@Vll Thanks for your input. I don't take benzos strictly for "euphoria". I have continual daily panic attacks and Borderline Personality Disorder. I can also go a a day or two without taking more than a couple.
I too have 12 years of experience with benzos and numerous drugs, prescribed medications etc. Personally, I think a good psychotherapist can help greatly. Of course, it doesn't suit everyone, but an old friend of mine had a huge amount of baggage, and it helped her massively.
I have tapered several times and would never go too far down the benzo bar road. I was just curious as to why this particular drug is so popular, as I don't find it enjoyable myself. I didn't mean "Woo! Let's all stuff Xanax down our throats."
I'm planning a taper soon, as I have uni to sort out.
EN x
Ah, I was under the impression you were new to the substances. My apologies for this huge misunderstanding, no disrespect intended.
With that said it sounds like your body has a very high tolerance to the medication so to reach the euphoric state you'd most likely as you've said taper off to a lower amount and remain at a low dosage for awhile and take a stronger version of the benzo class to achieve the euphoric state. I can't say Xan will do it for you but Val and KP will. As long as you're not on a daily dose of KP or Val you should be able to obtain the euphoric feeling you've mentioned due to the specific brain receptors that are effected by the medication. If you have a tolerance to it your brain will maintain those particular receptors and you won't feel a thing even with larger doses so I'd highly advise not going overboard with the dosages here.
Then again, there's some people that have a zero tolerance to this class of medication yet they cannot reach that euphoric state of mind, it just makes them drowsy no matter what the dosage is which is expected. I'd assume based on assumption you'd need to take the medication for a certain amount of time to start feeling that euphoric feeling so the receptors in your brain will start to reform - it's not an instant process, it takes time.
I wasn't calling you out or anything, generally users who create such threads have the intention of abusing it but after seeing your reply it makes more sense. From what I've read you're trying to have the effects of the medication to prevent panic attacks and feel euphoric at the same time to maintain content or happy while you're calm. That's understandable and not really abusing the meds at all for the most part.
I fully understand that your studies are very stressful and I'd say keep taking your meds until you graduate and consult with a doctor to taper you off the meds. If you'd like to taper by yourself you have to be extremely careful. There's many method out there, some involving using benzos as substitutes while you're tapered off let's say Xan for instance and slowly lowering your dose of the tapering meds. There's bound to be a list of decent benzos that are good for tapering, will have to find it seeing I'm looking to taper off myself after all these years.
Just know I care about this community and everyone in it, I just want you to be safe. That's all, nothing more and I don't ask for anything in return besides actually being safe and informing yourself about what you're taking and what it can do to your body. Seeing you've been on them as long as I have there's some somewhat semi-perm effects...if not 100% perm effects that will stick with you forever. That's one thing you need to look into before tapering, what you should expect and hope for the best. It's similar to being addicted to nicotine (cigarettes, etc) once you are addicted, even if you quit you will always crave them. Read some stories about this and it does ease up over time.
Now if you do have an anxiety disorder don't fully taper yourself off fully, just to a lower, safer dose with some emergency fast acting benz as backups like Xan, take when needed. That's something that can be discussed with your doctor or psychiatrist. The chances of such a thing happening are very high for you compared to somebody who hasn't been on this class of medication. That way your body won't be fully dependent on the medications to fully function.
I can't say it's easy dealing with lower doses, but if you feel that's right for you then I'll be by your side along the way. It all depends on how you want to approach this, not how others want you to. It's your body, you own it, nobody else does. That means you make the rules for your own body, however make sure no rules that you do make will put you in danger like going CT. That's the last thing you want and most likely already know what would happen if you did go CT.
Anywho, if you have any specific questions feel free to ask. I can sit here and write a book about this but I have a feeling you'd like answers to very specific questions. So, from here on out in this particular thread if you have specific questions I'll answer them with the best of my ability.
Best wishes,
-VII
. Never would have started to run marathons (and quit booze) if my wife and i didnt adopt him years ago.
