Why do newer stims get such a bad rap

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Mostly all of stims are covered, but not so much the newer ones. I realize here and other places have this answered or debated many, many times. Reddit, I don't trust, here I do.

Anyways, stims like HEP, Hexylone, 4FPD, MF-PVP, MDPEP etc, HAVE to have some form of worth to them. I just don't see the point in synthesizing things that, basically amount to nothing (seems to be the case). It seems it'd be better to simply cut out stims entirely from a vendor's stock. (Eb-canq, lol, from RCBS(according to another vendor's site, ebk =bk-bbdp as shown on the paper from the analysis to identify it), I swear was a fucking mentally-handicapped high school kid's failed lab experiment. It made me furious, the only thing I ever threw away. Why, how, and who the hell  thought it was a good idea. Whoever manufacturers these should make micro-batches, that have a few unbiased "testers" to inform them when they made a mistake. Yes, I see the how that's a dumb statement, like pre-sale testers.

If they DO have "pre-testers" on deck, they don't value them or listen to them. Sure, let's cook up a batch of Butyl-Pentylone, instead of Eutylone. The only material I have ever encountered that, even in PG, is totally insoluble and catches on fire but doesn't vape or smoke, but literally catches fire! It's basically, non-psychotropic, overpriced poison at that point. Someone needs a punch in the throat for being a shitty chemist, in a planet of 8 billion people, fucking hire a better one. Seriously.

Apologies for the huge rant, but it's such am irritating thing to me. My hope was to hear some neutral/positive feedback on the newest stims. I want to take a gamble with mf-pvp. The long period between this, and the chems I mentioned earlier, leads me to believe these were more thoughtful creations. I do find it hard to believe that a-pihp is the last possible success.

 
not as good.

Ex: a-pvp was popular and loved --> banned --> a-php -->banned --> worse (but legal) a-pxp analogues.

Like all companies, producers main concern is profit, so they will sell any legal chem they can regardless of effects

 
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