Klonopin

Most benzo's can be taken sublingually. The effects come on quicker than just swallowing it immediately, but they generally won't last as long. Also, ativan and most roche rivitrol seem to dissolve right when they get wet whereas Alp usually takes longer.

I use them for both.

I have years of experience with subs and EVERY other opioid maintenence technique. My various Sub doctors always gave me K-pins. I mean honestly a Sub doctor would have to be an idiot to deny benzo's to one of their patients. Patients at sub clinics are generally severe opiate addicts that have/had been using for months to decade. Sure they have bupe from the subs to help with cravin and such, but it doesn't do much for anxiety, depression, and the many other disorders brought on by years of opiate use. Someone trying to recover from an opiate addiction will be much more likely to stick to their maintenence program if they take benzo's in non-abuseable doses to cope with all the stress while they begin to develop actual healthy coping habits to replace the medications. I have a lot more to say about this lol, but this is the wrong forum thread for all of that so I will continue my discussion in the appropriate section.
I actually find the opposite to be true: the alpos dissolve faster than the klonos sub ling for me. I do know they make sub ling "bananakins" specifically for panic attacks (as was said) as well as some L0raz. And unless you have a lib doc, or possibly a careless one, they're usually against writing for chronic 0pOld and 'zo therapy simultaneously. I had to have PM's from one doc and knowingly be put on the zos by a Psy Dr. Even then, they were very managed trtmnts for safety reasons.

 
I'm not debating that putting them under your tongue may give relief, I feel better as soon as I get a few Kpins in my hand, and the truly tangible effects seem to come on within 15 minutes of swallowing.  I know this is faster than they are absorbed by the GI tract, but I feel it none the less.  It is not placebo, as bunk or fake Vs don't have that effect.  There may be something to the lipid absorption across mucous membranes in the mouth, I tried looking up some info about lipid profiles of saliva but it was too complicated for me to wholly grasp.  Either way, the mere taste of dissolving benzo makes me feel like relief is on the way, which in it self is relaxing. 

 
They have a longer half life for sure  and take longer to take effect but the effects last much longer. This is my experience.

 
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