Moneygram Troubles!

They may act like they are gathering or verifying your name etc . Making you think you may still get a refund . Then they say the receiver is fraudulent and then ‘ohsorry ‘ the funds are going to DOJ even though your considered a victim of fraud ....... 

i think the DOJ has a few of my three letter packs , ttmed2u goodies and some Starlite tramps  waiting for me along with 600 pizza does :(  from my recent bakery transfer..

 
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Let’s keep things like this (the specifics) off the forum and only use PM. There are enough issues going on without adding anymore. Thanks! 

 
Agreed. if admin can delete my post please do. Long time sponsor but I cannot for the life of me get BC to work.

 
dsshints said:
Holly,

  My funds were seized by WU and suggested I called the compliance # to answer more questions to get my money back. What is this about? How can they legally seize charitable funds?
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You will not be talking to MG.

 
dsshints said:
Holly,

  My funds were seized by WU and suggested I called the compliance # to answer more questions to get my money back. What is this about? How can they legally seize charitable funds?
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I just realized that my post may have been confusing. I was posting in a rush and I think I crossed some topics unintentionally (donation whoes and seizure of funds). What I originally meant was that I wish I could figure out donation so that I could have ability to PM and shed light on a recent seizure of funds and the compliance #. Sorry for confusion! 

 
bdrc36 said:
Well I had issues logging into money gram and Spoke to a rep.. I am now banned from using their services.. Lucky I got one last fuck you out in time and my vendors receiver already picked it up. 
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I was banned about 6 years ago,

From both,

Same thing I talk to a representative who told me I was banned for life I asked to speak to their manager I try to go all the way to the top and they apologized and said there's just nothing they can do.

I REMEMBER THAT WAS SIX YEARS AGO AND I'M STILL HERE SO I HOPE NOBODY'S Worrying ABOUT THIS.

sometimes you just got to let it go and become invisible again

CIM IS SO MUCH BETTER

 
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I personally would not give them the information they're going to ask you it's going to be extremely personal it's going to feel extremely uncomfortable and at that point you're going to know that you should just hang up the phone do not fall into that as far as I'm concerned but don't take my experience as your own.

this happened to me a long time ago I've been banned for years and years and years from all forms besides crypto

 
@Akup7ich that is bizarre. So what you are saying is the Feds basically steal your money and your package?    I think I will not be using MG or WU

 
@Chrisalias sorry for confusion.

over the years I had my packs stopped at customs .  You get an LL letter etc . Likely the money goes to the same place . 

 
Yeah I agree with @kiro1234. I would say too there isn't real cause for concern. This has went on for years. I cannot confirm with anyone of significance how these funds are allowed to be grabbed without due recourse. 

I keep repeating myself, I know...years ago I would have said "It just doesn't work 'this' way. The feds can't just grab your funds without any due diligence or a protocol of how to allow you to dispute the seizure!" 

I no longer believe that. It can be done--and has been done, I believe about 90%.  I still say there has to be a threshold of how much can be seized without putting any real legal power behind it. This stops as quickly as it starts. 

There is about 10% of my brain that believes this could be a great scam by one or two people within WU/MG who can spot a pattern and then take advantage of it. Maybe? Maybe not? 

NEVER call if your person says it's been picked up in a location different then where you sent it. Stay off THAT list. 

First rule of this life a lot of us lead: Shit is gunna happen. You must be aware of what the risks are and if you are game. 

First rule 2.1 of this life a lot of us lead: We ain't ordering from Amazon. There isn't a satisfaction guarantee or your money back policy. 

On a somewhat related note: The federal anti-money laundering (AML) regulatory body is pretty heavy-handed at times and will pop an MSB (money services business) with a hefty fine if they can show there is a fairly good likelihood of a customer using their MSB to launder money. 

When this happens you will see the MSB going way far right of center. 

Shit, I was banned for being a potential money launderer by MG. For sending $100 a month to my child in another state. I was well below even a cumulative total of $10k--not to mention I never sent her even a one-time transfer of over $100. But these MSBs use a lot of info not just the transaction itself to determine if someone should be shut down. It's a numbers game for them. 

I hope this helps anyone who might have had a burning desire know a little more in detail. 

Find another way no matter. That's my best advice. 

I have taken another position however I use to be the director of MSBs in a large bank. Both of these were my customers. It's been a year since I was promoted so I have lost the "ear to the ground" info. 🤦‍♀️

 
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@Akup7ich that is bizarre. So what you are saying is the Feds basically steal your money and your package?    I think I will not be using MG or WU
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Is this happening everywhere or is this only happening because of immigration issues at the moment? I don't know the answer to that.

But I definitely would not worry many times in the past I have gotten all my money refunded through MoneyGram or Western Union because at the end of the day they are accompanied and they cannot take your money without you signing anything that says it's okay for them to give it all to the fed,

But even if worst case scenario you do lose your money,

It has happened to all of us we've all been burned before probably multiple times you have to chalk it up and I know it's really hard for me to say this when I'm the guy who's been banned for over 5 years from either service....

All I could say is if you can cim you're way better off,

There's literally no paper trail you have any right to send cash to any random address anytime you want

 
Just CIM or crypto,

Bc if you think about it you might as well,

Once you send the money transfer you might as well just CIM,

It's the same thing because it's liquid as soon as they pick it up

 
@kiro1234, either service can give your $ To such ageNciEs at anytime, if they say. Just like those same ppl can take your letters anytime they say. Nothing we can do about it, unfortunately. 

 
Hello members,

I hid a couple posts that I thought were better discussed in private.

Remember that if you have specific questions about payment methods it's a good idea to ask a couple senior members via pm rather than havingthat information posted.

Always remember that any information we post can be read by eyes that may not be here for any other reason than to gather information and we don't want to be overly helpful.

 
An update: I received a mailed notice that my captured funds could be returned to me by calling a phone number provided.

Eventually if I don't dispute it and the funds weren't captured for proven cause the funds will be escheated to my state. 

Yeah. Immagunna wait for escheatment. 😏😁😇

 
I know this is more about transfer with MG & WU but don't use small world. First try with them and it was canceled "closed by compliance" from what they said. No further explanation real vague. Website is a joke.

 
@alixjones2018 hi !

was it WU or MG?  Best as my mail box can tell I have not received a bit from MG .

but I was told verbally mine went to the dead land ...

maybe years from know I will check unclaimed funds and get lucky :)

 
Akup7ich said:
@alixjones2018 hi !

was it WU or MG?  Best as my mail box can tell I have not received a bit from MG .

but I was told verbally mine went to the dead land ...

maybe years from know I will check unclaimed funds and get lucky :)
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Kind of hoping my mailbox doesn’t. That will open a whole other can of worms😕

 
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