http://www.ttm2u.com/ AVOID

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Top10meds should do the right thing and look after this long term supremely loyal customer before they lose many more as a result.

My mentor in life always told me, "You make one happy customer and they may tell 5 others of the experience. But if you make an unhappy customer, they are likely to tell hundreds of people the bad experience."

Point is, make sure you're customer is satisfied or the long term results will inevitably financially hurt the company.

Myself, I will never order or recommended one to order from this IOP for the very reasons how they have mistreated, lied, and harassed a good decent DBG member of ours - Jammass. I would add more, but for personal reasons, I shall say no more.

Slammer

 
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Top10meds should do the right thing
Do the right thing, indeed! It involves taking care of a customer that used to say nothing but good things about them AND putting an immediate halt to the sale of their terrible fake hydro. They know it's fake, but they continue to cheat people with it. If they would just stick to selling the real benzos they have, they'd still be making plenty of money.

 
Top10meds, I know you and your puppets read the forums, so get on it and rectify this problem before it becomes worse.

I'm serious.

 
Yes, indeed he is. I'll vouch for that fact as well. The Jew Crew doesn't play games. I'm sure there are several who would vouch for that as well. Fix the problem Top10Meds, post haste.

 
Just be aware that what you are taking is not really hydro. Someone on another forum sent in a "hydro" from top 10 to ED.org and here were the results http://www.ecstasyda...ew.php?id=2440. Be careful taking too many as you are likely to fall asleep fast due to the benadryl in there.
For several reasons, I decided to investigate Top10 further, including the "disclosure" present on their website regarding what they are selling as hydrocodone. Two things are of note. First, in their rather lengthy disclosure, which I would categorize as more of a low class defensive rant, they make the following claim in defense of recently referenced lab testing that indicates that their product is in fact codeine:

"Even with gc/ms (gas chromatography/mass spectrometry) tests and ms/ms tests which are generally regarded as very accurate there have still been instances where these tests have been discredited in court due to the conditions under which the tests were done or the possibility of false positives due to very similar chemical structures of compounds, which could be the case here"

Research confirms that not only is GC/MS testing the most accurate available today, it is also universally accepted in legal jurisdictions as absolute and authoritative. The only exception, as with any testing, would be some sort of tampering with the material being tested, or its contamination. However, if this were alleged, the solution is simple. Offer some of your product for independent re-testing by several unaffiliated labs. Of course, they don't appear interested in taking advantage of this simple, ready solution. Further, their claim of false positives due to very similar chemical structures of compounds is pure bunk and made-up pseudo-science. In fact, GC/MS is the preferred method of testing of standard 5 and 10 panel screens for just this reason, which is its ability to differentiate compounds of highly similar structures.

The second item of note is that they claim that this product, which they call Dicod301, is "produced by a local State facility for use in State hospitals only. They are not commercially available. How we come to be able to procure them is a story not for the telling". Not commercially available, eh? How convenient. That being said, I can certainly believe the part about this story not being one they want told. Through my personal research, as well as having received confirmation from a business contact in Johannesburg, I can assure you that neither the South African government, nor those of any of their 9 provinces, own, operate or control any pharmaceutical manufacturing operations, nor do they source the manufacturing of any pharmaceutical product(s) via contract agreement with any private sector manufacturer. So, once again, this claim is nothing but bunk. The name of the medication "Dicod301" is not registered with any trademark or patent authority anywhere in the world, and it's name and appearance in the website photo are nothing more than a cheap attempt to copy Dicodid, which is a pure hydrocodone tablet / capsule, approved for use only in Germany as an antitussive.

I can personally speak to Dicodid, which I purchased once from a now defunct IOP back in 2005. I found it to be rather weak when not used in combination with ibuprofen, and generally similar to comparable doses of US hydrocodone formulations when taken with said ibuprofen. Given the lab reports as well as customer reviews indicating the weakness of the product and the dose required to achieve adequate analgesia, I'm quite confident in saying that this product is in fact codeine, formulated with the antihistamine cyclizine, largely for nausea prevention.

As a final note, we've certainly seen the market forces at work of late with the rising prices of DHC vs hydrocodone and other popular western PK medications, as well as the increased costs of those same popular western medications. If this product were in fact hydrocodone as stated, then my question would be why is Top10Meds so incredibly charitable as to offer customers hydrocodone at 1/3 of market value? They're not a global charity, they're an IOP, and personally, I've never seen an IOP that priced their products at 1/3 of market just to be nice to people. Give me a break. If codeine is your substance of choice, then by all means, but it can be had cheaper than this "Dicod301" product, and from more reliable, reputable vendors at that.

 
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Top10meds, I know you and your puppets read the forums, so get on it and rectify this problem before it becomes worse.

I'm serious.


UPDATE



Problem solved. Money refunded in FULL to our well respected member Jammass.

Thanks friends for helping to apply truthful pressure and information about a certain "bunk" med of theirs, to an unfortunate turn events conducted by Top10Meds.

Shame on that IOP to have allowed this customer related issue to go on this far and then resort to unscrupulous business behavior in more ways than one.

Period.

Slammer

 
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This IOP is off my list it has been 14 days for my 2nd order that has gone lost. Well i have 300 less in my wallet. 2 order gone missing? I think he never sent the orders and just took my money. Anyone that knows of there canadian success please msg me!thanks

 
The reason is money. Still I do like their benzos and the dirt cheap prices. Still as I said before I suggest SL's D10's which rock!

I really wish Top10 wouldn't do that. They go into such a ridiculous 'explanation' on why their hydro really is hydro, but it's total BS. Some of their benzos are actually benzos, so I don't see any reason for them to lie about their lousy pain meds other than to make that extra buck.
 
Nicely said. I never understood why a vendor who seems to be legit would have items like this. Same deal for SS4U who I know has good benzos from personal experience HOWEVER they sell fake hydro too. WTF!!!!!!

No offense intended to anyone who orders from this outfit, but frankly, I'm surprised there aren't even MORE sham IOP's out there. Look at it from this perspective. Put up a website, advertise any number of products, take orders, don't ship orders, and then tell your customers it must have gotten seized, or send them a bunk LL, and then tell them you don't reship. I imagine there are a number of people out there making quite a living that way. And if you actually have a few real products, actually ship those and get good reviews, then put some horse sh*t on your site about how your proven to be counterfeit meds are actually "real" based on some pseudo-scientific garbage that people buy because your benzos are good. I just sit here and scratch my head wondering why people continue to send people like this their hard earned money as a free gift.

If there were simply no other benzo sources on earth, maybe I could understand taking a chance out of desperation, but there are real, proven and reputable sources of both PK's and benzos right here on this forum. There simply is no reason to deal with crooked vendors like this, and yes, if you're selling even one product you know to be counterfeit, you're crooked. If I'm wrong here, please feel free to educate me, and again, no offense intended. I just can't stand seeing people get taken over and over again.
 
But hey atleast SS4U will reship even if its been seized 5 times... he even sent it to me threw fast shipping while top10meds wont even bother with there customers, yeah there hydros are fake but research there items before buying right?

 
This IOP is off my list it has been 14 days for my 2nd order that has gone lost. Well i have 300 less in my wallet. 2 order gone missing? I think he never sent the orders and just took my money. Anyone that knows of there canadian success please msg me!thanks
My most recent order with TTM was split into two parts. Part one is M.I.A. Part two arrived in the usual fourteen days. Packaging method has been changed, possibly due to seizures? I never had a problem with their old packaging so I'm not sure why they've changed it.

Canada customs stopped sending out LL's (at least in my part of Canuck land) a long time ago so you're never going to know for sure if your package was seized or never shipped.

 
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My most recent order with TTM was split into two parts. Part one is M.I.A. Part two arrived in the usual fourteen days. Packaging method has been changed, possibly due to seizures? I never had a problem with their old packaging so I'm not sure why they've changed it.

Canada customs stopped sending out LL's (at least in my part of Canuck land) a long time ago so you're never going to know for sure if your package was seized or never shipped.
Nice post and especially useful info for Canadian members to take note of:

First of all, I too noticed that Canada Customs had stopped sending out LL for II never did receive one despite my orders NEVER arriving.. No doubt it's partially a budget saving matter as well as a Custom's workers thinking" Why bother telling the buyer for we can't do anything substantial to the them, so we might as well make them wait with a false sense of anticipation as it 'might; still be on it's way." Not!

Second thing I'm really wondering about is in what way/aspect did they change their method of packaging. From day one, I was never happy with their packaging style despite Top10Meds claiming it was discreet. Hardly so, in my opinion for half of my orders (50%) were seized and I could easily see why after I saw how they were so poorly packaged.

Anyways, discussing specifics of packaging details is a BIG NO NO directly on the public forum, however, if you don't mind, could you plz PM some info on their new packaging style and if you feel it's a definite improvement or not and ultimately more discreet than before.

Thanks in advance Cougar,

Slammer

 
For what it is worth I just received a pack of a hard to get IOP item they stock and the packaging was identical to what it has always been at least on my orders. Perhaps they change it up here and there to be safe. Again so far mine always look the same.

Nice post and especially useful info for Canadian members to take note of:

First of all, I too noticed that Canada Customs had stopped sending out LL for II never did receive one despite my orders NEVER arriving.. No doubt it's partially a budget saving matter as well as a Custom's workers thinking" Why bother telling the buyer for we can't do anything substantial to the them, so we might as well make them wait with a false sense of anticipation as it 'might; still be on it's way." Not!

Second thing I'm really wondering about is in what way/aspect did they change their method of packaging. From day one, I was never happy with their packaging style despite Top10Meds claiming it was discreet. Hardly so, in my opinion for half of my orders (50%) were seized and I could easily see why after I saw how they were so poorly packaged.

Anyways, discussing specifics of packaging details is a BIG NO NO directly on the public forum, however, if you don't mind, could you plz PM some info on their new packaging style and if you feel it's a definite improvement or not and ultimately more discreet than before.

Thanks in advance Cougar,

Slammer
 
For what it is worth I just received a pack of a hard to get IOP item they stock and the packaging was identical to what it has always been at least on my orders. Perhaps they change it up here and there to be safe. Again so far mine always look the same.
I've been ordering the same two products from TTM for a few months and on previous orders, everything was shipped in one package. Maybe because they shipped the two products seperately this time, the packaging is different than what I'm used to.

 
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How about paypal or CC?

Check out Clickremedy.com

They are on this site, and for Tramadol, they were super each and every time.

 
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Hey guys i wanna take my post back I recieved my Order today, must of been something with Canada post. I will Update with results of Ativan 1 mg.

 
Thank you all for your help and support and I will also thank TTM for my refund as I am not a grudge bearer and there is more than them out there which is what I think this company just needs to bare in mind and not just rely on cheap prices alone I would rather pay a little more and know it is gonna get to me.

Once again love the family on here and long may this site be here.

 
Thank you all for your help and support and I will also thank TTM for my refund as I am not a grudge bearer and there is more than them out there which is what I think this company just needs to bare in mind and not just rely on cheap prices alone I would rather pay a little more and know it is gonna get to me.

Once again love the family on here and long may this site be here.
No problems at all, Jammass. That's what friends are for.

It burned my ass knowing that this company which you were 100% loyal towards, even to the point off some idiots thinking you were a shill for them, would do such a back-handed thing to you - of all people.

But as you allude to, bearing grudges is not the way to go and proceed in life.

Keep the posts coming. Though probably not from this thread. But, you have a lot of experience in this arena and what you often have to say is very well respected coming from a person who has "lived" the life.

All the best. Your Bro you never had,

Slammer

 
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