Medical benzo question

[meyerlansky]

would you guys consider  20-35mg of diaz weekly for situational anxiety to be problematic?

Just recently i have had a recurrence of panic issues. I am generally cool at home and when

doing the occasional errand. But my other interests are giving me grief. I walk in to my gym

and it starts , i go for a swim the anxiety kicks in , even a social drink is getting worse.

So I have been using the above amount on a weekly basis , usually 10mg at a time.....!

just looking for input and opinions......

cheers.

 

[Roger]

It is kind of hard to say really but I think you are in the safe zone.  You're averaging 5 mgs/day which is low but the most important thing (to avoid dependence)  is to have full skip days between using. 

 

[headbanger]

Let's see. 10 mg of val = 1 mg of zanny or 1 mg of addy van.

So you are taking 2 to 4 pills a week. If you find yourself uping that gradually then you will have dependency issues in my opinion.

Stay with that amount and try to either skip days off or take as many days off in between doses if you can, like a weekend. Vals have a long half life so spreading them out should be no problem.

Myer, I mean it don't go any higher. 1 more a week leads to 2 more a week and so on.

In my opinion(and experience) there is nothing worst that benzo withdraw.

 

[A.C.]

Oh geeze.. I'm never getting out alive huh? "I may be goin t hell in a bucket, but least I'm enjoyin the ride" if that were true, and I enjoyed all this.. I wouldn't be up at 3:15am? 

Take HB'er's advice.. stop while ya can or even maybe try to use a diff kind every other time you need something.. like dizzy one day and a day or 2 later, maybe brom@ or even atee van, lasts as long.. GOOD LUCK!!!! I'll always answer PM's. always, IDC if you're a newbie, a member or a VIP.. ect.. "remember, that we're all in this together" Some DON'T... That's ok, some don't realize what your own ego can do to you? Some are busy.. I just go w/ how I was brought up "Do unto others, as you'd want done for yourself" and so far.. It's kept this ego in check that WAS the size of Texas... T for Texas, T for Tennessee.. 

 

[meyerlansky]

thx folks for all your input./default_wink.png

for the record at the moment i use 10mg on tuesday , thursday and a saturday.

I wholly dislike the idea of taking them for medical reasons.....up until recently I

used benzo's on the odd weekend recreationally and i mean the odd occasion.

I just hate the concept of relying on something that has a potential to be

dangerous.

I would try Kava but its banned in the UK and it needs to be imported from

the US or hawaii???

btw - a 10mg val is 0.5mg of xanax i believe......!

cheers

 

[headbanger]

How dare you challenge a former benzo addict!/default_smile.png

Most charts I've seen list 10 mg of val = 1 mg of zanny.

As for your intake that sounds reasonable. Try stopping for 4 or 5 days just to see how you feel.

 

[idan1120]

Let's see. 10 mg of val = 1 mg of zanny or 1 mg of addy van.

So you are taking 2 to 4 pills a week. If you find yourself uping that gradually then you will have dependency issues in my opinion.

Stay with that amount and try to either skip days off or take as many days off in between doses if you can, like a weekend. Vals have a long half life so spreading them out should be no problem.

Myer, I mean it don't go any higher. 1 more a week leads to 2 more a week and so on.

In my opinion(and experience) there is nothing worst that benzo withdraw.

I agree. I have been on high doses of xanax (6mg/day) for approximately 6 years now. When you start to run out, its the end of the world. Scared to death. Extremely intense feelings of imminent doom. When I start to run out, the hell starts. My wife could touch my leg and I would jump 3 feet. Luckily I don't seize when I drastically lower dosage. A lot of people do. If you can have a normal life without xanax, I urge you too. Being hopelessly addicted isn't the end of the world, but it sucks pretty bad.

 

[headbanger]

I'm sure everyone has their own horror stories about the worst withdraws but alcohol and benzos are supposedly the only two you can die from during withdraw.

 

[meyerlansky]

I have only recently started using benzo's for health reasons .....I am hoping

my condition will improve vastly  it usually does with panic disorder...!

as for benzo equivalency here is the table  from heather ashton the now retired

professor of psychopharmacology-

http://www.benzo.org.uk/bzequiv.htm

everything on the table is compared to a 10 mg diazepam tablet.....

and yes you are spot on headbanger , booze and benzo's when stopped abruptly after heavy addiction

will cause grand mal seizures.....esp alcohol.....the irony is when alcoholics go in for treatment for detoxification tremors (the DT's )

they are put on the  "C -With " scale , which uses diazepam on a sliding scale to eliminate the possibilty of the patient

seizing.

cheers again folks.

 

[Roger]

Please don't think I'm lecturing you  I actually see a lot of myself in you  especially in another post about if you want to feel better now just take a pill.  Here's the thin about having a seizure though. I ran out of pills MANY times without having a seizure.  Thought I was like you "luckily I don't seize".  But then I did.  Had withdrawn due to lack of supply many times and while I thoguth j was losing my mind I didn't have a seizure.  Until I did.  Your brain is no different than anyone else's and if you use long enough in high enough amounts then quit cold turkey you will eventually seize. I get the good outweighs the bad and who know? Had I not been forced to get off of them I would prob be on mega doses today. Just be careful and don't assume bc you haven't had a seizure that you won't have a seizure.  

I agree. I have been on high doses of xanax (6mg/day) for approximately 6 years now. When you start to run out, its the end of the world. Scared to death. Extremely intense feelings of imminent doom. When I start to run out, the hell starts. My wife could touch my leg and I would jump 3 feet. Luckily I don't seize when I drastically lower dosage. A lot of people do. If you can have a normal life without xanax, I urge you too. Being hopelessly addicted isn't the end of the world, but it sucks pretty bad.

 

[Roger]

HB- I don't know how I got your post hooked up with my reply to Dan! Sorry! 

 

[idan1120]

@roger.....how high was your dosage and for how long? 

Also, how did you quit for good? Do you still constantly think about them? Can you enjoy yourself?

Im genuinely curious. Not trying to be condescending. I can't picture getting any joy out of life at all without them and really want to know how it worked for you.

 

[Suzie]

HB- I don't know how I got your post hooked up with my reply to Dan! Sorry! 

​Roger, with this new format when you quote someone who has quoted someone else you get the whole thing in your quote and not just the person you are quoting.