Sorry bro, I suffered an aneurism yesterday, my apologizes! Looks like the email didn't come through or something messed up. Can you try it again bro?What about mine, what do say mate? You gonna save your reputation by promising to deliver? I promise I will hold up my end of the bargain by singing your praises to the heavens and removing any doubt in anyone's mind in placing future orders. What do you say mate? I recognize that I originally did go "off the handle" without further information from you. "Balls in your court mate!"
Glad she is ok.Yo guys tapping in once more. I
Yes man im not complaining because stronger ones i can break down and get more out of it, but the euphoria of etiz is absent from these and a 3rd of the bar sent my magazine and my girlfriend's very tolerant magazine into a complete blackout. I dont want to claim i know whats in it but its not as simple as "6mg bromaz instead of 4.5mg". I love Rhodium, but something is wrong with these bars. Flualp 3's would hit like this but those are supposedly printed on X2 whites not green s903s
As I noted, mine are green S903. Def 100% not et1z (I suppose I am a connoisseur as I spent 5 years taking small-dose of pressed before the ban with consistent internal testing results shipment to shipment).I'm gunna back scarred14 on this one, @Ketmaster. He's old school and human and very connected and able to source the stuff I thought I would never see again
The network of others required to be able to do that increases the "human element" factor, my first order slipped thru the cracks but I was patient and he came thru
@AeonFlux75, as for the yellow bars being clam, I never got to analyze any clam on my chromatography setup back in the day but I understand it would have a horse knocked out if it was fed a couple of em, I've powdered mine before analysis and the run time didn't seem longer than my reference sample of 3tiz I still have from 10 years ago, maybe the fact it's pressed is creating a time release effect?
In my ideal world that's the last thing I would ban, I'm with bitwise and 3tiz being IDEAL for sleep and the safest of the options I have seen for sleep and minimum side effects and easier to get off of, etc., (from everything I've read and I have read A LOT of research over the years)
I noticed slynico mentioned green bars. I've seen green clam on another vendors site and it was advertised as clam. Are your bars green or yellow?
I'm supposedly red/green color blind a bit but I definitely got yellow bars and, my equipment is old and not the most sensitive but it's looking like we may have a case of someone sending green bars instead of yellow by mistake?
You sound way more tuned in than my old lab equipment but I'm curious if you have yellow bars or green? That would explain the difference...
I think the yellow bars I got were the real deal, I powder them and they register quicker than any other bnz0 (3tiz is actually NOT a bnz0, it's a different class of molecule that is similar but so much better for the people who want a fast acting, quicker to wear off and generally less harmful alternative than the typical bnz0 class from everything I've read)
Anyway I'm just looking for clarity at this point. I have yet to get a chance to do enough testing and it seems like the br0m@z that's going around (not just here either) is a different molecule than the original one that was banned in China recently but it seems some labs thought a structurally similar one was close enough to sell by the same name but it is pharmacologically completely different and, that is impacting many vendors and I can only imagine how it must be to have paid for a huge amount of $ for something that you think is the same thing you have been getting, and sell it to a bunch of people and then find out afterward that they pulled a bait & switch and now you have to pay even more to make it right with everyone.
Now imagine having to deal with that while a scammer is impersonating you (anyone who got green bars instead of yellow, was there one "c" or two in the email address I wonder?)
Actually I think that guy just takes pplz $...
But, it takes a team to get the orders out for the real Rhodium and that means they can also accidentally or intentionally send green bars instead of yellow and, guess who has to make it right again? The guy who's reputation is on the line.
It sucks for a customer who gets scammed for a grand or two. My first experience was $2k lost to an exit scammer, I know that feeling and it sucks.
I've also had to wait and email many vendors when all or part of an order slipped thru the cracks, they have all made it right... but I think there’s been a lot of sources and shippers scamming vendors and they have to deal with ridiculous amounts of $ lost and stress and I don't even wanna think of what it must be like.
So, yeah, this is probably a rough time for the guy. I have seen his character on his deals with myself and everyone else and he was solid and came thru for everyone who was patient and I want to encourage everyone to give the guy a chance.
Many would be tempted to bail under those circumstances. I wanna see the guy who was able to get the things I thought I might never see again succeed. So I'm taking the time to share the same past experiences that others have reported and take a deep breath and give the man a chance to make things right
Imagine that you have been working to build a reputation and then multiple people scam you on the level of the orders you have to place as a vendor to get any decent margins, and then you get shafted by the people who are supposed to be sending stuff for you on top of that and you have to deal with everyone who is blaming you for it all. You might have to take a break from the emails for your sanity too for a day or so here & there.
Scarred 14 is right, he has the potential to be a top vendor. I want to see him make it through this and the community retain! a valuable resource for things that are not easy to find any more, like 3tiz. There's no alternatives to that stuff.
I'll get off the soap box now <3
Okay yeah weird, now that I see you got green everything makes sense. My bad if you mentioned the color before and I missed itAs I noted, mine are green S903. Def 100% not et1z (I suppose I am a connoisseur as I spent 5 years taking small-dose of pressed before the ban with consistent internal testing results shipment to shipment).
Last night I took a small sliver of 1/3 of the greens, slept like a rock (ok, fine), but it's been 16 hours since ingestion and I am barely functional today (heavy body, slow thinking, etc). I've never taken actual RC (meaning a benzo-deriv that was never mass-marketed), and I have experience with low dose, doc-prescribed benz for anxiety. This, whatever it may be, should be taken with caution by anyone without experience or who is also reading other mags. The liquid Et!z, if someone wants something light, is a better option. Fast-acting, short half-like, could possibly be actual Et!z just underdosed.
It's wild to me that with all the chemists out there and all the RC demand that no smart person has thought, "hmmmm let's come up with something very similar to Et1z because there is a known desire for fast-acting, short half-life, great for sleep, etc." Instead, we get all these RC options that only suit the person whose tolerance is super high and/or who wants to be partially or mostly inebriated indefinitely. After 5 years with .25mg Et1z every night, I never built tolerance and getting off them was a breeze after titrating down for a week. I truly believe big US pharma would never (won't) touch them because it would put so many other benz0s out of business.Okay yeah weird, now that I see you got green everything makes sense. My bad if you mentioned the color before and I missed it
I've seen pics of the green ones on other vendors sites and they were advertised as clam and ppl described it as like what you did, that sounds like clam, a known heavy hitter and I still think I somehow got yellow and same code "s9o3" but either my machine is just straight up broken after all these years or, it's like 3tiz 3mg...
So weird but, as you said, it's not straight from Hermes... very well put!
Love your handle btw, OG Aeon Flux is one of the best series ever made
So that’s all I can say for now everyone, if your s309 bars are green, be careful and don't make plans for the next day!
If they are yellow I would love to hear someone confirm that I am not colorblind AND incapable of analysis of the lightest, safest thing we've ever been denied access to (aka 3tiz) that I was analyzing nothing but and doing great until started to run low and went on the wild goose chase that I still think finally ended for me with Rho to whom I am so grateful for... but if it's been swapped with green now, or at least for some ppl, and the same letters now (and the pics I saw did look green so I can't be THAT colorblind.... I hope!), everyone be advised of the difference!
Sucks that one guy's trying to run a legit operation (as far as I can tell... why send samples if they are not what they are supposed to be as far as you know, and all the other happy customers overall, etc?) and then it turns out that both the sources and fulfillment are so lax, some people get the wrong thing (and wow, if someone had eaten 2 clam bars not knowing it and needed to be functional... wow) and they have to be the one to eat it all on both ends...
Good luck everyone and be safe, know your color wheel, and props to Rhodium for coming through for everyone he has despite all the setbacks!
Such a shame they took away 3tiz from legality and created the potential for these things to happen, great "war" on personal freedom and safety guys... but it makes a great excuse for more control huh?
totally agreed, and your last sentence is correct, big pharma is developing seversl 'rc' b3nz0s. if you check a list of them, check and see if there is a big pharma company researching it.It's wild to me that with all the chemists out there and all the RC demand that no smart person has thought, "hmmmm let's come up with something very similar to Et1z because there is a known desire for fast-acting, short half-life, great for sleep, etc." Instead, we get all these RC options that only suit the person whose tolerance is super high and/or who wants to be partially or mostly inebriated indefinitely. After 5 years with .25mg Et1z every night, I never built tolerance and getting off them was a breeze after titrating down for a week. I truly believe big US pharma would never (won't) touch them because it would put so many other benz0s out of business.
It's wild to me that with all the chemists out there and all the RC demand that no smart person has thought, "hmmmm let's come up with something very similar to Et1z because there is a known desire for fast-acting, short half-life, great for sleep, etc." Instead, we get all these RC options that only suit the person whose tolerance is super high and/or who wants to be partially or mostly inebriated indefinitely. After 5 years with .25mg Et1z every night, I never built tolerance and getting off them was a breeze after titrating down for a week. I truly believe big US pharma would never (won't) touch them because it would put so many other benz0s out of business.
Very informative reply, thank you! So helpful when people with insider-industry knowledge shed light on these issues.As a (long) retired and successful RC Benzo vendor; my passion for medicinal chemistry and psychopharmacology deepened after leaving this once golden insutry.
TL;DR - Expertise, expensive trial and error, legality, creativity/surprise novelty... plus good old supply and demand. Simply isn't worth time, effort, and trial to the labs and chemists who can pull it off.
Long Version:
- Most of our RC benzos (and RC's generally) were thanks to patent files from big pharma. For a variety of reasons chose not to market. Abuse liability (too good), adverse effects (too risky), but mostly market cost (approval isnt cheap, so it better be damn better than what we've got)
- No matter the *diazpiene, they are tough to synth compared to other RC's. Its an excellent scaffold to modify in countless ways. But adding an atom here or there is easiest. Analogue laws quickly killed this swift trick. (Sadly the best class IMO, thienotriazoldisazpines (etizolam) are now illegal analogues due to temporary Sched I status
- Those under testing/development are high-efficacy, low abuse potential, by targeting very specific subunits of the GABA-A recepetor. Computational models make this easy. Gone are the days of talented chemists and surprise discoveries.
... and god I hope I'm wrong. Custom synths alone to find what we know of is worthwhile; $100k minimum. Reagents, time, and trial and error.
... if I could get paid to sit on Auto-Dock all day, with a high end lab alongisde talented chemists... well PM me lol
Yeah the same happened to me when I tried to pick up some B707s. He replied asking if the yellow ones would be ok, I asked what they were and he said 6mg bromaz. Its a bummer to hear they werent even as strong as the blues, mine are supposed to be arriving today. I'll let you know how my research goes.TLDR: are the yellow R039's the 4/2 blend or 6mg bromaz?
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Has anyone heard from Rhodium lately? It's been a while since he replied in our signal conversation or in email..
Maybe someone here can help though..
I ordered the 4.5 bromaz, and he said he'd send me 6mg's instead..I was thinking he was hooking me up, so I said awesome thank you! The next day, I remembered that he had 4.5 bromaz and also 4/2 bromaz/bromaze...
When they arrived, since I still hadn't gotten an answer back from Rhodium, I tried to check his list to see if it said what color or stamp the 4/2's had, but both of the sites are down...
These don't seem like there's as much in them as the 4.5's(blue B707), which is a bit of a let down and has me feeling like he gave me the less desirable batch to get rid of them or something.. I really wish he would respond and let me know what I have here... The packaging says bromaz.. (also had two numbers, one being the number in the package and the other being more than was in the package, idk what that's about.. But again, can't get an answer)
So anyways, to anyone who ordered the 4/2 batch, were they yellow R039? Or did he send what is really supposed to be 6mg bromazolam..?
Email him. He'll respond with a link.How do you see a menu?
How do you see a menu?
Have been wanting to get those just all quiet on the emails have me waiting + site down has me waiting.Anyone else order frmparam 90 bottles magazines..? Been 7 days . Orders before came in 5ish