Nitrazepam - Not A Potent Sleep Aid?

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I have quite a low benzo tolerance; generally only need whatever is equivalent to 10mg diaz to work.

I have nitrazepam, and although it works, makes me sleepy, it doesn't knock me out. The thing is, zopiclone, that absolutely knocks me out. Nitrazepam just makes me feel slightly drowsy. Also, it takes so long to kick in for me. I take it at about 9pm, and by 11:30-12, I start to feel the benefits. Such a long come up time, and the peak plasma doesn't seem to take that long from what I've read.

Is this just me, or have other people had similar reactions?

Maybe it's because of the half life being quite long, the days between doses are doing less to keep tolerance at bay?

Love to hear other people's experiences.

 
I found it exactly the same as you smoka, no way it knocks me out like a couple of alpz or alp bar does. Zop used to spark me out too, though not had it in years.

 
I took 5mg of nitr@z alomg with 5mg is v@l and it kicked my butt! Downside...awful hangover the next day.

 
Glad to hear it's not just me PTFC... shame, because I really wanted it to work, I should have stuck with the Z drugs. I try and se benzos/z drugs with a shortish half life because I don't want it to build up in my system in my twice a week regime. Lately it's been vals and nitraz twice a week...obviously I won't end up in massive physical dependency, but I was better off using bromaz and zoppy.

With nitraz, I find I could almost get away with taking it in the day time, just mad. But don't get me wrong, it helps me sleep. When I go to bed, I can close my eyes and think 'aaah'. Whereas normally I close my eyes and have to jolt them right open again because I see horrible things.

Never had much of a hangover with them...heh...well, I don't drink anymore, I've gone teetotal because it was a problem. But I'd be drinking straight vodka in the early hours then up for work at 6, felt a bit hazy but not so bad. What gives me the worse after effects, weirdly enough, is promethazine... /default_ohmy.png

I ramble way too much...

 
Tried Arem and one was not enough... went to 1 1/2 and got sleepy, took a long time, but not what I was looking for.  I have suffered from insomnia all my life and the OTC/herbal crap does not work and the benz take me way too long to get going in the day....

 
ive used Nipam 5mg tabs about 750-800x and i'd say they're not very good .. i need at least 6-8 tabs to feel nice /default_wink.png

 
On the 3 or 4 occasions I used a 10mg tab, I did sleep but felt groggy and nauseous in the morning. Not for me, bleugh 

 
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On the 3 or 4 occasions I used a 10mg tab, I did sleep but felt groggy and nauseous in the morning. Not for me, bleugh 
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What was the 10mg tab you took PTFC just curious bro?.

You on your jollies yet mukka?

 
So you guys all agree that Nitrazepam doesn't work well? That is helpful for me because I was going to order some from Jim to try them out but if they are as bad as people are saying here i think i will stick to my usual which is the roche Rivotril Clonz.

 
I've only tried the Indian ones, I can't speak for jims, but they seem to get favourable reviews from what I remember. 

 
So you guys all agree that Nitrazepam doesn't work well? That is helpful for me because I was going to order some from Jim to try them out but if they are as bad as people are saying here i think i will stick to my usual which is the roche Rivotril Clonz.
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I think it does depend on how severe your insomnia is. For me, I can stay awake on it, yeah, but it makes falling asleep so easy. I had some the other night after nights and nights of not sleeping properly, and it was blissful. Now, there's also the quite long half life...it doesn't particularly make me groggy, but it might be something worth noting. Also, peak plasma levels take a little while to appear.

As for more 'knockout' ones, maybe zopiclone? Yeah, from one Indian brand I got the infamous metallic taste, but they are effecient and have a short half life. Never tried zolpidem but that might be worth considering.

 
Smoka90 said:
So you guys all agree that Nitrazepam doesn't work well? That is helpful for me because I was going to order some from Jim to try them out but if they are as bad as people are saying here i think i will stick to my usual which is the roche Rivotril Clonz.
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I think it does depend on how severe your insomnia is. For me, I can stay awake on it, yeah, but it makes falling asleep so easy. I had some the other night after nights and nights of not sleeping properly, and it was blissful. Now, there's also the quite long half life...it doesn't particularly make me groggy, but it might be something worth noting. Also, peak plasma levels take a little while to appear.

As for more 'knockout' ones, maybe zopiclone? Yeah, from one Indian brand I got the infamous metallic taste, but they are effecient and have a short half life. Never tried zolpidem but that might be worth considering.
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Hmm I'm not sure If I'm really looking for a knockout pill, and I've never heard of zopiclone. I don't see that on Jim's list so maybe someone else provides it. But I think I'm going to stick with klonzapins since that is what i've been taking for the longest. I've also used alp before, and I like that too but for some reason it seems so much more expensive than the klonz yet they do about the same for me. I was going to give the Nitraz a shot but seeing this thread I think i'm going to pass on it now. 

 
I'm sure he does one of the z-drugs, they're not true benzos but hit your GABAa receptors. I don't know your exact situation/tolerance/dependence etc (sorry), but if you take large amounts of less sedating benzos (clon@z, brom@z etc) to be sedated, use and tolerance will go up. If I want to sleep, I could take 10mg of Nitr@z or 20mg of Di@z, if that makes sense...

But I hope things work for you, whatever you decide to do. =)

 
Which brand is it Smoka... I hear the ones from Eastern Europe (Nipam)  are pretty potent.   I have some samples but have not used them yet. came with warning  lol 

 
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Which brand is it Smoka... I hear the ones from Eastern Europe (Nipam)  are pretty potent.   I have some samples but have not used them yet. came with warning  lol 
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It's Nitrosun by Sun Pharma (Indian), afraid I have no experience with any other, but I know that Sun Pharma are quite reputable. Most of our meds are probably made in the slums of Mumbai anyway...

 
Which brand is it Smoka... I hear the ones from Eastern Europe (Nipam)  are pretty potent.   I have some samples but have not used them yet. came with warning  lol 
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It's Nitrosun by Sun Pharma (Indian), afraid I have no experience with any other, but I know that Sun Pharma are quite reputable. Most of our meds are probably made in the slums of Mumbai anyway...
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Ok when I try the  Nipam brand I will let you know  :-)  

 
I suppose everyone is different but nitraz works for me and usually the nipam gets good reviews,in fact I've heard a few people say that Nipam are the only ones that people rate?.

But for me Nipon or ro@che from jim do me nicely.

Peace 

Bliss. ...

 
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