4ME-Tmp

[Mokachin0]

Hey All, I have some updates regarding the new batch of 4metmp. Preliminary results from the lab I’m affiliated with are surprisingly accurate.

My vendor also stated he already received identical preliminary results and expects a full report by Wednesday on the 4me and other new mags and batches that came in. (I didn’t realize he’d begun lab testing but I’m not surprised since in my 100 or so subscriptions of several dozen chems I’ve never had a single mag test incorrectly (via both full anonymous lab analysis , and my affiliate lab when possible.)

I’m thinking that it is just bad synth of a citric acid version, but obviously the possibility of contaminants/byproducts/adulterants/etf CAN NOT be ruled out yet as not everything is picked up by these preliminary lab tests. All I can say for certain is the sample does at least contain 4metmp. That DOES NOT mean it is definitely safe or free of any other potential adulterants, it only means the sample definitely contains 4metmp.

I will update with the full analysis report both Wednesday when my vendor sends the full analysis and when I receive the one I sent in. I am also happy to send a copy of the actual lab analysis to anyone who request it, as I want to emphasize that I am just a random person typing on the internet, I could be anyone, and these words should not replace any tests you do yourself.

As great as this community is and I know many of us (myself included) have genuinely positive intentions, but there are no guarantees in this game that anyone is who they say they are, or that their words are honest.

So don’t drop your guard and use a comment from someone unknown in place of personal testing of your reading material. If the results aren’t from YOUR personal tests and experiences, they should never be relied on as safe or guaranteed. It is always the responsibility of the reader to take responsibility for their safety by personally testing any reading material!

On a similar note, my main purpose for joining this community is to complete a project I’ve been working on in my lab, which is compiling repeatable home testing using reagents accessible the average reader, of as many novel titles with no currently published results available for comparison testing. The goal being to provide a greater level of harm reduction by equipping the average reader with the tools to conduct first line home testing on a broader range of titles than is currently available. (this obviously does not take the place traditional full lab analysis, and can only prove to moderate degree that a given sample contains something, It cannot determine purity or rule out existence of other adulterants. No different than the standard home tests that you are familiar with.

This is a collaboration with a well known trusted harm reduction nonprofit that the majority of you are familiar with and likely have used before. Once enough consistent data from repeated tests is collected and confirmed, it will be released directly by them as a means for comparison against a readers home testing results (in the same chart format that you’ve probably used if you’ve ever done traditional home testing on the commonly known title's from any of the companies who provide the material to do so).

If anyone is interested in contributing their collected home data on title with no current reference for testing, feel free to pm me for info on how to get involved. Obviously only persons with knowledge of opsec consisting of private servers, pgp , configured routers etc. should consider involvement in that project for obvious personal privacy purposes.

Will be back with an update on Wednesday or sooner! Wishing everyone Safe & happy reading!

 

[mattalva28]

Hey All, I have some updates regarding the new batch of 4metmp. Preliminary results from the lab I’m affiliated with are surprisingly accurate.

My vendor also stated he already received identical preliminary results and expects a full report by Wednesday on the 4me and other new mags and batches that came in. (I didn’t realize he’d begun lab testing but I’m not surprised since in my 100 or so subscriptions of several dozen chems I’ve never had a single mag test incorrectly (via both full anonymous lab analysis , and my affiliate lab when possible.)

I’m thinking that it is just bad synth of a citric acid version, but obviously the possibility of contaminants/byproducts/adulterants/etf CAN NOT be ruled out yet as not everything is picked up by these preliminary lab tests. All I can say for certain is the sample does at least contain 4metmp. That DOES NOT mean it is definitely safe or free of any other potential adulterants, it only means the sample definitely contains 4metmp.

I will update with the full analysis report both Wednesday when my vendor sends the full analysis and when I receive the one I sent in. I am also happy to send a copy of the actual lab analysis to anyone who request it, as I want to emphasize that I am just a random person typing on the internet, I could be anyone, and these words should not replace any tests you do yourself.

As great as this community is and I know many of us (myself included) have genuinely positive intentions, but there are no guarantees in this game that anyone is who they say they are, or that their words are honest.

So don’t drop your guard and use a comment from someone unknown in place of personal testing of your reading material. If the results aren’t from YOUR personal tests and experiences, they should never be relied on as safe or guaranteed. It is always the responsibility of the reader to take responsibility for their safety by personally testing any reading material!

On a similar note, my main purpose for joining this community is to complete a project I’ve been working on in my lab, which is compiling repeatable home testing using reagents accessible the average reader, of as many novel titles with no currently published results available for comparison testing. The goal being to provide a greater level of harm reduction by equipping the average reader with the tools to conduct first line home testing on a broader range of titles than is currently available. (this obviously does not take the place traditional full lab analysis, and can only prove to moderate degree that a given sample contains something, It cannot determine purity or rule out existence of other adulterants. No different than the standard home tests that you are familiar with.

This is a collaboration with a well known trusted harm reduction nonprofit that the majority of you are familiar with and likely have used before. Once enough consistent data from repeated tests is collected and confirmed, it will be released directly by them as a means for comparison against a readers home testing results (in the same chart format that you’ve probably used if you’ve ever done traditional home testing on the commonly known title's from any of the companies who provide the material to do so).

If anyone is interested in contributing their collected home data on title with no current reference for testing, feel free to pm me for info on how to get involved. Obviously only persons with knowledge of opsec consisting of private servers, pgp , configured routers etc. should consider involvement in that project for obvious personal privacy purposes.

Will be back with an update on Wednesday or sooner! Wishing everyone Safe & happy reading!

Upon "home" anecdotal reading, IN as far as the ROA seems to have a better read than other ROAs. I have the same batch that is in question. Takes a lot more for me to take interest in reading that article, rather than IN.

 

[Mokachin0]

Upon "home" anecdotal reading, IN as far as the ROA seems to have a better read than other ROAs. I have the same batch that is in question. Takes a lot more for me to take interest in reading that article, rather than IN.

This was from a us lab I work for , but I agree and stated I’d post results from the full lab I sent samples to once they get in. I stated many times l that this (nothing really) replaces your personal testing. Simply spreading what info I have about a widely ubnkown item with tons of warnings spread throughout. As stated. This is not only not conclusive but should not br used to base your judgement on. My home tests were in a biochemistry lab,?I’m a biochemist at. Not reagent testing,tystcwascacseoarate project I mentioned.. I can’t perform enough testing without risk at work , hence sending it elsewhere.

 

[St00pz]

I have been going through a 3g jar in the past 5 days. I am replacing amphetamines with it and have found it useful, functional, and recreational. On a couple of the days it did lend itself to compulsive redosing more so than 4f because it is more forgiving with less side effects and crash than 4f. I like it better than 4f. However instead of ordering more I got some 4f tabs, precisely because they're compounded into tabs. Since 4metmp has recreational effects i found myself taking some high doses pretty frequently and burning through a gram which is something I wouldn't do on 4f and probably wouldn't do with amphetamines since I hopefully have to make them last a month. They often don't last the whole month which is why I buy the phenidates.

 

[St00pz]

Thank you so much!

I'm 100% getting the same experience with 4metmp - it's friendly at about 20mg IN, very pleasant, but short-lived.

4f - for some reason I lost any effect orally up to 15mg, as high as I dared go. I tried 20mg IN several times in different situations but it is just too anxiety-inducing. All the anxiety made me kind of scattered and even a bit tired, though my heart was beating VERY QUICKLY, even after 90-120 minutes. I'll combine the two in various permutations, and hopefully we can keep comparing notes

I really wish the 4metmp was more active orally - I reliably got a happy but mild effect at 75mg, but after IN it was way more of an effect at 20mg and the duration was similar.

You seem to get better results eating them than I have. I barely eat food, so it's always been on an empty stomach. It's pretty fascinating.

Yeah IN can be very good. I was regularly doing 20-80mg IN but also found 80-100mg oral to be pretty fun and lasts a bit longer. The IN legs are pretty short.

 

[Juju38]

This was from a us lab I work for , but I agree and stated I’d post results from the full lab I sent samples to once they get in. I stated many times l that this (nothing really) replaces your personal testing. Simply spreading what info I have about a widely ubnkown item with tons of warnings spread throughout. As stated. This is not only not conclusive but should not br used to base your judgement on. My home tests were in a biochemistry lab,?I’m a biochemist at. Not reagent testing,tystcwascacseoarate project I mentioned.. I can’t perform enough testing without risk at work , hence sending it elsewhere.

Hey bud did you ever get the complete analysis?

 

[Mokachin0]

Hey bud did you ever get the complete analysis?

Mine has not been posted yet, I can reach out to my vendor to see if his came back, I know it was supposed to be posted this past Wednesday

 

[Jellyfish]

Mine has not been posted yet, I can reach out to my vendor to see if his came back, I know it was supposed to be posted this past Wednesday

Any update on this? I just received some of this yellow batch and am hesitant to use it in my favorite ROA since it doesn't seem to be the 98% purity that it is being sold as.

 

[scarred14]

@Mokachin0 @Jellyfish whats some of the differences between say regular ampf, m3th, 2 eff em aye, and this?

i understand and have researched the pharmacological differences quite a bit, but im talking actual effects. worth it at all as a study aid?

 

[Juju38]

I’m not a fan of this yellow 4me tmp

Less kick, same comedown as 4f mph

 

[dVdV5fjwYy]

Following for the lab results, thanks for testing

Mine has not been posted yet, I can reach out to my vendor to see if his came back, I know it was supposed to be posted this past Wednesday

 

[danielsonh85]

Thanks for making this post! Back 1-2 years ago, I was keen on researching whether or not 4-MethylTMP was a suitable @dder@ll IR replacement. Lo and behold it showed tons of promise up until all sources dried up.

I’m curious if you ever had a chance to sample the previous batches from 1-2 years ago that came as a fine, white, crystalline powder? If so how’d it compare to the current batch that is making the rounds (looks like large, off-yellow crystal chunks)?

I’m not sure if the quality has taken a hit, or if my methods are inconsistent, but I remember it being leagues more effective previously. The current stuff is barely distinguishable from the 4F variant imo.

man I miss my old dextro-amph prescription! It was 1000% the most euphoric thing I've done, lasted long, and compared to Ritalin, no comedown besides tiredness. Phenidates are SO depressing to come down off of. Haven't gotten to try 4metmp, but I didn't like 4f really at all...sorry just hearing d-amph sends me back! Heh

 

[RiftChems]

Our 4-metmp was lab tested by Kykeon analytics and found to have no impurities: Link to lab results

 

[scarred14]

Our 4-metmp was lab tested by Kykeon analytics and found to have no impurities: Link to lab results

seen a lot of review come in thst your products have been weak or underdosed. has that been corrected

 

[RiftChems]

seen a lot of review come in thst your products have been weak or underdosed. has that been corrected

We do not underdose any of our products, our margins are high enough as is with the cost of powder.

We also offer to fully reimburse anyone who sends a tablet to kykeon analytics for testing if it comes back as underdosed for both the cost of testing and the cost of their order.

 

[Propofali]

Our 4-metmp was lab tested by Kykeon analytics and found to have no impurities: Link to lab results

can no longer see the link @RiftChems . is there an updated one? looking to sub

 

[XmrXdefectedX]

I tried the new crystal dose and I’m not complaining. I never tried the original but it’s good for what I paid for it. Not something I would buy again now that I paid for this forum and can find much better options to keep me awake.

 

[XmrXdefectedX]

We do not underdose any of our products, our margins are high enough as is with the cost of powder.

We also offer to fully reimburse anyone who sends a tablet to kykeon analytics for testing if it comes back as underdosed for both the cost of testing and the cost of their order.

The amount of morons on Reddit that don’t understand the concept of tolerance is baffling. I stick up for you a lot even though I have never ordered. I plan to soon but, I don’t know how you deal with some of these people. I have no doubt in my mind that you don’t underdose your products. They’re probably overdosed if anything. You have a great reputation on here, these are the ones that matter.

 

[RiftChems]

can no longer see the link @RiftChems . is there an updated one? looking to sub

You can find it on the kykeon website under their own lab tested links. They ordered it from us independently and it tested pure. Same with the clobromazolam and pyrazolam they ordered from us.

The amount of morons on Reddit that don’t understand the concept of tolerance is baffling. I stick up for you a lot even though I have never ordered. I plan to soon but, I don’t know how you deal with some of these people. I have no doubt in my mind that you don’t underdose your products. They’re probably overdosed if anything. You have a great reputation on here, these are the ones that matter.

Reddit is where people go to complain after they try and get me to reship them free product and I refuse. Its usually the same 5-10 people so it looks like a lot, they are just very persistent. If we get a lot of complaints on one product we of course reship, but one complaint here and there is pretty normal for a business of our size and doesnt indicate an actual problem with our product. Hit me up if you place an order and ill throw in a bunch of samples.