Kratom Discussion

[Guest]

Yeah, the reds have a nice smell......i wish the taste was as nice.  Honestly though, i can toss n wash and i dont mind.  It is not as bad as kava kava that is for sure!   Lol!

 

[TealGreen]

Teal!  Why does it feel like i havent talked to you in forever!  Ohhhh could yu pm me the name of the fb group?  Xoxo

oooh also, hve you tried making the tea yet?

I don't know how I missed this but I'm guessing my stubbornness with change has to do with it! I know I sound like a broken record player but I want tapatalk back! It took me forever to get this quoted right. Anyway, as far as the tincture goes, I have my first order coming tomorrow so I'll let you know how it is. The Facebook page is called kratom users (current and new) I think. I'll check and get back to you on that. I ordered one of his tinctures and another product that is a potentiator. Fingers crossed!

I've made the tea quite a few times. It's hit and miss and my lack of patience at waiting 40 mins doesn't help. I'm really hoping the tincture works for me cause that will be a lot less ingestion of the stuff!

 

[Guest]

Awesome!  I cant wait to hear what you think!  I would like to order some....i will be able to soon!  I got a kava tincture which is amazing!  Ebay.

i talked to Admin about tapatalk, and he canot install it for a few weeks yet.  All the bugs need to be worKed out first.  There are also many features that he still wants to add.  Example: newbs limited to how many daily posts.......and more stuff like that.  So sorry it i such a process Teal, i miss seeing both you and Pokey all of the time!  Xoxoxoxo

 

[GeeBee]

Yeah, the reds have a nice smell......i wish the taste was as nice.  Honestly though, i can toss n wash and i dont mind.  It is not as bad as kava kava that is for sure!   Lol!

Hey CatintheHat! This is in response to a post in the approved Kratom Sellers list, but I wanted to keep it in discussions to not muddy up that other thread.

You said that the greens can be too stimulating for you? My problem was, at only 4.5 grams green bali in tea, I suddenly became very nauseas and dizzy at 1:15 into it. That passed quickly but I was pretty anxious at the moment, and afterwards I was just so weak and out of it I just laid down where I was and floated in/out of sleep and daydreaming kind of thing for awhile. I assume that it has different effects for you? The white strain had the most energizing effects in my case.

Now 4.5 grams could be a lot for me, as 2.5 of both the red and the white I tried was quite nice and I could MAYBE do 3.5 g of each if I keep my tol down. I understand that low doses are more stimulating and high doses are more sedating. Is that what you've found to be the case?

 

[Guest]

Oohhhhh it sounds like you just flat out had too much!  I hate that feeling.....like a nod-y sickness.  

Yeah, i guess it is more stimulating at a lower dose.....just a little tho....i find all doses stimulating really.....similar to the energy boost of a low dose opiate,

 

[GeeBee]

Thanks for the input, I'll have to be more careful.

I'm actually finding them to be sedating mostly later on, except for the white. Similar to a low-dose opiate, lol. Different strokes I guess.

 

[Guest]

Similar to the "energy boost" of a low dose opiate......not "similar to a low dose opiate".     I wish...hehe

 

[GeeBee]

Similar to the "energy boost" of a low dose opiate......not "similar to a low dose opiate".     I wish...hehe

Sorry, I could have worded that better. I meant that the I get sedative effects from low-dose opiates as well as from kratom, as apposed to you getting the energy boost /default_smile.png

 

[Way2old4this]

I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 

Did you try the tincture and if so, what did you think? I've used Specious Specialist tincture extensively, to the point plain leaf wasn't effective. It is very very good and very expensive.  Just be careful. 

Roger is right, be very careful. I've read quite a bit about tolerances and habituation properties going through the roof very quickly with the tinctures and the extracts. I know they are fun but only every now and then for me.

 

[jimrad]

Hey guys, 

I have read through almost every thread on this topic.  However, I'm still unable to find a vendor that will ship to any state.  The last two orders that I've placed were canceled because they said kratom is not legal in my state.  Does anyone happen to know a reliable vendor that  will ships to ANY state!?, Thanks!

-Jim

 

[GeeBee]

Hey guys, 

I have read through almost every thread on this topic.  However, I'm still unable to find a vendor that will ship to any state.  The last two orders that I've placed were canceled because they said kratom is not legal in my state.  Does anyone happen to know a reliable vendor that  will ships to ANY state!?, Thanks!

-Jim

I could be wrong, but I highly doubt any reputable vendor will ship kratom to a state where it's illegal. I think there are 4 or 5 states where it is such, sadly sounds like you're one of them...

 

[jimrad]

Hey guys, 

I have read through almost every thread on this topic.  However, I'm still unable to find a vendor that will ship to any state.  The last two orders that I've placed were canceled because they said kratom is not legal in my state.  Does anyone happen to know a reliable vendor that  will ships to ANY state!?, Thanks!

-Jim

I could be wrong, but I highly doubt any reputable vendor will ship kratom to a state where it's illegal. I think there are 4 or 5 states where it is such, sadly sounds like you're one of them...

They have got to be out there though and this would be the place to find them!  It's impossible that I'm able to order almost any other drug in the world from this site, but not kratom...that just can't be.  Maybe a reseller?

Thanks,

-Jim

 

[Guest]

If you mean remailer than yes, that sounds like your answer.  

If you ever run across one that ships to tennessee, indiana...bla bla bla.......let us know.  We certainly have not been able to find one.

 

[sadminion]

there are some that say if its illegal in your state then buy at your own rrisk, or do they not say that anymore?

The first one i ordered from said that in there ads on there site..

if you wish you can pm me and ill let you know the site, its here on the site already, but i dont want to get anyone in trouble..

 

[GeeBee]

Anyone ever try a little s@ma with their K and if so, how was it? I'm thinking it would work as a pontentiator as with other opes but was wondering how the interaction was b4 I tried it. Or will I have to be the guinea pig? /default_tongue.png

 

[Guest]

Mmmmmmmmm that sounds NICE

 

[TealGreen]

I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 

Did you try the tincture and if so, what did you think? I've used Specious Specialist tincture extensively, to the point plain leaf wasn't effective. It is very very good and very expensive.  Just be careful. 

Roger is right, be very careful. I've read quite a bit about tolerances and habituation properties going through the roof very quickly with the tinctures and the extracts. I know they are fun but only every now and then for me.

You are absolutely right. My tolerance is through the roof. I went through that whole bottle in a week and when I stopped using it, I felt like crap way faster than when using just the plain leaf powder. The stuff works excellent but I just can't take it responsibly enough.

 

[bigs210]

I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 

Did you try the tincture and if so, what did you think? I've used Specious Specialist tincture extensively, to the point plain leaf wasn't effective. It is very very good and very expensive.  Just be careful. 

Roger is right, be very careful. I've read quite a bit about tolerances and habituation properties going through the roof very quickly with the tinctures and the extracts. I know they are fun but only every now and then for me.

You are absolutely right. My tolerance is through the roof. I went through that whole bottle in a week and when I stopped using it, I felt like crap way faster than when using just the plain leaf powder. The stuff works excellent but I just can't take it responsibly enough.

Lol that would be me too no doubt

 

[Guest]

I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 

Did you try the tincture and if so, what did you think? I've used Specious Specialist tincture extensively, to the point plain leaf wasn't effective. It is very very good and very expensive.  Just be careful. 

Roger is right, be very careful. I've read quite a bit about tolerances and habituation properties going through the roof very quickly with the tinctures and the extracts. I know they are fun but only every now and then for me.

You are absolutely right. My tolerance is through the roof. I went through that whole bottle in a week and when I stopped using it, I felt like crap way faster than when using just the plain leaf powder. The stuff works excellent but I just can't take it responsibly enough.

awwww i am sorry sweetie!  I sure miss you and Poke.  Hope we get tapa soon!

 

[GeeBee]

Mmmmmmmmm that sounds NICE

Argh, I forgot to try the s@ma with it! We lost power here in CT for a few hours and I figured perfect time for a tea party!

Anyway,I have a tip I think might be helpful to some. I did the toss 'n wash method for the first time tonight as opposed to tea (much better and easier ime so far). I used the same amount and it's onset was as fast as the tea, lasted longer, and was at least as strong (for me). My secret?

I took an enzyme capsule at the same time! What this does is break down the cellulose/fiber wall of the K, liberating the alkaloids for assimilation. This should facilitate faster and more thorough absorption of the active properties, all the while reducing or eliminating nausea. Some nausea is likely the direct result of the effects of the active components in K, but any caused by digestive distress from the large amount of fiber consumption should be alleviated. I personally had no nausea, but can't say for sure that is why.

Now, you could probably take one or two 10 minutes or so b4 the K to give the capsule some time to disintegrate. Or as an alternative, mix or just drop the powder into the K b4 consumption. All should be equally effective. I also had a spoon full or so of coconut butter with it as I think I read some of the alkaloids are fat soluble, but not sure on that one.

All just a theory of course, but a pretty educated one considering nutrition and biology are kind of my thing /default_smile.png. Maybe it won't work for others, but it seems to have huge potential for me at least! If anyone tries it I'd love to hear how it works for you, and pm me if you want to know exactly what enzyme supp I use. It's most important that it contains some cellulase and/or other fiber digesting enzymes in it.