Kratom Discussion

HEY KIT CAT, how the finals? /default_smile.png..hehe i been dying to say that since we met on here lol /default_smile.png

I have entire body issues....not sure if my tolerance is high but right off the bat because how much pain im in, i had to  be highered on my meds because they didnt work,,,,,so im guessing its still the same way.,.

i took that teaspoon u told me to take, every two-three houses....i dont have anything to meausre in grams, how much is that?

btw people talk that it stuffs them up....didnt do that at all LOL..

 
Way2old4this said:
jimrad said:
Sorry, this is a new substance to me. For opiate withdrawal, is Kratom similar to subox0ne?  Does one work better than the other? Or is this substance more along the lines of shr00ms? If someone could please let me know, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Jim
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It's not like shrooms at all but it is not near as strong as subox. For myself I used it along with some benzos to taper from p0ppy p0ds but still wasn't any picnic. It will only help to a certain level, but won't do much coming off a long and strong op habit. That's just mho.
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​@way2old4this--Thanks for actually addressing my question.  It still is tough to get a full understanding of the substance, I will just have to try it.  Do you know if it can be taken with subox0ne?

Thanks!

Jim

 
Jimrad, I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. Kratom is sort of an odd plant - it is not an opiate but it works because it attaches to the mu and delta opioid receptors. Which is why long term daily use can make ones opiate tolerance very high. Like I don't even feel hydro but I can really enjoy p0ppy p0ds. I need super high powered ops to get benefits of them. Strange right?

I'm afraid someone else will have to chirp in on whether it will work with sub. I don't see why not, but I don't have a definitive answer.

W2o4t

 
You definitely have to find a good supplier and a strain you prefer.  It works miracles.

 
Advice anyone, I just received Kratom Tincture and I don't have a clue of how much to take. I am opiate tolerant kinda of. Hard to explain have used off and on for years,but the last four years mostly off. My tolerance has never gone back to where it was years ago. 

 
That is SO hard to say.  How strong is the tincture?  Even if you tell me, i probably could not confidently advise you.  Start SLOW or you will throw up.  Take your time does it have a dropper?

sad, a slightly rounded spoon is roughly two grams.  

 
Cat, took your advice and started with about 1ML and an hour later another 1ML the effect was perfect. I am about 31/2 hours in and thinking about taking another 1ML. This full spectrum (Maeng Da) seems to be working really well for me. The neck pain is gone amazing.

 
I just took 4 of the red caps. Thanks Cat this is very nice I think I might up my caps. Iam a lso a big 6foot6 345lbs.. 

 
Does anyone wanna recommend a blend? Or maybe something for someone who hasn't tried this yet?

 
MsP,

I assume you are looking for pain control? I would start with Red Vein Borneo. A lot of people mix strains but I find I don't get as much out of it if I do.  Any red strain is probably a good start. Bali is also okay but from what I understand, the Bali of today is not what it used to be 5-6 yrs ago. I hope this helped answer your question. 

 
Way2old4this said:
jimrad said:
Sorry, this is a new substance to me. For opiate withdrawal, is Kratom similar to subox0ne?  Does one work better than the other? Or is this substance more along the lines of shr00ms? If someone could please let me know, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Jim
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It's not like shrooms at all but it is not near as strong as subox. For myself I used it along with some benzos to taper from p0ppy p0ds but still wasn't any picnic. It will only help to a certain level, but won't do much coming off a long and strong op habit. That's just mho.
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​Jim,

Kratom is not really like subs.  It will help you get off (and stay off) subs if that is your goal.  Taking together is a bad idea. If you want to substitute kratom for subs I recommend tapering as low as you can on the subs before making the jump.  You will still have a few crappy days but the kratom WILL help.  You will just have to give it some time.  There are many many success stories of individuals wanting to get off the sub train and have done so with kratom.  I wont give the long version here but if are on a high dose now, you might consider an extract/FST to make the initial jump. Those are much stronger (and addictive) than Plain Leaf kratom and not meant to use on a regular basis.  Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Oh and nothing like shrooms....actually I have not used shrooms but no one I know has ever made a comparison. Good luck!

 
MsPekoe said:
Cat, took your advice and started with about 1ML and an hour later another 1ML the effect was perfect. I am about 31/2 hours in and thinking about taking another 1ML. This full spectrum (Maeng Da) seems to be working really well for me. The neck pain is gone amazing.
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That is WONDERFUL Ms. pekoe!  Yay!  Yay!  Now, where did you get your tincture?  Please share!  

 
I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 

 
Teal!  Why does it feel like i havent talked to you in forever!  Ohhhh could yu pm me the name of the fb group?  Xoxo

oooh also, hve you tried making the tea yet?

 
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TealGreen said:
I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 
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I wonder if it's the same one I'm on does his name start with a j

 
CatintheHat said:
MsPekoe said:
Cat, took your advice and started with about 1ML and an hour later another 1ML the effect was perfect. I am about 31/2 hours in and thinking about taking another 1ML. This full spectrum (Maeng Da) seems to be working really well for me. The neck pain is gone amazing.
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That is WONDERFUL Ms. pekoe!  Yay!  Yay!  Now, where did you get your tincture?  Please share!  
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 Cat, I got the tincture from Zerbals, I cannot believe how great the stuff is for pain. I was a gardening whirl wind last weekend.

 
So I decided that I have to see what this is all about.  I just placed a small order.  I will be sure to update and give feedback upon receiving.  Hope everyone is having a great week!

-Jim

 
bigs210 said:
TealGreen said:
I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 
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I wonder if it's the same one I'm on does his name start with a j
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Did you try the tincture and if so, what did you think? I've used Specious Specialist tincture extensively, to the point plain leaf wasn't effective. It is very very good and very expensive.  Just be careful. 

 
Roger said:
bigs210 said:
TealGreen said:
I'm thinking about trying a tincture. I'm just not getting much effect lately. I'm part of a facebook group where everyone is raving about a certain guy who just started selling it. I'm still on the fence so I'm gonna keep watching reviews for a little longer. 
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I wonder if it's the same one I'm on does his name start with a j
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Did you try the tincture and if so, what did you think? I've used Specious Specialist tincture extensively, to the point plain leaf wasn't effective. It is very very good and very expensive.  Just be careful. 
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No I have not tried it yet but would love to

 
Hey guys, just got my first order of Kratom in from a trusted supplier on another forum i.l.k. I burned 2.5 g tonight of Malaysian Red Horn and the scent was very sedating yet uplifting. I liked it a lot! Still have Green Bali to try and hopefully that is more energizing so I can try both sides of the spectrum. I purchased two 50g samples, and was shorted 14g on one. When I contacted about it he called me within 15 minutes at 9 pm very apologetic to make it right with either immediate delivery of shorted herb or future purchase compensation. Very genuine and seems like great quality (first timer).

 
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