Bupe Recriational?

[Gyre]

Hi there,

I think on this forum I don't have to be scared to 'out' mysef as a recriational user of weak opiates. I dont think I'm the only one /default_wink.png

That being said, I'm always looking for something good and I was wondering if Bupe (found it with Starlite) is something that has recriational value... Reading that it is a heroin substitute scares me a bit ofcourse.

I only have experienced tr@mz, codeen and dhc and therefore am a little afraid that Bupe is a league high for me. Ironicly, I'm looking for ocee or vic's and wouldn't be scared in trying. However, the describtion of Bupe being a heroin substitute makes me shiver.

Let me know your thoughts!

Kind regards

 

[kindsty]

Hi there,

I think on this forum I don't have to be scared to 'out' mysef as a recriational user of weak opiates. I dont think I'm the only one /default_wink.png

That being said, I'm always looking for something good and I was wondering if Bupe (found it with Starlite) is something that has recriational value... Reading that it is a heroin substitute scares me a bit ofcourse.

I only have experienced tr@mz, codeen and dhc and therefore am a little afraid that Bupe is a league high for me. Ironicly, I'm looking for ocee or vic's and wouldn't be scared in trying. However, the describtion of Bupe being a heroin substitute makes me shiver.

Let me know your thoughts!

Kind regards

It has very little recreational value for the users with a high tolerance this is one of the reasons it is used in 0piate maintenance treatment and given to addicts but you would have good results as you have a very low tolerance I would only start with a dose of .5 and wait no less then a hour then if you feel ok take another .5 you can always take more but you cant take less once you have taken it so remember this stuff lasts a good long time Half life is ~37 hours, depending on your dosage and tolerance, that means the "high" could last anywhere close to that number.I've noticed ppl say "high" lasts 12-18 hours. I was on it for about 5mths about a year ago my PM doc wanted to me try it to see if it helped keep my pain level and the only good thing for me was it helped keep me from having up's or down's and I had fewer pain attacks. But I will give you a site that users post there experience from all kinds of medications and the effects and experience's from other users it is a very good resource, I hope this helps remember to be safe and be responsible,

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Pharms_Buprenorphine.shtml

Kindsty

 

[Gyre]

Thank you! Sounds like heavy stuff. So no 'rushy' feeling as with oceee I guess? I'll ask starlite for a small sample next time I order with him.

 

[Gyre]

Mhhhm mixed reviews on erowid. It sure makes you vomit hahaha... Anyone experienced with bupe without a opiate addiction/tolerance?

 

[greenmaniac]

I got some 0.2mg from starlit and tried up to 1mg and d8dnt really "feel high". I felt l8ke was under the influence of something that could be powerful tho. My opiate tolerance is no more than 150mg c9-deen.if i was you i would try poppy pod tea)

 

[Gyre]

Whenever I get them I'll try them but for so far I stay away from the hardcore stuff. Don't wan't to end up on the needle. Take ope's almoast over 12 years (yes since I was 12) and always had the discipline to not get addicted. When I see SL's prices for the bupe, I am in trouble because it is very cheap. Strong stuff must be expensive. I will have to many of the stuff at home and cannot discipline myself. If I find oxy in Europe ine day I would pay $50 a pill. Consequently, the urge to take more is compensated by the price. catch mu drift?

 

[Dru]

You're not going to get high using the 0.2 stuff, the 0.2 stuff is made for animals for after surgery, chances are if you have a cat you already have some of that in the med cabinet. For humans they come up to 8mg in a tablet, but like said before on here, you don't want to do more then 2mgs in a day unless you want to be a daily user. Take 2mgs all at once (under the tongue or in the nose) and you will get very high, remember it takes about 2 hours to kick in though. If you puke you took to much, stay around 2mg's untill your body gets used to it...

 

[seattlebattle]

I was given a couple 8mg bupe (no naloxone) from a friend, tried 2mgs and it got me messed up but I did not like the feeling, Felt kind of sick to the stomach as well. Flushed the rest down the toilet.

I've been taking ocees recreationally for years but am not physically dependent and try not to build up a tolerance

 

[Dru]

Yea that's the big boy shit i am very careful with it, getting sick sucks, but when you do it just right oh fucking ruling the world! Snorting small lines is the best for sure, i can make a 8mg pill last 4 or 5 days.

 

[Suzie]

Just make sure that you don't have a bunch of opiates in your system when taking bupe or you will experience withdrawals that are hell on earth.

 

[blissopifree 2]

I wouldn't bother taking subs to get high I really don't find much of a buzz from them.They are used to wean heroin addicts off heroin or as an alternative for pain management.Not much euphoria to be had from suboxone anyway although I hear you can get more of a buzz from snorting subutex.

 

[blissopifree 2]

So basically suboxone has naltrexone in it which is an opiate blocker and subutex is pure temgesic with no blocker

 

[Suzie]

So basically suboxone has naltrexone in it which is an opiate blocker and subutex is pure temgesic with no blocker

Naloxone  is added to sub-ox-one to prevent i.v. use but does nothing else.  Subu-tex does not contain it but both cling to the opi-ate receptors in the brain.  If you don't plan on i.v.-ing then both will be the same.

In other words both are opi-ate blockers, one you can i.v. the other you can't.  When you go to a doctor who prescribes them the doctor will tell you that you have to be in opie withdrawal before you take the first one otherwise it will throw you into precipitated withdrawals that are so much worse than regular w/d and for that reason never take when you have opies in your system.  Taking an opie after you have bupes in your system won't do that but you also will barely feel them because the bupe covers those receptors. 

 

[blissopifree 2]

Yes but in my exp heroin will break though subutex easier than suboxone but as you say both cling and cover the receptors that heroin will cling to usually. .

 

[dbc23]

For maintenance or s bridge for normal users is ok. Is adviser against trying it for rec purposes, someone mentioned tea, that's probably a better option. The wd and dependance acquisition on bupe is not worth it.

 

[peanut]

For maintenance or s bridge for normal users is ok. Is adviser against trying it for rec purposes, someone mentioned tea, that's probably a better option. The wd and dependance acquisition on bupe is not worth it.

Agree 1000%. Have fun getting off of it. Been taking 1mg/day for 5 months. If I don't have that 1 mg I sure feel like an old fuzzy dog turd. 

 

[Suzie]

Agree 1000%. Have fun getting off of it. Been taking 1mg/day for 5 months. If I don't have that 1 mg I sure feel like an old fuzzy dog turd. 

I was able to get off all the way without any discomfort but only because I did it very very slowly.  1mg. is still a high amount to jump off from.  It helps if you have the strips because it is so easy to cut down to tiny pieces but the pills are doable too.  When I hit 1mg. I went down by 20% and stayed on that for a month or more at a time.  If it wasn't comfortable then I did 10% and this went on for over a year before I finally got to .125 which was a speck.  It was so small that I couldn't pick it up with my fingers and had to use the corner of a razor blade to stick under my tongue.  I stayed on that amount for 6 months before I had the nerve to jump and I was so glad I went down that far and took my time because there was no w/d.  And once you get below .50 any p/k's you take will be stronger.  Let me know if I can be of any help pea.

 

[peanut]

I was able to get off all the way without any discomfort but only because I did it very very slowly.  1mg. is still a high amount to jump off from.  It helps if you have the strips because it is so easy to cut down to tiny pieces but the pills are doable too.  When I hit 1mg. I went down by 20% and stayed on that for a month or more at a time.  If it wasn't comfortable then I did 10% and this went on for over a year before I finally got to .125 which was a speck.  It was so small that I couldn't pick it up with my fingers and had to use the corner of a razor blade to stick under my tongue.  I stayed on that amount for 6 months before I had the nerve to jump and I was so glad I went down that far and took my time because there was no w/d.  And once you get below .50 any p/k's you take will be stronger.  Let me know if I can be of any help pea.

Wow great info! The horrible thing about subs is LESS is better. They started me out on 24mg (3-8's) a day. Then dropped to 16mg a month later. I got booted from the program back in August due to not going to my 1 on 1 (mostly bc I was dirty, and personal issues at the time). I went from 8mg/day in Aug to about 1mg once or twice a day now. If I am super low its 1mg a day but get the tired feeling around 8pm when my day is only half over. Otherwise I take my other 1mg after lunch and am good til right before work (2pm). Sometimes I forget to take the early dose, and when I realize it my mind fucks me and tells my body that it is not performing correctly until I take it. Damn mind over matter. 

Also would like to add that less is better. I feel a much stronger "buzz" from 1-4mg than I ever did from a whole 8mg at once. I have a few buddies that alsi swear by this. Not sure why.

 

[Suzie]

Wow great info! The horrible thing about subs is LESS is better. They started me out on 24mg (3-8's) a day. Then dropped to 16mg a month later. I got booted from the program back in August due to not going to my 1 on 1 (mostly bc I was dirty, and personal issues at the time). I went from 8mg/day in Aug to about 1mg once or twice a day now. If I am super low its 1mg a day but get the tired feeling around 8pm when my day is only half over. Otherwise I take my other 1mg after lunch and am good til right before work (2pm). Sometimes I forget to take the early dose, and when I realize it my mind fucks me and tells my body that it is not performing correctly until I take it. Damn mind over matter. 

Also would like to add that less is better. I feel a much stronger "buzz" from 1-4mg than I ever did from a whole 8mg at once. I have a few buddies that alsi swear by this. Not sure why.

If you take it twice a day then maybe try .50 in the afternoon and .50 at night.  Because of the long half life you have to taper very slow but if you jump back up now and then it is really a set back for your body getting used to the lesser amount.  If you are used to 2mg. a day then I would cut one by 10% or 20 if you don't have discomfort until you are down to 1mg.  Once I was down to 1mg. I took it even slower and I made myself do it only once a day but I wasn't working so it was easier for me otherwise you can still do .50 twice a day.  I would cut a tiny corner (10%) on the first of every month and that's how I would remember.  Time for rent, time to taper, lol.  Once I got down to .125 a 2mg. strip cut into 32 pieces!!!  I was so proud of myself when I got to that amount because like you I went from 2mg. a day to 2mg. lasting a month and a day.  I stayed on .125 for a few months just to be sure that my body was used to that lesser amount and then I skipped a day and dosed the second day, then skipped two days and dosed a day then skipped 3 days and I was done.