PurelyChem

[Heman]

So you saying in order to become a vendor you need to deposit money into an account ran by moderators ? Just trying to understand what you saying

Something simple like that, or what are the other options?

It's really a matter between the site's owner/s and the vendors who aren't and can't be verified so we know they're good to go, or good to pay back members if they bomb out.

The vendors are hiring space here to sell their goods, they pay the site's owner/s for the privilege, but they don't pay an insurance deposit in case they damage the place, so the members take the financial risk and I don't think it has to be that way. I think if scammers can get in here too easy it will kill the place eventually.

I reckon a deposit is a no-brainer to keep the low level scammers out - that would change the vibe here enormously and probably attract more genuine vendors too. What self respecting business wants to sell where there's so many scammers coming and going. It's an idea I propose for some discussion and I think it's workable, or at least worth trying out.

Probably needs a thread of its own. What you reckon?

 

[JimmyDaPinch]

***FYI*** i received my subscription the other day but haven't had time to update the DBG fam, or even read up on his reviews lately to see what's happened.

LONG STORY SHORT I ordered a subscription for 10 bottles of Oxygen and each weighed 80 ( IDK, make up a word). The Author said all of the bottles are blistered in the original packaging. The bottles of Oxygen i received were LOOSE. but i bought test strips that tested for fent and posiible Xyl. i will retest asap cause to double check.

 

[Heman]

***FYI*** i received my subscription the other day but haven't had time to update the DBG fam, or even read up on his reviews lately to see what's happened.

LONG STORY SHORT I ordered a subscription for 10 bottles of Oxygen and each weighed 80 ( IDK, make up a word). The Author said all of the bottles are blistered in the original packaging. The bottles of Oxygen i received were LOOSE. but i bought test strips that tested for fent and posiible Xyl. i will retest asap cause to double check.

Sounds like some good news. Would like to know the test results?

Vendor got in touch to say I'd get a refund soon. I'll post if/when it happens.

The warning above still applies if anyone is thinking of making an order.

 

[j00ciiez]

***FYI*** i received my subscription the other day but haven't had time to update the DBG fam, or even read up on his reviews lately to see what's happened.

LONG STORY SHORT I ordered a subscription for 10 bottles of Oxygen and each weighed 80 ( IDK, make up a word). The Author said all of the bottles are blistered in the original packaging. The bottles of Oxygen i received were LOOSE. but i bought test strips that tested for fent and posiible Xyl. i will retest asap cause to double check.

You're saying it tested positive for fent??

 

[Tonysmith]

Something simple like that, or what are the other options?

It's really a matter between the site's owner/s and the vendors who aren't and can't be verified so we know they're good to go, or good to pay back members if they bomb out.

The vendors are hiring space here to sell their goods, they pay the site's owner/s for the privilege, but they don't pay an insurance deposit in case they damage the place, so the members take the financial risk and I don't think it has to be that way. I think if scammers can get in here too easy it will kill the place eventually.

I reckon a deposit is a no-brainer to keep the low level scammers out - that would change the vibe here enormously and probably attract more genuine vendors too. What self respecting business wants to sell where there's so many scammers coming and going. It's an idea I propose for some discussion and I think it's workable, or at least worth trying out.

Probably needs a thread of its own. What you reckon?

I completely agree with you. Seems like the betting on suggested vendors has been lacking, maybe an insurance deposit could help the problem of these scammers cause I definitely was scammed by HighRC for over 2k. I understand it's hard to fully vet these new vendors and I truly appreciate the admins n moderators cause without them site wouldn't be what it is but yeah I see your perspective and agree. Start the thread dude I'll def tap in n voice my opinion

 

[Heman]

I completely agree with you. Seems like the betting on suggested vendors has been lacking, maybe an insurance deposit could help the problem of these scammers cause I definitely was scammed by HighRC for over 2k. I understand it's hard to fully vet these new vendors and I truly appreciate the admins n moderators cause without them site wouldn't be what it is but yeah I see your perspective and agree. Start the thread dude I'll def tap in n voice my opinion

Here you go - https://drugbuyersguide.info/threads/tired-of-the-scammers-tired-of-being-scammed.13346/

*Anybody. Pop over and have a look, post your thoughts. Let's see if it gets any traction. @Admin are already looking into it.

 

[AlHoffman69]

Here you go - https://drugbuyersguide.info/threads/tired-of-the-scammers-tired-of-being-scammed.13346/

*Anybody. Pop over and have a look, post your thoughts. Let's see if it gets any traction. @Admin are already looking into it.

Thanks for the update fellas much needed going there now hopefully changes coming

 

[Heman]

@Admin Surely this one belongs in the Blacklist now?

Happy to go through it and report any post with his contact details for you to delete?

 

[goretekz]

i am waiting on product or refund as well. as of a few days ago they said gve btc addy and 1 week to see whats up with tracking and i will get a refund......

 

[lysergicgerm]

Yeah this dude is clearly running a scam.

I hate that I gave any sort of positive review for him.. But it was just for a sample, which I did in fact receive... And I always follow through with a review when given a sample. And I made it clear in my review that's what it was.

 

[Heman]

Yeah this dude is clearly running a scam.

I hate that I gave any sort of positive review for him.. But it was just for a sample, which I did in fact receive... And I always follow through with a review when given a sample. And I made it clear in my review that's what it was.

No blame mate, but that's the problem with verifying anyone off samples. Anybody could buy some and send for reviews and it gives the appearance they have the goods.

In this case it looks like we've all been had. Again. (my own was admittedly only a test order, but I'm not likely to make another any time soon, best to go with the tried and true, enough with the unverified (with samples) that turn out to be scammers with no real goods to deliver)

 

[Heman]

i am waiting on product or refund as well. as of a few days ago they said gve btc addy and 1 week to see whats up with tracking and i will get a refund......

He's said the same to me for weeks now. The latest is his new wallet is on hold and then he'll send. Looks to me he's just playing for time to milk this thread before it gets blacklisted, and I wonder why it hasn't been.

Of course, if I do get a refund I'll let you know. And pigs will fly. Prove me wrong @purelychem

@Admin I'm happy to go through this thread and report any post with his contact details for you to delete? And what's the cut-off point a dud vendor gets blacklisted? Still waiting to see if he refunds me and others?

Hard to believe he doesn't know enough about crypto by now to pay his debts. Business 101.

 

[Admin]

Moved to the blacklist and banned.
Too many members waiting on mags and refunds.

We do give ample time before blacklisting vendors to give them the chance to make things right.
Once banned the chances of a refund are very slim.
I do believe there is nothing left for him to milk here, his contact info on the first post has already been deleted over a week ago. And if you read the latest pages of this thread it speaks for itself, I can not stress enough how important it is to read the last pages of a vendor's thread to see if there are no issues before ordering a book.

 

[Heman]

Moved to the blacklist and banned.
Too many members waiting on mags and refunds.

We do give ample time before blacklisting vendors to give them the chance to make things right.
Once banned the chances of a refund are very slim.

That makes good sense, is why we (because it wasn't just me) didn't call for banning at first, to leave space for refunds to happen. Trouble is it also effectively leaves space for him to scam some more, and he's made the same offer of a refund to me 3 or 4 times now - and others, 'in a week' he says.

The latest was just last night, right after I posted he should be blacklisted now and you and I msg'd about the security deposit thing - What I recently started a thread on. If this guy had paid a security deposit he probably wouldn't have gotten away with so much for so long - spilt milk now, I know, but at least some of it could have been prevented.

I do believe there is nothing left for him to milk here, his contact info on the first post has already been deleted over a week ago. And if you read the latest pages of this thread it speaks for itself, I can not stress enough how important it is to read the last pages of a vendor's thread to see if there are no issues before ordering a book.

If he's not milking the thread why's he still saying 'a week' and all will be well, when nobody who's been paying attention believes a word of it, if only for the chance of the incidental and unwary passerby making an order. I'd like to believe he means well with his offers of refunds but that's too close to what you'd expect from a scammer - preying on hope, and especially given the other factors detailed by me and other members in this thread his offers of refund 'in a week' have been beyond incredible for a while now.

So it begs the question, why is he still making (at least up to this point he's been banned) the offer of a refund if it's not going to happen and if there's no upside to it for him. I'd like to understand, what's your understanding? Do you think he kids himself he'll actually do it? Who knows, right.

You know your business better than I do, but I have often searched something here and landed in the middle of a thread where vendors contact details are very often repeatedly posted and the unwary could easily act on them - as they do. But your house, your call. I'd wipe his contact details out.

Anyway, on the bright side, I hope your efforts re the security deposit thing are fruitful.

 

[rreefg]

But by itself it doesn't mean much, does it, and delivered in such an untimely manner. After the game is up and the money is gone.

Only after the fact of orders not arriving and refunds not made - the money is gone - is the scammers game up. That something he does or doesn't do is similar to a previous scammer is hardly a case on its own to shut a vendor down, though would be useful to know earlier on.

Which is why @Admin , I suggest new unverified or unverifiable vendors deposit a security sum against losses members might incur verifying them by making actual orders, if the vendor fucks up. That way we could bypass the samples stage and go straight to actual orders, if members money was guaranteed by the vendor, held in escrow until ... why not? With a guarantee we (members) wouldn't have the brake on movement the potential loss of money is, we'd get stuck into business quicker, real vendors would make more money quicker, win win win.

The way it is now seems unnecessarily biased in favour of the vendor with the members taking all the risk of financial loss. I wonder what others think about this idea of a vendor's security deposit?
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It seems @purelychem has done a runner. Is it time to shut this guys thread down? He still hasn't been back since last Tuesday, and no comms, after he said he'd refund me.

What say you?

Last reply. Did you ever get refunded?

 

[rreefg]

This account was made 19/3/26, posted the above 20/3 and hasn't been seen since.

Presenting them as an indicator of orders delivered is not credible.

The others presented as examples of orders dropped are actually of samples, just 3. Samples are not orders.

In fact mine is the only actual order I can find and that's not going too well. Though there's still time.

And as the OP has chosen to ignore my email and to communicate with me in this thread then here I'll be.

Super super late reply here. Yes I ordered a sample from this guy, it was delivered, no problem. But then my friend ordered a nonsample and was scammed. That's life I guess.

 

[Heman]

Last reply. Did you ever get refunded?

No, stringing you along is part of the scam.