Kratom Discussion

Hi all, I'm new to Kratom. I have a very high opiate tolerance and I'm looking for something to take the edge off in between scripts. I went to a local head shop and purchased 15 grams of Maeng Da powder. This is what the gentlemen at the shop recommended for opiate withdrawals. The brand is Royal Kratom and it came in a vacuum sealed package. It has quite a potent smell (almost like tea) and taste.

Given my high tolerance to opiates, I was wondering if anyone had any dosing recommendations. I am also taking xanax and klonipin for anxiety and ambien for sleep. Oh, and I also take stimulant medicatino for ADHD.

Any help would be much appreciated. Honestly, I thought I'd been around the block a few times, but I had never heard of Kratom until I joined this board. I'm certainly glad it's legal and widely available in my state. I'm cautiously optimistic.

 
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Cheating on me, mr. C? Lol! Sorry i have just taken a forbidden (to me) benzo. My posting should be interesting today.

 
Mr. Crowley said:
Hi all, I'm new to Kratom. I have a very high opiate tolerance and I'm looking for something to take the edge off in between scripts. I went to a local head shop and purchased 15 grams of Maeng Da powder. This is what the gentlemen at the shop recommended for opiate withdrawals. The brand is Royal Kratom and it came in a vacuum sealed package. It has quite a potent smell (almost like tea) and taste.

Given my high tolerance to opiates, I was wondering if anyone had any dosing recommendations. I am also taking xanax and klonipin for anxiety and ambien for sleep. Oh, and I also take stimulant medicatino for ADHD.

Any help would be much appreciated. Honestly, I thought I'd been around the block a few times, but I had never heard of Kratom until I joined this board. I'm certainly glad it's legal and widely available in my state. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Hey Mr C! Good to see you over here in kratom land! Smoke shop kratom is terrible and very overpriced. I've never had a potent strain from a smoke shop. But I have used it in a pinch when I'm desperate. Find a vendor and order some reds. Dayak's big red and super big red are really popular with users that want to prevent opie w/d. They are also the most effective for pain relief. All the reds are actually good for that but those two are the strongest. They are quite a bit more pricey than the other reds so it just depends on what you're willing to spend. I'm not sure if you have facebook but Dayak has a group and they are so helpful to people just getting started. But of course we're here to help you in any way we can!


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Hey Mr C! Good to see you over here in kratom land! Smoke shop kratom is terrible and very overpriced. I've never had a potent strain from a smoke shop. But I have used it in a pinch when I'm desperate. Find a vendor and order some reds. Dayak's big red and super big red are really popular with users that want to prevent opie w/d. They are also the most effective for pain relief. All the reds are actually good for that but those two are the strongest. They are quite a bit more pricey than the other reds so it just depends on what you're willing to spend. I'm not sure if you have facebook but Dayak has a group and they are so helpful to people just getting started. But of course we're here to help you in any way we can!

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I don't do Facebook, is there a website?

 
Dayak has 15% off for new customers and 20% off on Tuesdays. They're clear across the US from me and I almost always get in two days. If you order at least $40 in product, it's free 2 day priority shipping.


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TealGreen said:
Dayak has 15% off for new customers and 20% off on Tuesdays. They're clear across the US from me and I almost always get in two days. If you order at least $40 in product, it's free 2 day priority shipping. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Hey Teal, do you find their kratom less constipating at all? Just hoping its not. But either way I'm excited to give them a shot since it sounds like they have such excellent equally Kratom.
 
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Hey Teal, do you find their kratom less constipating at all? Just hoping its not. But either way I'm excited to give them a shot since it sounds like they have such excellent equally Kratom.
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Unfortunately no. 😟 It ALL does that to me. Roger recommended colace and Metamucil, she said that helps her a lot. I need to go buy some.

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Okay sounds good. I think my poor butt is beyond the colace now. But Ima try that metameucil.

 
pokeytoe said:
Okay sounds good. I think my poor butt is beyond the colace now. But Ima try that metameucil.
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Worst side effect of kratom no doubt. Try combing the two- Colace and Metamucil. The first softens and the second gets things moving. Sorry to be so blunt but it is what it is....

 
Wow, now I really have a reason to be interested in kratom.  Do all types have constipation as a side effect?  I actually need that as I suffer from the opposite due to two surgeries removing bowel sections.  Can't use over the counter meds for that as that works for normal bowels only.  Of course opies help some but don't want to take that every day either... this sounds hopeful.

 
Does anyone know whether Kratom has any significant drug interactions. Especially with SSRI's like Lexapro?

Thanks!

 
Suzie said:
Wow, now I really have a reason to be interested in kratom. Do all types have constipation as a side effect? I actually need that as I suffer from the opposite due to two surgeries removing bowel sections. Can't use over the counter meds for that as that works for normal bowels only. Of course opies help some but don't want to take that every day either... this sounds hopeful.
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It's weird but there are some people who it actually helps to be more regular. But it seems like the majority get the constipation. It would be worth a try.

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TealGreen said:
It's weird but there are some people who it actually helps to be more regular. But it seems like the majority get the constipation. It would be worth a try.

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I also read that it's supposed to have certain sexual benefits, unlike opiates. I'll have to report back.

 
Mr. Crowley said:
I also read that it's supposed to have certain sexual benefits, unlike opiates. I'll have to report back.
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Ha so I've heard! I'm so jelly of the ones it affects that way. Definitely report back. 😏

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mrcoolguy said:
this stuff is so disgusting, in my state people dont admit there addicted to kratom but i see them all day in the kava shopps spending 40-60$ on those drinks, ridiculous ,

kratom addiction is like opiate addiction
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Did anyone say Kratom doesn't cause some dependence? Lol that's well documented. What's your point? Do people in your state admit they are addicted to benzo's or MJ? Or only the cool kids?
Pun intended.
 
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mrcoolguy said:
this stuff is so disgusting, in my state people dont admit there addicted to kratom but i see them all day in the kava shopps spending 40-60$ on those drinks, ridiculous ,

kratom addiction is like opiate addiction
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Didn't your mama teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Why are you in this thread anyway? You sure have a lot of hate going on for this stuff. Just don't take it and worry about yourself.

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