Benzo Hierarchy

Smoka90 said:
@Jellopanda  Flunitr@z might be best being avoided altogether really. I think its potency's bad. I've always got a little suicidal angel at the back of my mind that makes me think of methods of going, and flunitr@z would probably be on there. It's incredible to think that I could mix a few different things in one 00 sized empty capsule that would finish me off very quickly. It's the potent RC benzohs that are bad like that, too. That's why I always warn people about Clonazolam and Flubromazolam. If I put 200mg of f'lam in a cap, with a strong fennt analogue, it would kill me very, very quickly. The scary (?) thing is they're available in powders. I've never tried or even owned any of those things, but the fact they're out there is an interesting point.

I guess my point there is...avoid RC benzohs...

If you genuinely want to live a good, long, happy and healthy life, that would be your best weapon against addiction and for self-improvement. It's when people think that they have nothing much, or nothing at all, to live for that severe things happen. So my point is, identify what happiness you want to reach, and acknowledge...that you can get there easier with less addiction issues...

If you were going to ask your GP about flunitr@z, he might think you're only after strong stuff, so just be careful not to get on the wrong side of him. I'm always a passive bootlicker when I see my GP.

Sorry if this didn't make sense, my head's in a bit of a mess, but I hope it helped a bit...
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When i was taking about seeing my GP i was referring to what you said about free kava and not fluni. I asked him about kava, but it's apparently not well known in norway even tho it's on the list of prescription drugs. He said at first he didn't know what it was, but when he googled it he said he'd heard of it before, not sure he said that just so it appeared he knew what he was talking about.

He gives me the impression sometimes that he isn't all that knowledgeable about medicine. Often feels like i have to to tell him things he he doesn't know, like telling him how melatonin works. When talking yesterday to a nurse i have, that comes to visit me once a week she told me they call him the pill-doctor. He kinda just listens briefly to your problems and then prescribes a bunch of pills.

I went there to find out about kava, which he felt it was difficult to get, but ended up with four other prescriptions i hadn't even asked for. 2500 mg cody, mel@t0n1n, 100 z0pi and another anti-depressant that was called t0lv@n with the active ingredient m1@nserinhydr0kl0r1d, that could supposedly help with sleep and anxiety. I have so many pills now i feel like i could start a pharmacy.

He did find out however that 1bupr0fan is contra-indicated because of my other anti-depressant, and they can cause severe ulcers together and i've been taking them for years together. Leaves me with a bigger problem tho, because now i can't take para or ibu with my c0de1ne to potentiate the pain relief. And cody alone isn't enough, and tr@m@ may give me seratonin syndrome (another thing i had to tell my GP about). So i pretty much have to get a steady source from a doctor for something heavier. DeeHcee seems like the best option, but that isn't well known in norway either so they may give me hydr0c0de1n instead or something, but need either my dermatologist or plastic surgeon to sign of on that to make my GP give it to me.

I have this hope that my attending doctor of social medicine knows what kava is and how to get it as this is kinda her field. I have a lot of doctors and nurses.

Guess this post was all over the place, feel i was kinda ranting about a lot of things. Maybe this thread should have been called Letting Jellopanda getting things of his chest and give him help and advice, instead. You've all been very helpful tho. thanks for that.

 
@Jellopanda My doctor is quite similar in a way; he often checks his 'big book of prescriptions'... but he's a good doctor.

I couldn't work out what anti depressant it was you're taking. As far as I know, there's no real need to code anti depressants, since they're commonplace, completely legal etc. Though I could be wrong...

DeeHCee would be better than Hidro. It's less addictive. Maybe you could say to the doctor, if he offers hidro, that you'd prefer DeeHCee since it has less addiction potential. That way he will also trust you as well.

With kava, I'd give online orders a shot. I think I've already mentioned my go-to vendor on here...

And don't worry about ranting. I love a good rant myself. :P

 
I don't think that you can have a hierarchy - unless you are looking for strength or half-life.

Different benzos are intended for different conditions. Giving somebody with a certain condition the wrong benzo, may not be as effective as another, for example.

 
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