Etizolam And Other Rc For Anxiety

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I am new to this board and just looking for input from others. Please let me know if I break any rules by this post.

I have always struggled with anxiety/depression/insomnia and have previously been prescribed Xanax 2mg 4 times a day. After beginning this, I noticed that I could not take it as prescribed and am now looking for another alternative after losing my health insurance.

I have ordered etizolam from a vendor after doing some research on RCs. Honestly, I need something to assist with anxiety and hope this is a good alternative. That being said, I can say that I enjoy a benzo buzz every now and again. Has anyone here experimented with etizolam or other similar research chemicals that may be able to shed some light on this for me?

Thank you all in advance.

 
Hi and welcome to the forums.

Whenever I see a first post like this my paranoia sets in that you're LE. I know that's ridiculous. Still paranoid, though. Anyway, enough of that...

You might struggle to find etiz now, it hasn't been banned as such but all the vendors I know have phased it out. The blistered ones you could buy were far better. I had RC ones and I swear they were just 0.5mg per tablet, at best. Important: it's essentially a benzo. Technically a thienodiazepine, but it hits exactly the same receptors and has exactly the same issues with tolerance and withdrawals, but with your x@n*x history, I guess that's not a massive issue, it's just something to be aware of.

I enjoyed it. I get OCD which drives me f*ing mental, waking up to double check doors our shut, or 'oh my god, the tap's dripping'. Etiz was effective at sorting that out, more so than *some* benzos I've tried. I get nasty anxiety and that got rid of that.

There's 4 or 5 benzo RCs I know of, and the only one that's still available worth using is pyrazol*m. It has a relatively fast onset and lasts for a good 8 hours. Its most positive point is that it produces virtually no sedation at all. It just obliterates your anxiety. If you're after something to help you sleep, pyraz won't cut it. There is one called Flubrom@zep*m which can knock you out, but it has a long onset time (2hrs) and has a ridiculously long half life.

I know this might sound promising, but all in all, I'd steer clear of RCs if you can. They're nice occasionally, but there are drawbacks. You can never be sure of the quality (see above for the etiz dosing), how long they'll last or negative health effects. The ones I mentioned were all discovered by the Roche team back in the 60s and 70s, but there are new ones coming out that are completely novel. Avoid the newer ones, they all have terrible reviews anyway. For these reasons I stick to proper pharms now.

Hope this was informative.

 
hmmm i dunno what kind of benzo that is but if its kickass i want it /default_smile.png

 
It is unlikely you will be able to find a US source. Bans on imports have reduced supply to next to nothing. While legal in most states, it has not been approved for medical use in the US. You can find some sources overseas if you are still interested.

 
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Hi and welcome to the forums.

Whenever I see a first post like this my paranoia sets in that you're LE. I know that's ridiculous. Still paranoid, though. Anyway, enough of that...

You might struggle to find etiz now, it hasn't been banned as such but all the vendors I know have phased it out. The blistered ones you could buy were far better. I had RC ones and I swear they were just 0.5mg per tablet, at best. Important: it's essentially a benzo. Technically a thienodiazepine, but it hits exactly the same receptors and has exactly the same issues with tolerance and withdrawals, but with your x@n*x history, I guess that's not a massive issue, it's just something to be aware of.

I enjoyed it. I get OCD which drives me f*ing mental, waking up to double check doors our shut, or 'oh my god, the tap's dripping'. Etiz was effective at sorting that out, more so than *some* benzos I've tried. I get nasty anxiety and that got rid of that.

There's 4 or 5 benzo RCs I know of, and the only one that's still available worth using is pyrazol*m. It has a relatively fast onset and lasts for a good 8 hours. Its most positive point is that it produces virtually no sedation at all. It just obliterates your anxiety. If you're after something to help you sleep, pyraz won't cut it. There is one called Flubrom@zep*m which can knock you out, but it has a long onset time (2hrs) and has a ridiculously long half life.

I know this might sound promising, but all in all, I'd steer clear of RCs if you can. They're nice occasionally, but there are drawbacks. You can never be sure of the quality (see above for the etiz dosing), how long they'll last or negative health effects. The ones I mentioned were all discovered by the Roche team back in the 60s and 70s, but there are new ones coming out that are completely novel. Avoid the newer ones, they all have terrible reviews anyway. For these reasons I stick to proper pharms now.

Hope this was informative.
Few questions as I too am looking for replacements for alps and kpin at least for awhile, very short term.. as I've been on both just way too long.. I like Brom@zap@m, it is the best I've found so far for a "replacement" while I'm still taking 2mg of alps, instead of 5-6, and 2-4 of kpin instead of 6-8(yeah I actually need em for anxiety/panic disorder.. which is why I need 2, I now carry d@zzle for attacks, and am finding help w/ some but always could use some help to get goin in the right direction) I've seen bet@'s work pretty well, any thoughts on that one(Mogs) as well as Brotizal@m(is this a RC?) and ox@z@pm which I've taken but so long ago.. at one point a shrink had me on Kpin 6mg/day, dalm@ne 30- 3/day, Tr@nxene 15 2/day and 30mg restor!l at night.. I lost a half a year smh.. and was maybe 21-22, luckily didn't drink.. I didn't like any of those but still on kpin, the resto's are great for sleep. I do like brom@'s, would love to try Flura.. but so far they help the most at 12mg.. but not much is "the same" as alps.. and after a decade I'm willing to try anything to offset some of the dependence my body has.

Tryin to decipher the acronyms, can't figure LE..  I see you said to try and steer clear.. I'm only looking for some for use here and there.. or max a few/day for a month or so. I've ingested some crazy things.. and not too worried on that front.. thanks for the informative post Smoka, appreciate it!

 
Few questions as I too am looking for replacements for alps and kpin at least for awhile, very short term.. as I've been on both just way too long.. I like Brom@zap@m, it is the best I've found so far for a "replacement" while I'm still taking 2mg of alps, instead of 5-6, and 2-4 of kpin instead of 6-8(yeah I actually need em for anxiety/panic disorder.. which is why I need 2, I now carry d@zzle for attacks, and am finding help w/ some but always could use some help to get goin in the right direction) I've seen bet@'s work pretty well, any thoughts on that one(Mogs) as well as Brotizal@m(is this a RC?) and ox@z@pm which I've taken but so long ago.. at one point a shrink had me on Kpin 6mg/day, dalm@ne 30- 3/day, Tr@nxene 15 2/day and 30mg restor!l at night.. I lost a half a year smh.. and was maybe 21-22, luckily didn't drink.. I didn't like any of those but still on kpin, the resto's are great for sleep. I do like brom@'s, would love to try Flura.. but so far they help the most at 12mg.. but not much is "the same" as alps.. and after a decade I'm willing to try anything to offset some of the dependence my body has.

Tryin to decipher the acronyms, can't figure LE..  I see you said to try and steer clear.. I'm only looking for some for use here and there.. or max a few/day for a month or so. I've ingested some crazy things.. and not too worried on that front.. thanks for the informative post Smoka, appreciate it!
That's okay, no problem. But I don't know that much about this class of substance, I'm more opi@te obsessed.

I can't quite tell what you're after, though. Do you want a true pharm to get hold of your addiction, or an RC to do that? Di@z is the best if you want to get to grips with it, and Dicl@zepam is the best RC for tapering, but it's potent (about 2mg-10mg di@z).

That's about all I know...I only use them twice a week or so, don't want another monkey on my back...take care and be safe, whatever you do.

 
A.C.

LE stands for law enforcement.
That's okay, no problem. But I don't know that much about this class of substance, I'm more opi@te obsessed.

I can't quite tell what you're after, though. Do you want a true pharm to get hold of your addiction, or an RC to do that? Di@z is the best if you want to get to grips with it, and Dicl@zepam is the best RC for tapering, but it's potent (about 2mg-10mg di@z).

That's about all I know...I only use them twice a week or so, don't want another monkey on my back...take care and be safe, whatever you do.
Ok I got plenty of di@z, I wouldn't mind a RC tho, just cuz you have to at least know the seriousness of being on those, 14+yrs of 4-8mg of alps is not gonna be easy to offset. I'm waiting on some but I do wanna try the Flura, only cuz Brom@'s work well for me but can't be had in the US. I'll have enough of those in a week to get me situated, but it's always nice to have an option ya know.. and man I've been on Op!@tes since I was 16.. few yrs close to 1/2 my life.. My pain doc y.day dropped me cuz I'm trying to get as low as I can(I've got plates, screws, and pins holding my neck together.. severe stenosis and discs busting open everywhere.. it's finally hitting my lower back) but he only dropped me 1 tab ea script ha! He is just happy I'm trying and doesn't pop UA's on me.. or I'd get booted. I was honest, told him it didn't matter when, I'll have t#c in mine. I'm TRYING hard to get to a SW state, w/ medical.. as green helps the nerve pain most.. I'm on 'done now, 45/day and 2-3 MS!r 15, down from 3-30's and 3-100 Er's. 

A.C.

LE stands for law enforcement.
Thanks Suzie!!  /default_smile.png  /default_smile.png To me it means Limited Edition.. but I'm a shoe freak.. even tho I walk w/ a limp.. I can "dance like a jellyfish.. rythym is nothing, go w/ the flow I don't stop"! Saw J.J. 4 times last yr, love me some Jack Johnson and Ben Harper!

Thank you both. I really appreciate all and any answers/replies even if you don't know or can't understand me.. I know someday soon you'll be able to & that makes me feel more comfortable.

 
I have 90x 1mg Etizolam pills I just recently got from a Japan IOP, I have tried one but I took Valium that day and it made my speech a little slurry.

Im saving them for a while then when I give V@lium a break I will be trying these alone to see how they work for social anxiety.

I'd like to share the source, does anybody know if we can share Japan IOP's?

Here are a pic of the pills I have:

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I have 90x 1mg Etizolam pills I just recently got from a Japan IOP, I have tried one but I took Valium that day and it made my speech a little slurry.

Im saving them for a while then when I give V@lium a break I will be trying these alone to see how they work for social anxiety.

I'd like to share the source, does anybody know if we can share Japan IOP's?

Here are a pic of the pills I have:

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Did the picture post or is it my IPad? I can't see it.
 
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Did the picture post or is it my IPad? I can't see it.

I think admins removed it because it was copy righted. I will take a picture myself tomorrow and upload it for everyone. Sorry.

 
Hey guys got the same etizolam from japan very good price and pharmacy quality, good for anxiety, etc. Just be careful withthem they sneak up and you might want to pop another too soon

 
Guys we have a new source for etiz that has been vetted (three orders) by one of our VIPs, Roger.

http://www.nippon-pharmacy.jp/index.php

She (yes, Roger is a she) has used them successfully three times. There actually is another thead for Etiz/nootropics so if this one disappears, we have merged it with that one. We literally just got permission from Admin to post this site on our forum.

Etiz is STRONG AS HELL.....it does a big job on the memory.....so BE CAREFUL. I took a couple of them and I lost three days.

 
Guys we have a new source for etiz that has been vetted (three orders) by one of our VIPs, Roger.

http://www.nippon-pharmacy.jp/index.php

She (yes, Roger is a she) has used them successfully three times. There actually is another thead for Etiz/nootropics so if this one disappears, we have merged it with that one. We literally just got permission from Admin to post this site on our forum.

Etiz is STRONG AS HELL.....it does a big job on the memory.....so BE CAREFUL. I took a couple of them and I lost three days.
Cat, so would you say if I took em a few days/week, they'd "offset" the body's dependence on the others.. I hate to use addicted cuz I NEVER abuse the stuff, but alas, dependent or addicted I am.. My Doc's DO get mad when I say addicted, they correct me and say "No, you wouldn't make it thru a month w/ what I gve you if you were "addicted" tho you ARE very dependent which is why I/We never let you go a full 30 days before giving you new orders, you've proved yourself."

I've also read you and "bananakins" just don't mix.. I can't tell I take em.. Thank you for the link and thanks as well Roger, I knew I gave you that 5 star rating for a reason haha! 

 
Cat, so would you say if I took em a few days/week, they'd "offset" the body's dependence on the others.. I hate to use addicted cuz I NEVER abuse the stuff, but alas, dependent or addicted I am.. My Doc's DO get mad when I say addicted, they correct me and say "No, you wouldn't make it thru a month w/ what I gve you if you were "addicted" tho you ARE very dependent which is why I/We never let you go a full 30 days before giving you new orders, you've proved yourself."

I've also read you and "bananakins" just don't mix.. I can't tell I take em.. Thank you for the link and thanks as well Roger, I knew I gave you that 5 star rating for a reason haha!
Lol! Me and most things dont mix! Especially benzos..and etizolam. No self control.

Anyhoo....yeah i really think they will offset. Just be careful and for Gods sake, dont mix them. When taking etiz for the first time.....stay at home and dont drive. For me, a mg (actuallymaybe now that i think back, i may have had 10mg tabs) was like poppin a couple of fresh bars. I used to get them from topnootropics, who i dont think is around anymor.....seems to me i had 10 mg tabs. Listen to Mathew, he has current dosing down I am sure.

 
Lol! Me and most things dont mix! Especially benzos..and etizolam. No self control.

Anyhoo....yeah i really think they will offset. Just be careful and for Gods sake, dont mix them. When taking etiz for the first time.....stay at home and dont drive. For me, a mg (actuallymaybe now that i think back, i may have had 10mg tabs) was like poppin a couple of fresh bars. I used to get them from topnootropics, who i dont think is around anymor.....seems to me i had 10 mg tabs. Listen to Mathew, he has current dosing down I am sure.
VERY strange Cat, Everyone does react different to meds so I cant say for sure, considering this is a RC I couldn't say for sure that you didn't have 10mg Etiz0lam pills in your hands at one stage, I do find it very hard to believe though but deferentially not impossible! 
In Japan Etiz0lam is now being prescribed by doctors instead of Xanax. So sounds to me like Xanax is history there for the most part. Some patients may not respond well to Etiz0lam therefor they stick with Xanax. That's just my guess..
 
Perhaps you got in very early Cat like in the testing stages and got 10mg Etiz0lam pills.. Who knows..
 
1mg Etiz0lam is equivalent to roughly 10mg V@lium so according to benzo charts 0.5mg X@nax one would assume.
 
Wiki says maximum Etiz0lam dosage is 3mg daily.
 
I got no clue as to why Cat had experienced what she did after taking Etiz0lam.. Perhaps they where 10mg! As I've read that Etiz0lam lacks that little 'kick' that you get from V@lium & X@nax which lets you know you've taken something.. I would compare Etiz0lam to Antibiotics in one aspect or form meaning when you take an Antibiotic what happens? Or is happening? The medication is attacking the problem and doing its job yet you don't get a little 'kick,hit,buzz,smile' letting you know that you've taken something that is going to help you feel better. If that even makes any sense to anyone lol
 
So I don't understand why Cat had these reactions. If you do some research on Etiz0lam (Researching recreational usage will provide better/fast results) you will find that Etiz0lam has next to no recreation value as opposed to X@nax or V@alium. This is that 'kick' im talking about after taking a v@lium or something similar..
 
Im on V@lium & X@nax at the moment, I take V@lium daily but when im going to a social event, especially ones with women giving me the chance to chat to one that could lead to..? Then despite me taking 10mg V@lium the same day or not, I will take 1mg X@nax sometimes 2mg over a couple of hours as I find it much easier/ gives me the confidence I need to do so and approach a girl.. Right or wrong, that's what I do.
 
I was on V@lium when I got my Etiz0lam about 4 weeks ago and I did try one straight away, I ended up taking 3mg through out the day for whatever reason & I did not feel a thing nor did I notice any difference in mood, confidence, pro-activity nothing. Obviously im going to need to get off the V@lium, get it all out of my system THEN start taking Etiz0lam daily for a week or so until I can compare the differences, maybe Etiz0lam would take away the need/want to take X@nax when it comes to social situations. I plan on trying this one day.
 
Cat is not wrong when she says not to drive when first trying Etiz0lam, same thing goes for all medication! Im leaning towards Cat got/gets a rare negative reaction to Etiz0lam as opposed to getting her hands on 10mg pills personally.. Though the only way to know for sure is for Cat to try 0.5mg or 1mg of Etiz0lam again.
 
I must suggest though Cat, buying Etiz0lam from nippon-pharmacy would not be a good idea in my opinion. I would seek out a legitimate Japan made branded Etiz0lam like mine as opposed to Indian Generic Etiz0lam.
 
That way you know for sure it is in fact Etiz0lam and nothing more.. Who knows what else is in those Indian Etiz0lam pills. That's just my 2cents that I HIGHLY recommend that if you plan on trying Etiz0lam again please dont buy Indian Generics.
 
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Thanks Matt, I don't get a "buzz/kick" from anything, if lucky a lil pain relief. I take too many, but ruined my brain chemicals growin up.. anyhow I guess it wouldn't work cuz I need that anti-seizure part too, right now Broma is helping alot, and di@z.. they make me lose more energy tho. And I have so little. I gotta take somethin after all the reading I just did whew, my neck's aching.

I am gonna try em I think.. No reason not to, cuz they might work but my body is very dependent.

 
Thanks Matt, I don't get a "buzz/kick" from anything, if lucky a lil pain relief. I take too many, but ruined my brain chemicals growin up.. anyhow I guess it wouldn't work cuz I need that anti-seizure part too, right now Broma is helping alot, and di@z.. they make me lose more energy tho. And I have so little. I gotta take somethin after all the reading I just did whew, my neck's aching.

I am gonna try em I think.. No reason not to, cuz they might work but my body is very dependent.
I dont really get that kick much either, after 3 days of V@lium it goes but I know its still there.

Im the opposite when it comes to V@lium, I couldn't say it gives me energy like C0deine DID (Explain later) But im a very lazy person, I dont like doing things or working or nothing.. When I take V@lium however im VERY proactive, I want to work, I want to do things, I want to get off my ass and do something other than stare at a PC screen or watch TV.

For this reason I think im going to be taking V@lium everyday for the rest of my life. I know that's not good at all! But the pro's outweigh the con's as far as I know.. And from experience I'd be an idiot to not take V@lium (Which I am an idiot lol)

Im a smoker, so in my mind this justifies taking V@lium daily. Im just killing myself slowly for no reason whats so every, Tobacco is killing me! Im turning 28 this year and could very well be dead before I hit the age of 35 due to smoking.. I used to me a long distance runner when I was much younger, like aged 12 around that time of my life, I LOVED it! Working up a swear, competing in 5km runs against hundreds of people that consisted of uphill and downhill along side rocky terrain, not gravel thought I cant recall but yes gravel as well I would assume with road/tarmac, grass and what not..

A big mix of different obstacles to over come, the rocks where do big not many could lift them and all jiggered, pointy, very dangerous in my opinion! Yet I LOVED it, the hardest one I recall I came 132nd out of 300+ people, I was rather proud of that achievement, just ranking on the top half of the board felt great!

These days, I cant even run 200 meters without falling to my knee's, Given that I participated in both short sprinting and long distance running I discovered I was better at long distant and pacing myself yet pacing myself 200 meters now is a struggle! I used to play football (Not Soccer) and was pretty athletic spending my Saturday morning at football training. Now you'd have to pay me to kick a ball back and forth with a mate just for fun.. (V@lium MIGHT change that though)

So yeah I just want to take V@lium daily for the benefits I get from it, im so happy when I take it and actually do some work without it being a drag.. I just need to try and keep my dosage down pat and not climb up to higher dosages, that's the hard part for me and it might be impossible to stick to 10mg V@lium daily without climbing up to 40mg?? I really don't know, Would like to know but in all honesty wouldn't care because I smoke and know dam well I could be dead in 6 months im choosing to live on V@lium and be proactive and do things like advertise my PC business more, I own my own small PC/Laptop repair business but just been lazy, then started taking V@lium again over a month ago now and suddenly im getting more jobs, looking to advertise more and get more work, I was offered a advertisement opportunity at my local football ground a while back to have my own big business signs all around the oval (My family & I are very well known in our area) So having my name on these boards would have created great gossip from locals which would have carried over to visiting teams im sure, yet I passed it up!

If I was taking V@lium at the time im next to positive my signs would be everywhere now.. Im looking at buying some stickers for put on my car and other anyone else's car who's willing to help like family and friends to get the word out there as get me more business. 

This post if probably long enough as it is without going into how C0deine USED to give me energy but does absolutely NOTHING now.. 900mg PURE C0deine is something I dont recommend ANYONE EVER DO! Yet I did and it did/does NOTHING at all. If you would like to know why PM me otherwise it will show up around the boards soon enough I think.

I think you will have better success with real Japanese Etiz0lam like the ones I have if you can seek out a source, Wish I could tell you because although the Japanese website selling Indian Generics MIGHT be just as good or real, theirs also that chance that they maybe not be all their cracked up to be.

I hate being negative but a Japanese IOP selling Indian Meds? I don't like that sound of that one bit. Best of luck! & stay safe! There ARE better sources for Etiz0lam then Indian ones, I might be wrong when I say they might contain a little more than just pure Etiz0lam, your choice on which road you take but I hope you can find the Etiz0lam that I have myself and I believe they are the equivalent to REAL Roche V@lium or Pfizer X@nax bricks.

Wish you well bud!

 
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