Opana G74 (Oxymorphone Er)

Hey @jcarbs08, what you described you received via pm (concave 20/E) is the new, very much tamper-resistant version.  This is also known as the "bad" one, as it is often times reported to "come out", looking the same as it did when going in...if you know what I mean.  Moreover, since the bioavailability of this product is only 5% when taken orally, the inability to actually break down when digested makes this brand very much undesirable.  That said, to answer your question, no, this brand is not similar to the old, octagon ones. However, both the Impax/Global and Activas (which actually are not being pulled from distribution) ARE pretty much the same as the old ones.  Hope that helps. 

 
MaryPill'Poppins said:
Hey @jcarbs08, what you described you received via pm (concave 20/E) is the new, very much tamper-resistant version.  This is also known as the "bad" one, as it is often times reported to "come out", looking the same as it did when going in...if you know what I mean.  Moreover, since the bioavailability of this product is only 5% when taken orally, the inability to actually break down when digested makes this brand very much undesirable.  That said, to answer your question, no, this brand is not similar to the old, octagon ones. However, both the Impax/Global and Activas (which actually are not being pulled from distribution) ARE pretty much the same as the old ones.  Hope that helps. 
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And they the goods ones right? That only the covering has the bad ingredient correct? The generic ones have Ben great once the orange coating had be removed either with a nail file or a pediegg. I'm I correct that is.

 
Could someone please give there thoughts on this. This is some scary shit. Hope this is the best place to post, sorry if not.

M.topix.com/forum/city/liberty-ky/TFQQNPI61GTLFF1PG

 
@newdaze - Interestingly enough, I happened across that exact thread a while back.  I immediately started searching for info confirming or refuting that opinion and although I can't remember exactly what (or where) I found, I do recall concluding it as unfounded.  Honestly, I think it's just a load of bs, meant as a scare tactic- at least I sure as shit hope so.

 
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MaryPill'Poppins said:
If anybody ever has ANY questions about these, please feel free to hit me up.  I'm more than willing to tell you pretty much anything you need or want to know about either of the generic ☯panda brands ~~> Impax/Global = the G's OR Activas = half moons -(which are soon to be pulled from distribution due to a recent litigation defeat in a court case against Endo).  

I can be the DBG's resident ☯panda/☯xym☯rph☯ne expert, if you will...     
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I have some questions re: a 40 lb  panda bear that is orange and marked G74. First, how would the panda compare (strength wise) to a 30 pound rock (a blue K)? Second, could it be broken in half or quarters? Third, what is the best way to use the panda (I've heard something about bioavail and a coating). Apologies if these are dumb questions and thanks in advance. 

 
The Oral bioavailability of OhPanda (OPA) is a woeful 10%.  Amazingly, even with such a low BA, it is still the strongest opiate prescribed outside of a hospital.  What's more, even at a mere 10% oral BA, a 40lb Panda (OPA) taken orally is equivalent to appx 80 mgs of Oxeecodone (OXE) taken orally.   So...

  •         Orally:         40mg OPA  =  80mg OXE  
Intranasally however, the BA is significantly higher at 43% (Wikipedia incorrectly cites the BA as 90%). Interestingly, it's the only opiate with a higher BA intranasally.  (i.e. OXE  has a lower intranasal BA of 70% & while this ROA provides the strongest and most immediate onset for OXE, the half-life is cut in half & its physiological effects drop from ~4 hours to ~1.5-3 hours).  OPA, however, not only increases in BA intranasally but has a faster onset, longer half-life, greater duration, increased euphoria, more efficacious analgesic properties, and greater overall potency!!  For this reason, it s BY FAR the preferred & most effective ROA.    So...

  •         Intranasal:  40mg OPA =  160mg OXE  (or 5.33 30lb rocks)
If however you strongly prefer oral use there are ways to potentiate OPA and increase BA via an oral ROA as well. Because OPA is less soluble with lipids, eating a fatty meal like a big ol' greasy burger w/ fries before an oral dose can boost BA up by 50% or greater. Additionally, cimetidine (e.g., Tramadol) potentiate the binding action of the oxymorphone thus increasing both BA and efficacy of analgesic properties. 

And just for informational purposes: 

  •  Injected:     40mg OPA =  800mg OXE  (but let's not go there folks)
I realize that's way more info than you probably wanted but.... :P  and regarding your last two questions, yes, you can certainly break OPA's in halves/quarters.  I would do so only after having removed the coating by either:
1) Using a nail file, flat head screwdriver, razor blade, etc to scrape off the dry coating. (this is what I did for the first couple months)
2) Wetting the pill in the mouth quickly, and then wipe the coating off till dry with something like a paper towel.  (this is what I currently do)
3) Don't worry about the coating, just crush/grind into a fine powder and it still works fine.  (I do too many to do this, or actually "not" do this) 

My most favorite questions in the world are dumb questions but alas @squid720, your questions are not dumb. 

 
MaryPill'Poppins said:
The Oral bioavailability of OhPanda (OPA) is a woeful 10%.  Amazingly, even with such a low BA, it is still the strongest opiate prescribed outside of a hospital.  What's more, even at a mere 10% oral BA, a 40lb Panda (OPA) taken orally is equivalent to appx 80 mgs of Oxeecodone (OXE) taken orally.   So...

  •         Orally:         40mg OPA  =  80mg OXE  
Intranasally however, the BA is significantly higher at 43% (Wikipedia incorrectly cites the BA as 90%). Interestingly, it's the only opiate with a higher BA intranasally.  (i.e. OXE  has a lower intranasal BA of 70% & while this ROA provides the strongest and most immediate onset for OXE, the half-life is cut in half & its physiological effects drop from ~4 hours to ~1.5-3 hours).  OPA, however, not only increases in BA intranasally but has a faster onset, longer half-life, greater duration, increased euphoria, more efficacious analgesic properties, and greater overall potency!!  For this reason, it s BY FAR the preferred & most effective ROA.    So...

  •         Intranasal:  40mg OPA =  160mg OXE  (or 5.33 30lb rocks)
If however you strongly prefer oral use there are ways to potentiate OPA and increase BA via an oral ROA as well. Because OPA is less soluble with lipids, eating a fatty meal like a big ol' greasy burger w/ fries before an oral dose can boost BA up by 50% or greater. Additionally, cimetidine (e.g., Tramadol) potentiate the binding action of the oxymorphone thus increasing both BA and efficacy of analgesic properties. 

And just for informational purposes: 

  •  Injected:     40mg OPA =  800mg OXE  (but let's not go there folks)
I realize that's way more info than you probably wanted but.... :P  and regarding your last two questions, yes, you can certainly break OPA's in halves/quarters.  I would do so only after having removed the coating by either:
1) Using a nail file, flat head screwdriver, razor blade, etc to scrape off the dry coating. (this is what I did for the first couple months)
2) Wetting the pill in the mouth quickly, and then wipe the coating off till dry with something like a paper towel.  (this is what I currently do)
3) Don't worry about the coating, just crush/grind into a fine powder and it still works fine.  (I do too many to do this, or actually "not" do this) 

My most favorite questions in the world are dumb questions but alas @squid720, your questions are not dumb. 
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I have spent the last few days on google trying to get a straight answer to these exact questions before the lightbulb finally went off and I realized I should be checking this forum!

Thanks so much @MaryPill'Poppins for this information! 

I think next time I'll save myself some time and just check this forum first. ;)

 
The G74 Opanas are generics that dont have the abuse-deterrent qualities, allowing them to be crushed and used in different ROA. If crushed and snorted for example, the bioavaliability is much greater and I would say opana is twice as strong as oxycodone. Opana is VERY strong. I know people who have blacked out and done stuff (like benzos), and people who think they are acting completely normal but stumbling and slurring their words heavily. It is not a drug to mess around with if you are opioid naive.

 
Thanks for the info mary. Pandas are my favorite hands down. With dills somewhere after. I used to use 74s but I think that really shot my tolerance up, so now I get 73s. I still feel like a 73 is a little stronger then a 30 rock. And the last 73 I got just lasted foreverr be careful tho, I had taken a break and then started on a 73 and next thing I know I got the nods driving to work. Woops!

 
The Opaba G74 are great they are a 40mg generic by global Pharma that are the same internals as the original stop sign opanas!! Thus drug has a 10% bioavailability orally and a 40-50% bioavailability nasally. These babies will wreck your tolerance if you binge on them and snorting oc80s will be like eating m&ms. 40mg of orally taken opana is equal to 80mg of oral oxycodone. So snorting the G74 is like 4/5 80s except you get a lot of gelling so really it's prolly like 3 by the time a good amount absorbs nasally and the rest is dripped and absorbed orally. When I do the G74 I'll crush one up and the bust up and equivalent amount of buff to snort with it. Normally I use 2-3 0.5mg Xanax. The extra non gel powder thins the gelling effect and definitely allows you to get more bang for your buck. Doing this you need to be opiate tolerant you need to be able to handle 160mg instant release oxy to rail a full g74 in this manor. I prefer getting the IR 10mg opana that don't gel !!! Those get you super high and have excellent pain control! Can cut they methadone to some level too!!!

 
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