Alex (Formerly Troy-Pharma.com)

That sucks.. im guessing they were 853 as well?  One reason why I am avoding 853 from any vendors.. even from Alex =  Even tho he likely  have good ones.... 

I made it clear before I asked the vendors for hydros status.."No Watsun 853 for me please"

 
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The totally bad ones I got from L actually made me sick. I had wds and horrible effects along with it. On xmas no less. It was aweful. I decided better to just have wds and not take the risk that what I was ingesting was not only fake but down right bad for me. My health and wellness comes first.
 This is A's thread SS. Were you just giving the community an important warning on L? I'm not ragging you, I just wanted to make sure which vendor you were referring to.

 
 This is A's thread SS. Were you just giving the community an important warning on L? I'm not ragging you, I just wanted to make sure which vendor you were referring to.
Ah she's talking to me about the quality.... ignore me please =/   Damn off topics.

 
No I apologize. The warning was on the 853s in general but like you said its important for everyone to make their own choice based on the feedback. To be very clear.Ive actually never received weak or bad meds from alex.

 
That sucks.. im guessing they were 853 as well?  One reason why I am avoding 853 from any vendors.. even from Alex =  Even tho he likely  have good ones.... 

I made it clear before I asked the vendors for hydros status.."No Watsun 853 for me please"
Btw, Alex will hopefully have some additional brands in the next week or two. But I still wouldn't hesitate to get more 853s.

 
No I apologize. The warning was on the 853s in general but like you said its important for everyone to make their own choice based on the feedback. To be very clear.Ive actually never received weak or bad meds from alex.
But you got real shit from L at least once though. Is that right SS?

 
He usually provides tns later in the evening. As someone posted earlier in this thread, you can sign up or register with the major carriers to get updates before he gives you the tn so youre not waiting anxiously all night. If you read back a couple pages youll find the post about it. Very good idea in my opinion.
Thanks silver shadow. I hadn't seen that, I will look into it. Appreciate the help, anything to ease the mind!

 
So far, I just have an increase in blood pressure but just a little. Called my doctor. I did not tell him I got pills from somewhere I just told him of my BP. I understand totally about what everyone is saying regarding Alex and yes, he's a great guy but I KNOW real klonnies from "fake" or "semi- fake"(meaning like a very little of the real ingredients being in them). I mean, the side that is supposed to have the writing is not even barely, barely stamped. Maybe he does not know his supplier is sending this stuff out???

 
Remember that A (and the rest of the letter guys) are just the middlemen. They not only need

to know but want to know if what they are sending out is not "up to par" or downright fakes.

But in the position of customer satisfaction they have same job to judge the credibility of

complaint. A has talked with me about tolerance and peoples expectations. Can you imagine going

up to the counter at Walgreen and saying these feel week. I'm sure it's been done but we are

always going to be suspicious considering the sources and the prices we pay. Off the soap box.

I'm bringing this up in Alex thread because we had a conversation about this just last week.

 
So far, I just have an increase in blood pressure but just a little. Called my doctor. I did not tell him I got pills from somewhere I just told him of my BP. I understand totally about what everyone is saying regarding Alex and yes, he's a great guy but I KNOW real klonnies from "fake" or "semi- fake"(meaning like a very little of the real ingredients being in them). I mean, the side that is supposed to have the writing is not even barely, barely stamped. Maybe he does not know his supplier is sending this stuff out???
I truly do not believe, based on my experience, that he would knowingly or recklessly send out bunk meds. It's bad for business and bad for you. It's a lose/lose. So, if you are comfortable doing so, give him your honest feedback. Pretty much lay out what you've shared with us. And the more you can do so in a polite and constructive manner, the better it is for everyone.

 
I truly do not believe, based on my experience, that he would knowingly or recklessly send out bunk meds. It's bad for business and bad for you. It's a lose/lose. So, if you are comfortable doing so, give him your honest feedback. Pretty much lay out what you've shared with us. And the more you can do so in a polite and constructive manner, the better it is for everyone.
Yes, A really wants to know if there is a real problem. Make no mistake about that.He looks for patterns and the only way to know is if everyone is honest.

 
So far, I just have an increase in blood pressure but just a little. Called my doctor. I did not tell him I got pills from somewhere I just told him of my BP. I understand totally about what everyone is saying regarding Alex and yes, he's a great guy but I KNOW real klonnies from "fake" or "semi- fake"(meaning like a very little of the real ingredients being in them). I mean, the side that is supposed to have the writing is not even barely, barely stamped. Maybe he does not know his supplier is sending this stuff out???
But didn't you say before that they were stronger than normal?  That they knocked you out for so many hours?  I'm confused if you think they are stronger or weaker than norm?  As for the barely being able to see the stamp.  I know sometimes they get good deals on purchasing the huge hospital bottles of a particular med in which case it would make sense that what is stamped on them would rub off some and even make each one a little powdery on the outside.

 
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