DHC & Diaz

[julimond]

Is it dangerous to take DHC and Diazepam together?

Anyone?

 

[PTFC]

At therapeutic doses you should be fine, be careful however julimond.

 

[julimond]

Thanks Lion,

I was talking about therapeutic doses.

 

[Solid Snoop]

Yeah doctors in the uk used to prescribe them both together for sciatica. They still would if it wasn't for that junk gabapentin being developed.

Taking both together can make you a little more drowsy than usual even with therapeutic doses so just be careful of you need to drive etc.

 

[julimond]

Thank you Solid, but I anyway don't drive (any longer).

 

[Smoka90]

Yep, just to add to what the other's have said, you should be okay. Obviously keep doses low.

I've got a big DHC tolerance so take big doses of that, but when I do take di@z, maybe once or twice a week, I take 10-20mg and I'm okay.

 

[julimond]

If in pain I take the 120 and a 60 six hours later together with a Valerie10.
Try to take doses as low as possible but sometimes 60 is not enough.
As I buy the 120s can only break them in half otherwise it would be much more convenient
to have 30s but they're not available in my small world.

 

[Solid Snoop]

I have very easy access to them but don't touch them anymore (both meds)

I can take 400mg of DHC and fully function, all it does is agitate me haha. Nothing to be proud of but no idea why I can handle so much of the stuff so stay away from it.

Diaz does absolutely 0 to me also even at dangerous levels despite me having never ever abusing it. I can take 100mg and not even get drowsy yet a xannie bar will wipe out my anxiety.

 

[julimond]

100mg Valeries or 400mg DHCs would kill ME.

 

[Solid Snoop]

It's crazy. I've been taking trammies for years and can still feel 100mg when I take them on an empty stomach.

My liver is a mystery haha.

 

[julimond]

You still have a liver? Are you sure??

 

 

[PTFC]

Hey solid, you're another candidate for some milk thistle! I'm shilling for all the milk thistle producers out there ☺

 

[Solid Snoop]

I was on treatment for my skin years ago on some new medicine that worked a treat but didn't got to market.

I had and still do have regular checks done and it's ok. They did think I was maybe lacking in an enzyme or too but I'm not. It's such a puzzle.

Good news is the meds I'm on currently work for medical conditions. Bad news is I don't have all the fun people seem to have on PK's and Benzos!

 

[theview]

Jesus 

I no my addiction is out of control now by reading this ..i always have known but at my worst i was taking 1500mg a day ..Maybe more , and then on top of that my vals .Pretty shocking after reading about 400mg etc ..Im prescribed 420mg per day .Hopefully now with taking therapeutic doses it has not mucked my liver up to much as i have a dvla medical soon .. 

 

[Solid Snoop]

Can't believe I wrote the above and now have a blinking benzo dependence. Word of warning. Even if you think it's doing nothing it's changing your brain chemistry to almost irretrievable levels.

Benzos are the devil!

Still love my trams though.

Jesus 

I no my addiction is out of control now by reading this ..i always have known but at my worst i was taking 1500mg a day ..Maybe more , and then on top of that my vals .Pretty shocking after reading about 400mg etc ..Im prescribed 420mg per day .Hopefully now with taking therapeutic doses it has not mucked my liver up to much as i have a dvla medical soon .. 

How much vals were you taking?

At my worst I'm on 1200 of trams, 12mg of xan and 100mg+ of vals. That is on days I almost (just a tiny bit of me) wants to do something very silly. A usual day is 600 mg trams (still dangerous) and 80mg of Diaz. No xan unless I am really low. Intend to taper off trams down to 300 (although I enjoy them I do have chronic pain) and stamp out benzos. Will be a long road.

 

[humboldtguy]

Can't believe I wrote the above and now have a blinking benzo dependence. Word of warning. Even if you think it's doing nothing it's changing your brain chemistry to almost irretrievable levels.

Benzos are the devil!

Still love my trams though.

Even if you think it's not it's always doing something. It's only relevant when the incoherence kicks in to level 10. That's when I take a step back for a few weeks. I've been lucky enough to stick to small does of benz before bed. Once in a while the old after work before dinner dose. 

Never took a tram in my life though. My PC phys has given me v1kod1n and p3rks for years now. But I've learned to take thoes in moderation as I got older. After you run out of those once you learn real quick to never let that happen again.

Much love 

Humboldtguy

 

[theview]

Can't believe I wrote the above and now have a blinking benzo dependence. Word of warning. Even if you think it's doing nothing it's changing your brain chemistry to almost irretrievable levels.

Benzos are the devil!

Still love my trams though.

How much vals were you taking?

At my worst I'm on 1200 of trams, 12mg of xan and 100mg+ of vals. That is on days I almost (just a tiny bit of me) wants to do something very silly. A usual day is 600 mg trams (still dangerous) and 80mg of Diaz. No xan unless I am really low. Intend to taper off trams down to 300 (although I enjoy them I do have chronic pain) and stamp out benzos. Will be a long road.

Never underestimate a benzo .I thought the same , my mate would take 10x10mg and be falling all over the place ..And id be on 50x10mg by this time and totally fine , i never nodded on them .And im not trying to glorify the amounts but benzo tollerence has no limit ..IMO  you could easily keep building it ..I wont mention the most id taken in-case people get the idea that there amounts are safe ..I may have just got lucky ,but what did make me find forums like this was by googling my benzo tolerance

I was shocked at people saying my tolerance has got out of control ive taken 5x10mg and nothing is happening when at the time i was thinking ive had 10x more than that and nothings happening i was in a bad place at the time .But now im on maximum 4x5mg per day .  

Btw allot of people get it in there head that the benzos are the hardest ones to crack i thought this now id disagree ..I cracked xanax addiction with no tapper and just kept cutting the valium down ..I no we need to watch for seizures and fits but it seems to me as long as u had a little in the system it was fine to cut down ..We read allot online about them being hard to crack .Id say the final stages yes but not the mainstream part .Pretty easy    

 

[Conceited]

I think diaz and dhc’ (and any other opi8s or benzos) have a good synergy.  

I think if  you take your v 20mins before the dhc they kind of kick in together, and give you a nice glow inside  Add an alp or 2 makes you nod.

 

[Solid Snoop]

Yeah I've went 3 days between doses when I was dropping both Zannies and vals like candy. Dropped the xans altogether and dropped to one dose of 60 mg of val every 3 nights to sleep. I was fine the other days except sleep so I'm on 60 mg per night for at least a wee and see how it goes. I dropped from around 10-12mg xan and 100mg+ of Diaz to 60mg in one dose and feel fine. 

One issue is my tram intake which lowers seizure threshold so now taking 400mg slow release morning and night. Will drop 100mg off the night time dose when I drop the Diaz dose. I'll need to stay at 300mg though as that makes the pain just about bare able. I'd rather be in pain than seize up.