hmm Its been a month or so but I had seen rumblings on r3ddit that 2f would be produced in the states somehow, iirc? either that or some big shipment was headed. i cannot remember now
I hadn't heard that theory, but that sounds totally consistent with everything that I know. So presumably it was just somebody in that family who pissed off the wrong Party member. My understanding is that there are ~15-20 families that pretty much run everything, but that top echelon is really unstable, and one of them will get purged/fucked by everyone in the circle periodically.
That was the impression I got from one of my buddies. He works at a 99% legit chemical company, and the tone and lexicon of his answer when I asked about K analogues made me think that. His English is as almost literally as good as mine (he's been studying since he was 5, and he does lots of business with americans) so I'm inclined to trust my gut on such cues with him. (Try that with some of my other friends, and a 50 gallon drum of benzene shows up in Oklahoma or something! It's legit with Chris though.)
I could imagine that there are like 5 metric tonnes of 2F sitting in a port in China, so I'd guess the "big shipment" thing is right. Some precursors to k/2F are listed chemicals, even though K is CIII and 2F is unscheduled, so US production could be difficult.
It's a shame that we have such draconian drug laws and restrictions on precurs0rs. Look at Portugal. They did well to decriminalize everything. We could learn a thing or two from them.
for its anti-depressant properties alone, if i had the means, i would in a heartbeat. truly underappreciated in that regard.. showed me that theres much more than jsut trying to k-hole to another universe... not that theres anything necessarily wrong in that either.
Ain't that the truth. 2F is amazing and deserves more recognition for therapeutic applications. It also aids in PTSD, anxiety, and addiction treatment.
It would be nice to see. Ketamine clinics are already a thing, so it isn't a stretch. Also, you still haven't responded to my DM, dudeski! If I had the funds to throw in on 5 tonnes, I would. No hesitation. I'm a huge fan of psychedelic therapy, and thus ketamine therapies by extension. It has helped me significantly, as well as many others I have both treated and known to be treated by themselves or others.
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xenxra:
@WTF7218 it may as well be that way with how little effort some of the people on here make to find information that's exactly where you would expect it to be.
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ontovzik:
When I had long term shingles, lasting two months. All he could give me was a 10 day supply of dilaudid. He looked at the ground while we were talking about it. I could tell he was ashamed but it was the legislature and the governor that tied his hands. He was very upset that non-medical political people, the media, and the scared public were controlling how he treated his patients. Someday those people will need meds and a hospital bed and they will be gone.
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I had a great doctor, he had the true gift of a healer and he stayed on top of all the science. He straight up told me that for many people opiods work for managing short and long term pain.
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He peed it in the snow in my backyard.
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@xenxra 😆😂. Yes, but only a few brave souls will ever find the number. You must first order a Dirty Shirley from the bartender. Then you must discreetly take the cocktail napkin from under your drink and unfold it. There you will find the map to the location of the phone number, and clues to decipher the code that it is written in.
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he left his phone number scribbled in a stall at the pub three blocks down
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@NYStateofMind I dont really have a history of abusing things, my docotr is just really stingy. I am thinking of switching.
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xenxra:
@Cheesus yeah, use snote
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xenxra:
@NYStateofMind my doctor's have always been pretty open minded if i can actually come in and explain the pharmacological action of the drugs im seeking instead of just telling them why i think i should be prescribed. the only time it didn't work out for me is when i was trying pharmaceuticals for depression ten years ago and suggested they let me try testosterone instead (turns out i was hypogonadal so they made a mistake denying my request at face value)
