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I recently ordered tr*ms from TTM and it was legit. However my neighbor ordered 60mg cod from them and he reported that either there was no cod in them or there was very little and rest filler. He got the runs after which was strange because opis typically constipate you. He's a solid guy so I believe him.

Looks like the consensus on this board is stay away from all PKs (except tr*ms) from TTM but rest of product line seems ok.

 
I've tried the Eph, worthless IMO.
Placed 2 orders:

03/07/2014 - 30 Ritalin arrived in less than 10 days.

16/07/2014 - 30 Ritalin + 60 Ephedrine seperately packaged. Both arrived within 10 days.

Prices are a bit high but the Ritalin is good quality. The ephedrine put me to sleep, but I've had opposite reactions to other stimulants, so this may just be what my brain does on ephedrine. YMMV.
Ya ive heard the effedrin3 is not that great. Be sure to let us know how they turn out.

 
I recently ordered tr*ms from TTM and it was legit. However my neighbor ordered 60mg cod from them and he reported that either there was no cod in them or there was very little and rest filler. He got the runs after which was strange because opis typically constipate you. He's a solid guy so I believe him.

Looks like the consensus on this board is stay away from all PKs (except tr*ms) from TTM but rest of product line seems ok.
You know, I don't order from TTM after I had the disaster with their 60 mg cdn and saw others with serious problems with it, so I don't understand the rabid following they seem to have. On two other forums, if you even attempt to mention they shipped fake cdn that made people sick, others will attack you and call you a liar. I see people on several forums reporting some of their meds being good and others being fakes and some being weak, etc. such that it's clear they sell a mix of full strength and weak and fake meds, yet they still have a reputation for being one of the "top" IOPs.

I don't mean that to be an attack on TTM or its followers as much a comment on my puzzlement as to why they have such a passionate fan base.

 
Just remember that Doval stopped production of their brand name product in October of 2010, so everything is at least that old (or fake - they quit making them because of all of the counterfeiting of them.) Not saying theirs are fake, they may have purchased a big stash of some stored somewhere, just be aware.

Of all the diazepam brands TTM's sell, I find the Dovals to be the best and most consistant.  The Beta's are too hit or miss - even in the same batch.  The Pax are always short-dated, and once their expiry date is up, they are about as affective as sugar pills.

I find it hard to believe the Dovals are either over 4 years old or fake!  And why would anyone fake a generic drug, surely they would be more likely to fake the brand name (i.e. Roche Valium) that sells for 10x the price?

Please provide a source for the information you posted, as I have searched exhaustively and cannot collaborate your statements.

 
I provided this info and reference earlier in another thread, and it is pretty well known in the industry, but I'll repost it here:

Actually, the manufacturer stopped producing them in 2010. You can go to their website and check. Don't wanna say too much about myself, but I work in the pharma industry. Some info:The brand name Doval is/was from the South African company, here is their website: http://www.pharm.co.za/about-us

If you look in their annual report for 2010 you can see the comments on their discontinuation of the product.

While I am really ignorant in a lot of areas, there is a reason that I have access to and know how to run a GC/MS, LC, NMR, and other pieces of very expensive analytical found in the lab of a pharmaceutical company.
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Doval was made by Pharmaceutical Enterprises in South Africa for many years, and they ceased manufacture of that product in October 2010. I think it doesn't give too much info up about me that I can say I was involved in one of their early ISO 9001 audits in their labs and one of their production facilities. I believe if you go to their web site (linked above) and search for Doval it will show "not found". On other forums this has been discussed and documented quite a bit.

I found one of the references on PTY LTD's discontinuation of the Doval manufacture back in 10/2010: The source of the data is from page 2915, and from page 3612, Volume B, of the Martindale 37th edition, for the year 2011/2012, page 3612, and, Volume A, page 1098, under, the subtitle, Anxiolytic Sedatives Hypnotics and Antipsychotics from the 131st year of publication of Pharmaceutical Press, 2011, the publishing division of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain. ISBN 978-0-85369-933-0 and ISSN 0263-5364 by Pharmaceutical Press, 1 Lambeth High Street, London, SEI 7JN UK.

I doubt most people have that in their bookshelves which is why I gave the ISBN and ISSN, you can look it up at your local library.

They actually commented back in 2010 when they made the decision that the profits had plummeted due to massive counterfeiting in the industry, and that their future decisions on which drugs to develop and sell would be shaped by wide spread counterfeiting of so many items in many parts of the world. 

FWIW

 
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I recently ordered tr*ms from TTM and it was legit. However my neighbor ordered 60mg cod from them and he reported that either there was no cod in them or there was very little and rest filler. He got the runs after which was strange because opis typically constipate you. He's a solid guy so I believe him.

Looks like the consensus on this board is stay away from all PKs (except tr*ms) from TTM but rest of product line seems ok.
Funny, I never noticed Tr@ms listed on ttm before.

Have they always been there or were they part of the recent additions?

Anyway, thanks for the report mrsjones. 

- VS 

 
Of all the diazepam brands TTM's sell, I find the Dovals to be the best and most consistant.  The Beta's are too hit or miss - even in the same batch.  The Pax are always short-dated, and once their expiry date is up, they are about as affective as sugar pills.

I find it hard to believe the Dovals are either over 4 years old or fake!  And why would anyone fake a generic drug, surely they would be more likely to fake the brand name (i.e. Roche Valium) that sells for 10x the price?

Please provide a source for the information you posted, as I have searched exhaustively and cannot collaborate your statements.
i'm not doubting sciatic's information at all- just chiming in to agree with you about the Dovals. Maybe they are old and expired- but I prefer them over TTM's other brands. They can't be fake. I mean, I realize people can have placebo effects from fake meds- but I would have been in serious benzo withdrawal if there was nothing in them, right? And I was in wd once or twice upon awaiting my TTM package and a couple of dovals snapped me out of it. I'm quite familiar with how valium feels from experience of several different brands and generics. For some reason- the Dovals worked so good for me that I took less mgs/day than I did with the Pax, some of AMC's diaz, and sometimes the betas. (my last order of betas i received this month feel weaker than usual though)  anyway- expired or not- they worked.  i've knowingly taken expired soma and perc0cet before that still worked wonders. and i think it was last year i found a bananakin that was from a 2007 order- i took it and it knocked me out!

so, yeah.. probably shouldn't take expired meds, but i'm just saying they worked. maybe i'll try some different brands next time though, now that i hear this.

 
Remember that if they are kept cool and dry diaz does not easily degrade, so they are probably not much worse a couple of years after they degrade. The fact that they are past expiration may be why they are pretty cheap, though I don't buy them so I don't know, But the fact that PTY quit making them because there were so many people counterfeiting them and the fact that PTY stopped producing them in late 2010 means there are a lot of fakes on the market. They may not be BAD fakes though - some counterfeits aren't bad. Some people may have only been taking the counterfeits all this time - they stopped back in 2010 because even back then the market was flooded.

All I know is that any Doval being sold today was either made sometime before 10/2010 or is not a true Doval. If anyone is selling them today they either have a huge stash that they found somewhere or they are selling one of the many counterfeits. But all that matters if is they work for you - if they do, and they are consistent, cool.

 
thanks, sciatic.  it's odd, i thought the dovals were "new" because i had never seen them on their website before. i think they just started offering them several months ago. weird. anyway- ladymadonna- good luck on your order! hope it comes tomorrow! 

i need to place another order soon, but i'm seriously contemplating trying a different brand of diaz. even though the dovals work for me- idk if i want to order them knowing they are expired or possibly counterfeit.

 
Has anyone tried the bromazep@m 6mg at ttm?? I ordered a sample but don't know what to expect.

 
Has anyone tried the bromazep@m 6mg at ttm?? I ordered a sample but don't know what to expect.
Hey Chris1, /default_smile.png

I have. They seem a bit weak, but they do the job. I never used Bromazepam by itself. I use them to reinforce the efficacy of a sleeping aid if it has not put me to sleep within one hour on intake. One 6 mg Bromazepam tablet helps it to kick in and I can finally get some much needed shut-eye.

No drowsiness the next day

 
Also got an update and summary or whatever on my order placed last week.

1st package mailed: Aug/18

Received: Still waiting..

2nd package mailed: Aug/19

Received: Today, Aug/25

This is the first time ive received my 2nd package first, instead of the package mailed first. Ive heard this has happened to other people, but its got me so freaking nervous now..but im sure it'll show. Usually im happy when i open that mailbox and see my package from TTM. But then i realized it was the 2nd package mailed and i was so pissed. I even requested that the vials of k3t i ordered to be sent first, cuz i wanted to receive it first, because the last couple orders ive placed that were sent in 2 packages, the 1st package came first in 7 days or less to the west. Now..the 2nd package shows up first! Ironic? I dunno.. Its not really that big a deal, but today was my day off so i was hoping to receive my 1st package sent, well, first. All in all; Should i be worried? Are there others that can share their experience with something like this happening to them?

 
This happens alot through no fault of the vendor. Your first package may have been seized, OR the first one is hung up for some other reason. They were only one day apart.

 
Oh my god i hope it wasnt seized! Gah im freaking the fuck out now. 2 vials in one package, maybe that was the problem making it a little slower... /default_unsure.png

 
Why are you freaking out? They were mailed ONE day apart. Did you see the rest of my post?

 
yeah- you are very lucky to have received one of the packages in 6 days! sometimes even though they are mailed a day apart- they can end up being received several days, even weeks apart. don't freak out yet! /default_ohmy.png

 
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