http://www.ttm2u.com/ AVOID

[jc21np]

Man I hope youre right Jewbacca.

I tried this place once recently and they were excellent.

 

[Casablanca]

I hope it has nothing to do with Top10, but still a concern: 

http://www.balancingact-africa.com/news/en/issue-no-158/web-and-mobile-data/illegal-internet-pha/en

 

[Nygiantsfan9202]

I hope it has nothing to do with Top10, but still a concern: 

http://www.balancingact-africa.com/news/en/issue-no-158/web-and-mobile-data/illegal-internet-pha/en

I notice the pub. date is June 20, 2013 for that issue. Hopefully, TTM wasn't next on the list. Thanks for the link.

 

[Jewbacca]

I hope it has nothing to do with Top10, but still a concern:

http://www.balancingact-africa.com/news/en/issue-no-158/web-and-mobile-data/illegal-internet-pha/en

Excellent catch Casablanca. What concerns me is that I've never run across any other South African vendor fitting this description, although that by no means confirms anything, as I'm not the end all authority on South African vendors.

Regardless, and if nothing else, this DOES tell us two things. One, South Africa is obviously being proactive in their domestic enforcement actions, and two, US customs will certainly be subjecting inbound parcels from South Africa to enhanced scrutiny. Time will tell the tale.....

Nice work

 

[Bojangles69]

Ok so.. I'm no genius, but I do have an IQ of 170. Thanks to the fact that I watch tv.

And if you can't find any signs of life after the first 48 hours, the probability raises to 90% that they're not alive.

I don't mean to be the negative nancy of this group, but my instincts never lie to me.

What you have all learned to love and adore as "top10meds", has now become "top10toast".

Sorry if I sound so detached, so let me be more serious. I use to be a member on the DB forums. When this

use to happen, there was always that 1 person who was buddy buddy with the owner, and had their alternate

email... name of their dog and wife etc. Are their emails down too? There's got to be a way to get more information 

on this. So people don't sit around sulking for 10 years waiting for their favorite IOP to come back.

Didn't someone say they recieved a confirmation AFTER the site went down?

Where did that confirmation come from? Can you respond to the address and ask whats going on?

I know theres not that many people on this forum, but there's got to be someone who can reach the owner.

Someone with an IQ like mine, who has actually ordered from this place before.  /default_tongue.png

 

[davemustang]

@jewbacca, that is certainly disturbing unless TTM somehow granted consent to anonymous speech to answer concerned customer email requests. Would that be unusual?

Agreed.

 

[Jewbacca]

Ok so.. I'm no genius, but I do have an IQ of 170. Thanks to the fact that I watch tv.

And if you can't find any signs of life after the first 48 hours, the probability raises to 90% that they're not alive.

I don't mean to be the negative nancy of this group, but my instincts never lie to me.

What you have all learned to love and adore as "top10meds", has now become "top10toast".

Sorry if I sound so detached, so let me be more serious. I use to be a member on the DB forums. When this

use to happen, there was always that 1 person who was buddy buddy with the owner, and had their alternate

email... name of their dog and wife etc. Are their emails down too? There's got to be a way to get more information 

on this. So people don't sit around sulking for 10 years waiting for their favorite IOP to come back.

Didn't someone say they recieved a confirmation AFTER the site went down?

Where did that confirmation come from? Can you respond to the address and ask whats going on?

I know theres not that many people on this forum, but there's got to be someone who can reach the owner.

Someone with an IQ like mine, who has actually ordered from this place before.  /default_tongue.png

Well, an IQ of 170 would in fact make you a genius, so there's that. While my earlier statements are diametrically opposed to your instincts, I'm certainly not going to insist nor guarantee that you're instincts are wrong. You very well may be right, at least in part, but as I said, time will tell the tale. The one part of your post that I will disagree with is the analogy to missing persons. While it's absolutely true that the chances of a missing person being found alive greatly diminish after they've been missing for more than 48 hours, there really isn't a parallel to be drawn between that phenomena and that of internet pharmacy sites / vendors going dark. I wrote at length about DBG's own issues of a few weeks back, and those of Anonymous Speech (and their ICANN policy compliance), who coincidentally is the registrar for both DBG's domains as well as TTM's. Does that mean that the reason for DBG going dark for a few days is the same as TTM's? Absolutely not. However, there ARE a number of factors that can cause a domain or website to be taken down by the registrar and / or host that go no further than that, are are not necessarily indicative of adverse legal enforcement issues. Further, the factors that I reference can sometimes take multiple days and / or weeks to resolve, depending upon the specific situation and the resolution strategy. As an example, my company, in it's early days, hosted our website on an inexpensive shared hosting plan, with hundreds of sites on the same IP address. One of them wound up being some spam operation, which got the IP address, as well as every URL on that IP address, blacklisted with SpamHaus, and 90%+ of our outgoing emails began bouncing back. We immediately changed over to a dedicated IP / hosting plan, but by then the damage had been done, and it took me almost a month to reverse all of it. I realize that whatever is going on with TTM is probably quite a bit different than my example, but the point being, domain and site / hosting related issues can sometimes be much more involved in terms of crafting a solution than just making a few phone calls, and they can certainly take more than 48 hours to resolve.

At this point, I see no reason to presume that TTM as a vendor is gone, never to return. I do agree, however, that the specific URL that they have been using is likely "toast", to borrow your term, but that's purely conjecture on my part. As for your assertion that some member of DBG possesses the ability to reach the owner and receive concrete answers, I again must disagree. One must keep in mind the nature of the business we're talking about here, and owners of such enterprises generally don't hand out business cards and make their ownership of the enterprise known. At least not to anyone other than those with an absolute "need to know". In my 20+ years of operating a business catering to the financial needs of professional athletes and others in very public businesses, I've learned a few things about those who place a high value on discretion and privacy, and I can assure you that whomever the principals of TTM are, they certainly would not divulge that information to any customer, particularly in this industry. I'm quite certain that this will seem perfectly logical to someone of your intellect.

While I certainly agree that it would be preferable for TTM's customer base to have concrete knowledge of their fate in this situation, the reality is that the masses won't know until such time as they want them to know. Or, in the case of a "doomsday" scenario, when the media lets them know. In the meantime, the only sensible thing to do is to go about one's daily business, hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend, and take care.....

Jewy

 

[Gator]

"Ok so.. I'm no genius, but I do have an IQ of 170. Thanks to the fact that I watch tv."

LOL! If this isn't a joke then you in fact are not a genius and you're full of shit about your IQ. Anyone who brags about a test score losses a lot of credibility in my book anyway, especially one who compares an online site to a missing person lol not very logical for someone with such a high intelligence quotient...but hey I'm just a non mentally challenged guy with an IQ of 30 so what do I know

 

[ps2556]

i agree wit ur posts jewbacca and that south african raid it sells custermers filled out questionnaires an got a fake perscription wit it. they'll be back give it bout a week

 

[opiated999]

I'm hoping Jewy & ps2556 are right, questionnaires..but sometimes certain dis information, or lack of facts snow ball. I certainly would love to see them back. Like everyone else. Opiated-

 

[ps2556]

nah ttm never did questionnaire,the 1 raided in SA was reporting as thats hw customers did ther transactions wit that other site that was raided

 

[Gator]

Maybe TT just closed because he felt the heat coming down and wanted to get out while he had the chance, maybe he'll be back, maybe not..

 

[Wildcard]

I totally agree Gator.  They maybe had to make a run for it.  

In a previous post by Johnogg (post 2214), he states that there may have been some kind of "audit" going on.  

Who knows, another speculation, but maybe some "beans" were missing, and somebody had to answer for it. Ya never know.. Thought about it and it does make sense...There may be several reasons for the quick disappear.

Unusual, because when some sites I used who were working on things, they would announce they would be offline until the "upgrades" were complete.

 

[Jewbacca]

Maybe TT just closed because he felt the heat coming down and wanted to get out while he had the chance, maybe he'll be back, maybe not..

This theory is as plausible as any. Particularly given the date of that South African bust noted in Casablanca's linked article. A peer of similar size going down just around the corner would certainly warm up the room in a hurry.

 

[HikesWithaGSD]

Here's an article that sounds exactly the same as the one linked above. This one is dated June 5th, 2003. Even if the year is a typo and supposed to be 2013, TTM was still having great success after that so I don't think this has anything to do with TTM.

http://www.dww.com/?p=736#more-736

 

[Nygiantsfan9202]

Here's an article that sounds exactly the same as the one linked above. This one is dated June 5th, 2003. Even if the year is a typo and supposed to be 2013, TTM was still having great success after that so I don't think this has anything to do with TTM.

http://www.dww.com/?p=736#more-736

You know after I read this I went back and checked my date reference and it may have been wrong.  I clicked on "Issue no 158" link on the original article since there is no date on the article in the original link that @casablanca provided and on the right side says "Broadcast Issue no. 158 - 20 June 2013". However this is actually a link to a different section of articles.  Bottom line is that June 5th, 2003 may in fact be the original date of the @casablanca article given the similarities.  That would give me more hope for TTM.  I am going to look into it further in the meantime and see if I can dig something up.

in the meantime, mod can you delete my post 9:55PM yesterday for possible incorrect information until we can confirm

 

[snowfox]

My favorite IOP is in jeopardy of disappearing :/  I would hate to have this happen, they are an excellent company, very customer-oriented.

 

[Nygiantsfan9202]

Here's an article that sounds exactly the same as the one linked above. This one is dated June 5th, 2003. Even if the year is a typo and supposed to be 2013, TTM was still having great success after that so I don't think this has anything to do with TTM.

http://www.dww.com/?p=736#more-736

Ok well THIS article is definitely from 2003, the other articles in the same publication include court cases that were documented back in 2003 including an ebay lawsuit.  Given the similarities it is pretty safe to say it is the actual date of the @casablanca article.  Jewbacca, thoughts?

 

[Jewbacca]

Ok well THIS article is definitely from 2003, the other articles in the same publication include court cases that were documented back in 2003 including an ebay lawsuit. Given the similarities it is pretty safe to say it is the actual date of the @casablanca article. Jewbacca, thoughts?

Yes. I noticed the similarities, but it's hard to be certain. Really though, all of this is nothing more than conjecture on all of our parts, and as much as we'd all like to know the real story behind this situation, we're probably not likely to find any public information, at least not for quite a while, if ever.

I say this because there simply may not be anything to report. I'll use Starlite as a case in point. There were no known bigger picture enforcement actions in Jim's part of the world at the time SL went dark, and there is still no definitive information out there regarding what happened. With both SL and TTM, there is the distinct possibility they went offline and out of sight because they saw some writing on the wall, so to speak, and opted to get out (at least for a while) for their own protection. On the other hand, it could be something domain related that will resolve itself fairly quickly. My point being, unless it turns out to be a legal enforcement action that is announced publicly, we may never know. The best thing anyone can do at this point is invest their time planning for their own medical future, and in the short term anyway, proceed under the assumption that TTM is not coming back. As I said last night, hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Everything else is just conversation.

 

[arklight]

with that May 2 thing looming over them and after taking effect they were just pushing everything to the limit and making money. now its over. just hope it will pop up somewhere else soon