades that they were making ASAP. I also put him in touch with one of my best China peeps, and I know that they did some business. (Not sure if the business involved 3F, but whatever Mike got from my guy will be about the best in the world. I'm guessing SARMS, but I prefer to remain ignorant of the details.)
And you're not alone in the head injury department. I got hit kickboxing in college and fucked up something subtle related to sleep. The sleep situation got progressively worse for the next decade, until finally I had to take a leave of absence from from work and see some leading sleep doctors. I've been bad about taking my medicine recently (hence the 4AM post), but I managed during my leave to get a miracle drug that helped a lot. Insurance won't cover it, and it's about $500/day if you buy it through the normal channels, but my buddy in China hooked me up with the active ingredient for at a 96% discount relative to the pills, and I reverse-engineered the excipient formulation. But I had the opposite problem from you—my speech was filled with awkwardly long pauses, and I often had trouble remembering "le mot juste". So I kept my writing brief, and tended to keep my dumb mouth shut :-/
I actually traded emails with mike following the original 3F debacle, and we discussed his analytical methods, and he explained some upgrades that they were making ASAP. I also put him in touch with one of my best China peeps, and I know that they did some business. (Not sure if the business involved 3F, but whatever Mike got from my guy will be about the best in the world. I'm guessing SARMS, but I prefer to remain ignorant of the details.)
And you're not alone in the head injury department. I got hit kickboxing in college and fucked up something subtle related to sleep. The sleep situation got progressively worse for the next decade, until finally I had to take a leave of absence from from work and see some leading sleep doctors. I've been bad about taking my medicine recently (hence the 4AM post), but I managed during my leave to get a miracle drug that helped a lot. Insurance won't cover it, and it's about $500/day if you buy it through the normal channels, but my buddy in China hooked me up with the active ingredient for at a 96% discount relative to the pills, and I reverse-engineered the excipient formulation. But I had the opposite problem from you—my speech was filled with awkwardly long pauses, and I often had trouble remembering "le mot juste". So I kept my writing brief, and tended to keep my dumb mouth shut :-/
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I ordered from them years ago. What was supposed to be Baclofen ended up fucking me up for weeks on end. I don't know what the hell it was, but it ended with paranoia, days without sleep, and tremors. Lost my job over what was supposed to be a relatively harmless product.
How am I 100% positive it wasn't Baclofen?
I've since had a prescription for it. They sent me some fucked up shady shit. Order at your own risk.
How am I 100% positive it wasn't Baclofen?
I've since had a prescription for it. They sent me some fucked up shady shit. Order at your own risk.
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- L @ Layne_Cobain: I often wish I lived during the turn of the century or at least before the Harrison narcotics act or whatever I think it was 1924 the fun ended but anyway yeh being able to get laudanum, ❄️ and amphetamine at the local friendly pharmacy
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Chew on the leaves with a bit of slaked lime and enjoy the mild boost you get from the raw base.
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I’m sure you know the folks in the mountainous regions along South Americas pacific side buy cócà leaves at the local farmers market just to help acclimate to the higher elevation when they have to head up into the hills.
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I would certainly have bought it, swilled it, enjoyed it…. Why not? A little boost in your juice isn’t going to hurt anyone.
- R @ Royboy99: Exports were reported to have around 7.2mg per FL OZ, it’s success is what actually led to Coca Cola
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Having cramps and husband thinks you’re acting hysterical (ie. PMS) the doc would either perform a certain massage to relieve the strains of motherhood and family life of that time or send you down to the local apothecary for a bottle of laudanum… A tincture of alcohol and 10% òpìųm. Fun days huh?
- R @ Royboy99: @malestrom: yeah thats it, my bad Mariani, yeah i considered that and also its ROA, which was oral so the bioavailability was lower than insufflation, higher degree of purity tho and longer duration … there was a significant marked increase of patents filed by Edison during the time it was released in the US. Presidents were known to use it as well, and the Queen. The pope awarded the wine the Vatican gold medal award
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I think it was called vin Mariani. But yeah, it was all the rave back in the turn to the 20th century. Original formula Coca Cola did it for a while too. I think it was pretty weak though. Something like 200 mg per liter of wine. Enough to maybe give you a little push but unless you could pound some serious alcohol, it’d be hard to really feel the effects before the ethyl knocked you down on the ground. It was an interesting time period. Laudanum was a “hysterical” woman’s best friend.
- R @ Royboy99: Maybe it’s the admixture of my South American dna that works so well with it ? 🤷
- R @ Royboy99: It’s all evident in memory recall, my emails, meetings, … people invest everything they have in a nootropic that provides this… desperately searching without success and it’s right there right under their nose (no pun) … stigmatized by society and outlawed.
- R @ Royboy99: Now I’m not foolish or delusional to think that it made Edison who he was … it just allowed him to Edison to Edison to a greater degree … and I see it doing that for me and others who use it as a productive tool and not a substance of abuse.. you can look at this data with the level of patents filed by Edison during that time … comparable to Barry bonds or McGuire breaking records while they were subtly enhanced
- R @ Royboy99: One could argue that we would not have motion pictures if it wasn’t for ❄️
- R @ Royboy99: I also take month long breaks and replace with Ritalin for receptor recovery
- R @ Royboy99: And while it may sound insane and completely destructive … small microdoses of ❄️ has really transformed me. I did extensive research on its use by Edison, the pope at the time, and many others who got great benefit from a wine concoction called vin Mariani … this subtle enhancement changed the world and as long its used with a high degree of control, it’s amazing. you may think I’m crazy … but I’m just being as transparent as I can
- R @ Royboy99: I’ve grown to realize that my time is finite and Im only getting older… I’m back to relying on small PRN doses of FDA trialed BZDs and it’s made tremendous improvements to my quality of life. I just need to get out there more and meet someone new, it’s the only piece that’s missing since I’ve managed to get it together
- R @ Royboy99: @LatsDoodis: thanks brother … I’ve spent months trying to put myself in uncomfortable places to grow stronger. Hours of research, thousands on supplements, therapy etc …
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@Royboy99 You’re not yet lost. Cut them losses and do what you don’t want to do. Take the boring, shameful, nerve racking way out. It’s the only road back to balance. When you’re ready, you’ll do it. Hit me up if you want support quitting. This ain’t worth your life!
- R @ Royboy99: Grateful that this site exists and realizing that trying to save a few bucks today may cost me so much more in the future …
- R @ Royboy99: The hardest hit was losing my girl , and I still feel the tremendous heartache everyday, over a year later … knowing that I caused it all. She gave me multiple chances and I let her down everytime … I use Diaz and kpins going on year now for my panic attacks, ptsd and anxiety. With no issues and see a therapist weekly