Guns...

johnnog said:
The flowers in my hair died years ago,last seen rotting in a dustbin..

guns aint legal to carry and conceal unless your a cop over here,though you can join a gun club and use shotguns supervised,clay pigeon shooting etc,got no desire to waste money doing that with a bunch of rich spoilt brats who make up the membership of most of those places,the sort of people who rule our country,if i have anything to hate its those uber millionaires with no grasp of reality that most of us live in,we are ruled by fucking sociopaths who will stop at nothing to achieve what they want,a whole load of people without money forced to move out of the city because its being bought up by rich fuckers,they don't want the poor spoiling the landscape so are making life as hard as they can for them,sky high rents,everything costs shitloads more so you can be in a job and handing most of your wage over to just exist,it won't be to long before some of us will be shipped out to camps where we will live and work well away from the money masters,a pox on all their houses,no empire has lasted for ever,somethings going to erupt at some point and it isn't going to be nice

I tell you what,after being mugged twice in one week a few years ago i was going around wishing i had one,i would have prob blasted those fuckers off the planet at the time,but i didn't,i went home,turned on the old playstation 1 and blasted my way through Duke Nuke em,that was the first game i manged to finish every level.

Now you see what has been achieved by this discussion started by another member,arguments and division,that's just what the elite want,they don't want the mass of people to connect and start to want something better than what we have ended up with,but it won't happen on a mass scale,its already happening in areas all over the place at grass roots levels,communities that actually speak with their neighbors and help one and other,we have a huge area of once waste land that local people have turned into a place to grow food,everyone on my little estate looks out for each other when we can,we have our own intranet network,i pay £3 a month for it,no line rental costs to big phone companies that let our rulers spy on us,people put on regular social nights where you can eat a good meal for a very low price,if my bikes bust i go to the bike club and get it fixed for basically nothing,we share what we don't need anymore with someone who needs it for free.There's lots of little communities springing up doing similar stuff,another world is possible,not some doped up fucked up hippy pipe dream-i won't live on my knees i'd rather die on my feet.

Excuse my language its English.
Personally, I blame all our problems on the Dutch.

 
HaHaHa...I just did a spit=take all over my keyboard.

Is that a cheap shot at our resident law student?

 
We have a resident law student? Rut roh!

johnnog said:
The flowers in my hair died years ago,last seen rotting in a dustbin..

guns aint legal to carry and conceal unless your a cop over here,though you can join a gun club and use shotguns supervised,clay pigeon shooting etc,got no desire to waste money doing that with a bunch of rich spoilt brats who make up the membership of most of those places,the sort of people who rule our country,if i have anything to hate its those uber millionaires with no grasp of reality that most of us live in,we are ruled by fucking sociopaths who will stop at nothing to achieve what they want,a whole load of people without money forced to move out of the city because its being bought up by rich fuckers,they don't want the poor spoiling the landscape so are making life as hard as they can for them,sky high rents,everything costs shitloads more so you can be in a job and handing most of your wage over to just exist,it won't be to long before some of us will be shipped out to camps where we will live and work well away from the money masters,a pox on all their houses,no empire has lasted for ever,somethings going to erupt at some point and it isn't going to be nice

I tell you what,after being mugged twice in one week a few years ago i was going around wishing i had one,i would have prob blasted those fuckers off the planet at the time,but i didn't,i went home,turned on the old playstation 1 and blasted my way through Duke Nuke em,that was the first game i manged to finish every level.

Now you see what has been achieved by this discussion started by another member,arguments and division,that's just what the elite want,they don't want the mass of people to connect and start to want something better than what we have ended up with,but it won't happen on a mass scale,its already happening in areas all over the place at grass roots levels,communities that actually speak with their neighbors and help one and other,we have a huge area of once waste land that local people have turned into a place to grow food,everyone on my little estate looks out for each other when we can,we have our own intranet network,i pay £3 a month for it,no line rental costs to big phone companies that let our rulers spy on us,people put on regular social nights where you can eat a good meal for a very low price,if my bikes bust i go to the bike club and get it fixed for basically nothing,we share what we don't need anymore with someone who needs it for free.There's lots of little communities springing up doing similar stuff,another world is possible,not some doped up fucked up hippy pipe dream-i won't live on my knees i'd rather die on my feet.

Excuse my language its English.
I feel no division with my gun hating fellow men. Only the need to educate them. Unfortunately, once some realize the truth and accept the education and facts, it will be because they could not defend themselves and have lost something or someone. I feel strongly that if I keep sharing my thoughts, one person may listen and consider. Maybe one thing I say could help save someone. I love my non-Gun toting fellows, I am deeply in love with one. They choose to beleive that guns equal violence. What they fail to realize is that there will ALWAYS be criminals with guns. Gun control laws will never stop that. War on guns, war on drugs....same futile battle. So yes, we must be prepared. Having a gun does not mean you will ever shoot someone. When and if you do, in those VERY rare instances, it will be to save yourself or somoeone else. It is worth it. We need to value ourselves more than we do and AND BE PREPARED. Thats all. It is really very simple.
 
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WOW... Did I say that I'm laughing about school shootings? Nor sir. I said: We are laughing about those idiots telling everyone, AFTER school shootings, to gear up. We cannot understand that YOU cannot understand that guns kill people. My reaction is not ment to be sick. I think killing children is such and having guns is sick. Over here we don't have guns and, consequently, we DONT have any shootings...

Tyranny? Seriously? What the hell are you talking about.
This is what is just stupefying to me....the statement that "guns kill people". No they dont. Guns are in animate objects.
I also agree with my girl Teal Green up there that not everyone should own a gun. And everyone that does should be required a psych eval and a certain number of hours of education. Most definitely! If you compare the amount of gun "accidents" to armed criminals tho...it is nominal.

 
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I just exercised my second amendment rights and purchased a firearm for home protection.

And Cat I am planning on taking gun safety classes as well as going to a target range regularly to practice.

 
I just exercised my second amendment rights and purchased a firearm for home protection.

And Cat I am planning on taking gun safety classes as well as going to a target range regularly to practice.
Cool. Do you mind me asking what you purchased. Several years ago I bought a Sid P229 .40 cal S&W. It was before I had kids and now it's really more for recreation (target shooting) than home defense. I keep so deeply locked away, LOL. And I hardly go shooting anymore either, but it's a nice piece and I take good care of it so it should last forever.

 
Sure man. I talked with the sales guy and we talked about the best choice for my needs.

Ruger .357.  Popular model for home protection.

I also have a .177 and for you non-guns owners that's a BB gun!

 
Sure man. I talked with the sales guy and we talked about the best choice for my needs.

Ruger .357.  Popular model for home protection.

I also have a .177 and for you non-guns owners that's a BB gun!
Nice..My sister has a .357 long barrel six shooter..It's old school, but bad ass..!! The perfect weapon for home protection, (besides a short barrel 12 gauge) It will put a hole the size of a 50 cent piece through a target!!

 
johnnog said:
jeez,you guys could form an army,what are you all so scared of to be getting guns?

If you go out hunting and eat what you killed thats ok,we can only get air rifles to shoot rabbits,not me personally but a mate does that who lives on the land,rabbits eat his veg crops so he kills and eats them.

I aint 100% comfortable with meat bought from big stores from factory farms,fuck knows what goes on in those places,disease ridden meat,eggs or milk,all the chemicals they put in animal feed,and people wonder why anti-biotics don't work for them.
John all this is your forfathers fault. Damn Redcoats attacked our country over 200 hundred years ago and we had to defend ourselves.

We just keep 'em around in case you guys come back.

 
Alcohol abuse is rife in the UK. Our government decide they like the population to binge on alcohol, it keeps us stupid.

But, yes, looking from the outside in to the US, gun ownership seems madness.

 
Damn it. I just wrote a massive response but my machine crashed. I'll try again later.

 
johnnog said:
Doubt we'll be coming back HB,this country has spunked all the money on god knows what,or so they say,personally i know the uk is sitting on a lot of wealth they just don't want to distribute it for decent things.

Btw,i doubt any of my forefathers were involved,being half irish/welsh and god knows what else my ancestors were probably getting treated bad by the english as well.

Even some parts of the uk population are still being treated badly by the english government.Nasty bunch we have ruling us.

Apparently if anyone wants to start a demonstration march they might have to pay for it,thats free speach for ya,double dutch or double speak either way is slowly but surely coming to some kind of complete lockdown and the vast population has let them do it.

I saw on the fromt of a newspaper here recently some chief cop wants cctv in every home,so they want to watch me on the bog/john every morning,thats called being a pervert really,personally i pray for a big asteroid to hit us every night but so far i'm being ignored.

Can we all join hands and pray together?LMAO!

Your funny HB,you crack me up sometimes,good luck to you and please be carefull with those guns,don't wish any of you to come to any harm(unless the asteroid hits but i'll be going along with youz all).
Call me each morning, I'll jump on the "bog" and we'll pray together. We can Skype if you like.

 
johnnog said:
Or Israel with their missile defense dome would do that.I wonder how many people own firearms in the US?I'm amazed that a government like the us would still allow citizens to have guns,if thousands or hundreds of thousands got together and decided they'd had enough of the government there would possibly be a civil war,the cops don't seem to hesitate shooting people dead over there with impunity,so i doubt soldiers or the national guard would think twice about shooting their own citizens.I don't live there so don't know how many have guns.

Is it legal in every state or do some states not allow firearms?

It does look crazy looking from the outside but people in other countries have the conception that the uk is full of drunks fighting and young gangs going around stabbing and shooting each other.Its not like that everywhere and the drunkeness is usually people winding down at the weekend after having worked far too many hours for shit wages.
Guns are legal in every U.S. state, only limited in certain states to the number of bullets in a magazine. It's our 2nd Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution for the "right to bear arms."  If you are a felon, or mental, you are not allowed to own a firearm legally in the states. I live in a state where most large capacity mags are legal, and most everyone owns a gun. I have one particular firearm that holds 32 rounds.  States like California, New York, Illinois, etc are limed to guns that hold 10 rounds of ammo or less. Automatic weapons are obviously illegal, unless you have the money and correct paperwork to own one, which is pretty expensive, and can cost 15k or more. If the government tried to take our guns, it would be an ugly bloody mess...!!

 
johnnog said:
i get it,people just want to protect themselves,big shame that theres so many nuts out there with access to guns mind.
You have to understand, that Millions of Americans have owned Millions of guns for hundreds of years. This is a way of life for many people. 99% of us are responsible gun owners, and many people use guns not only as protection, but to hunt food, shoot clay pigeons for sport, or simply as recreation at a shooting range. It's the other 1% of people who cause problems...The old saying is still true. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"!! ( as well as automobiles, knives, drugs, you name it..)

 
Every American should own a least one unregistered gun just in case the government tries to take guns away some day in the future

 
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